This is going to sound really lame, but here me out. I am not suggesting this is a system that will return consistent profits over time or anythingand it really isnt even a system. But if used on the odd occasion i.e. once every week or two - you would be surprised. Its something me old man does when we go down for a frothy at the pub, and had been doing it for a year and he is showing a pretty hefty profit. Harness and dogs (he does it with horses but minimal success) he just backs all the long odds runners in the race, and leaves the top 3 or 4 (harness), 2 or 3 (dogs) in the betting alone. As a once in a while, fun thing to do he rarely loses ie. would only lose 1 in 5 times. The other thing is once you win thats it. I think it works because in dogs and harness unlike horses there are a lot more false favourites as well as faves which are way under the odds. Sometimes in harness for example, there will be like a 1.10 pop and the rest of the field is 12's or over and it continually surprises me how many times these shorties get beaten. I have never been game to try it, because logically it shouldnt work, but i can;t argue since 9 times out of 10 he walks out with a lot more dough than me.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Yes it doesnt matter if there is a spell in it. Just as long as its 'last start' was a win, could go 3s1s but it would still be a selection.

Yes this system is just for $2 wins to see what can eventuate but what has been pointed out is quite right.

But it did show me that a few winners were able to back up after a run of good results. That factor was important, but its not at all welcoming when it comes to the returns.

Ill have a different sort of selections for you tonight for tommorow's races as ive been testing a system and its doing quite well despite a lapse in results last night.

Anyways thanks for your advice : - )

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Well City Lane finished 2nd and paid $1.60 today.

At Ballarat we have R6) #12 and thats it.

(now on something totally un-related to this system).

Ima gonna try my hand at:

Ballarat Race 3) #8* - 6- 7
Race 4) #6*
Race 5) #11* - 2 - 7- 4
Race 6) #(3,8)
Race 7) #11* - 6
Race 8) #5*

*=selection. With the other numbers as possibilities for multiples etc.

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Why aren't Ballarat R3 #8; R7 #10; and R8 #8 selections?


I counted Moonee Valley R4 #3 as a selection today (lowest price of 3 qualifiers)also. It paid $8.50/$2.10. The other four at that venue missed.

Too shay, i did ineed miss Ballarat R3 #8 and R7 #10

Ahh now i see where you are coming from with Mooney Valley results wise and Ballarat R8 #8 results. I have actually been exluding those who have won twice in a row in my selections. Might have to see who they go.

But then $8.50 isn't too bad if the other four lost. Thats still a profit.

And already tonight:

Race 2) #2 paid $1.50, $1.10
Race 3) #8 paid $1,40, $1.10

So thats going down well.

Ill try including those who have won twice in a row and see what eventuates.


(Now for the other system)
Race 3) #8 paid $1.40, $1.10
Race 4) #6 unplaced
Race 5) #11 unplaced, 4th selection won at $15.50

and still some to go.

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A nice trifecta for race 6 tonight at Ballarat. BOX 3,8,12

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Almost, ill guess ill just have to wave my flag and be content with the $4.70 exacta. Just couldn't split those two in the ratings.

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Now i am going to start including (1.1) results into the system now.

This is how it looks:

DATE Where Horse Place Returns
26/05/2005 Ouyen4 Loves To Rock 1st $1.40 $1.04
26/05/2005 Cranbourne4 Torridon unplaced
26/05/2005 Cranbourne5 Before My Eyes 2nd $1.20
28/05/2005 Ballarat1 Joys Boy 1st $17.70 $4.10
28/05/2005 Ballarat3 Broke As Usual 2nd $1.60
28/05/2005 Globe Derby1 Boz Boy unplaced
28/05/2005 Globe Derby2 Breaking News unplaced
28/05/2005 Globe Derby4 No King 1st $1.90 $1.30
28/05/2005 Globe Derby5 Ultimate Legacy 2nd $2.00
28/05/2005 Globe Derby7 Endeared 1st $1.60 $1.04
28/05/2005 Globe Derby9 Fibber Magee 1st $1.50 $1.04
28/05/2005 Newcastle4 Ducks A Flyin unplaced
28/05/2005 Newcastle6 Abercrombie Dexter 1st $1.50 $2.10
28/05/2005 Newcastle8 Catch A Stature 2nd $2.50
28/05/2005 Albion Park1 James Shannon unplaced
28/05/2005 Albion Park5 Sir Florian unplaced
28/05/2005 Albion Park6 Divine Intavention unplaced
28/05/2005 Albion Park7 Pegasus Park unplaced
28/05/2005 Albion Park10 Padres Pride 1st $2.80 $1.30
2/06/2005 Maryborough1 Thepowerofhealing 1st $1.20 $1.10
2/06/2005 Mildure5 Jezal Theory 1st $2.80 $1.80
2/06/2005 Mildura8 Karamea Dreamin 2nd $1.10
3/06/2005 Mooney Valley1 Vernett unplaced
3/06/2005 Mooney Valley5 Touch Of Pearl unplaced
3/06/2005 Mooney Valley7 George Sloy unplaced
3/06/2005 Charlton5 Saint Armbro unplaced
3/06/2005 Charlton7 Tealsby Karita 1st $4.80 $1.70
3/06/2005 Harold Park3 Nelson Street unplaced
3/06/2005 Harold Park8 Macrossan 1st $28.20 $2.80
4/06/2005 Geelong5 Ostentacious 3rd $9.50
4/06/2005 Geelong6 Gringotts unplaced
4/06/2005 Newcastle3 Forest Vic 1st $3.80 $1.20
4/06/2005 Newcastle9 Welcome Holme 2nd $1.04
4/06/2005 Globe Derby1 Tonto Toronto unplaced
4/06/2005 Golbe Derby3 Flash Fortune unplaced
4/06/2005 Globe Derby5 Officers Creek 1st $2.60 $1.50
4/06/2005 Globe Derby7 Another Chariot 1st $9.80 $3.10
4/06/2005 Globe Derby9 Kookla unplaced
4/06/2005 Albion park8 Gold Chance unplaced
4/06/2005 Albion Park11 Fakes Tycoon unplaced
5/06/2005 Kilmore7 Falcon Watch unplaced
6/06/2005 Shep1 Suelaurian 1st $2.40 $1.20
6/06/2005 Shep3 Mesmerizing 3rd $1.20
6/06/2005 Shep4 Glasscutters Atom unplaced
7/06/2005 Nyah8 Sunbeam 1st $1.90 $1.04
8/08/2005 Hamilton5 Tamrod Claudette unplaced
8/08/2005 Hamilton7 Unreachable unplaced
8/08/2005 Cranbourne1 Wantalainga Beejay 2nd $1.30
8/08/2005 Cranbourne2 City Lane 2nd $1.10
8/08/2005 Cranbourne4 Hei Command 1st $1.60 $1.20
9/06/2005 Maryborough4 Ebilix unplaced
9/06/2005 Maryborough8 Little Partner unplaced
9/06/2005 Dubbo3 Titian Sophie Two unplaced
9/06/2005 Dubbo6 Karloo Mick 1st $1.20 $1.10
9/06/2005 Gold Coast5 Sailors Gossip 1st $4.80 $2.00
9/06/2005 Penrith3 Calornia unplaced
9/06/2005 Penrith6 Vixen Hanover 1st $1.50 $1.04
9/06/2005 Penrith8 Flying Nemo 1st $2.20 $1.50
10/06/2005 Cobram2 Vickishalo 1st $5.40 $2.20
10/06/2005 Cobram5 Netherby Prince unplaced
10/06/2005 Cobram6 Twenty Per Cent unplaced
10/06/2005 Mooney Valley3 Split Image 1st $1.60 $1.10
10/06/2005 Harold Park4 Spirit of Vancelot unplaced
10/06/2005 Harold Park8 Save The Lastdance unplaced
11/06/2005 Bendigo2 Looks Like Lani 3rd $2.80
11/06/2005 Bendigo3 Tennotrump 1st $1.20 $1.20
11/06/2005 Bendigo Show Girl Lombo 3rd $2.90
11/06/2005 Bendigo5 Dux unplaced
11/06/2005 Bendgo6 Jaccka Hoppy 2nd $1.50
11/06/2005 Bendigo9 Champagnesheffiel 3rd $1.30
11/06/2005 Newcastle1 Catch A Stature 1st $4.00 $2.00
11/06/2005 Newcastle6 Estella Road unplaced
11/06/2005 Newcastle8 Cujo Crusher 3rd $1.50
11/06/2005 Globe Derby1 Givitaburl Lombo 2nd $2.10
11/06/2005 Globe Derby4 Tomfoolery unplaced
11/06/2005 Globe Derby6 Avidale unplaced
11/06/2005 Albion park1 Nets Boy unplaced
11/06/2005 Albion Park4 Exuberant Popular unplaced
11/06/2005 Albion Park6 Curry an Rice unplaced
11/06/2005 Albion park8 Bertils Light unplaced
19/09/2005 Mildura2 Ultimate Mark 1st $1.20 $1.04
19/09/2005 Mildura4 Glitznglamma Lombo 3rd $1.30
18/09/2005 Bendigo3 Running Pinevale 2nd $1.30
18/09/2005 Bendigo4 Regal Dignity 3rd $1.20
18/09/2005 Bendigo5 Rasputin Lombo 1st $5.40 $1.70
20/09/2005 Terang3 Pocket Fantasy 2nd $1.04
22/09/2005 Mooney Valley2 City Lane 2nd $1.70
22/09/2005 Mooney Valley3 Kurt Rustler 2nd $1.04
22/09/2005 Mooney valley4 Miss Kellie 1st $10.50 $3.50
22/09/2005 Mooney Valley8 Lislight 2nd $1.20
22/09/2005 Ballarat2 Jilliby Jordan 1st $1.50 $1.10
22/09/2005 Ballarat3 Heza Hard Drive 1st $1.40 $1.10
22/09/2005 Ballarat6 Jiliby Lightning unplaced
22/09/2005 Ballarat7 Manwarra Achiever unplaced
22/09/2005 Ballarat8 Princess Yum Yum unplaced


RACES: 95
WINS: 30
AVE WINNER: $4.30

Based on $1 bets:
Profit: $ 34.40 (so if you were betting $25 win a profit of $860 so far)

Its a gain of 27% thus far.

However almost 50% of the winnings come from 3 races alone, which Chromo Prince point out, is not good for the long term.

Tweaking is probably necessary but that might come in due time.

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Today's races:

Charlton:
R3) #6
R4) #9
R6) #10
R7) #8

Harold Park
R1) #5
R2) #3
R3) #5
R4) #4
R8) #7

Kilmore:
R5) #7/12
R6) #6
R7) #6

A host of favourites today but some of them might go out to a little better odds.

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