I would look at the back/lay ratio as you may be paying overs for your lays which could be skewing your figures a bit. Alternatively have a look at this as being a potential backing system if laying is proving to be a loser.

Either way the price will be a big factor, pay overs for lays and you will lose or buy unders for your back bets and you will also lose.

"It just really gives me the ********s when everything goes hunky dory when testing but as soon as the money goes on the ********ing thing blows up in my face FFS."

Here is a method that can work well with that situation.
I have won a lot of good money using my mates so called Lay selections , you know the ones, pick the 35/1 pig to fall over & watch it win.

I have a theory that says the Lay market is more accurate than the Back market

RULES
Have the Bot make a Lay bet selection with real money say 5.00 at 60 secs till jump.

Now make manual Back bet on the same runner for 7.00 (40% more than Lay bet)

We are only risking $2.00 in real terms.

You will be amazed how many get up to win at good prices, when you least expect them to because their form looks horrible.
Ask your mates which of the top 3 Favs they think will fall over and watch them get up to win.

Its important that actual money is placed on the Lay bet because its results are always different to Sim mode results.
That is an anomaly observed by all who use Bots.

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Cheers.

Not sure how that one works on the dogs Bhagwan. Isn't that for an in-play type of scenario otherwise how do you get both sides matched?

Update Day 4

Aussie Dogs Laying 3rd Favourite System

Full Market Name Selection Amount Price Loss Recovery Amount Profit And Loss Level 60c
AUS / Cran (AUS) 11th April / 16:22 R2 311m Gr5 6. Docs Darlin 0.3 6.08 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / Bath (AUS) 11th Apr / 16:50 R3 520m Gr5 1. Norris Back 0.3 6 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / Cran (AUS) 11th April / 17:02 R4 699m Gr5 6. Rusty Acid 0.3 6.6 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / Cran (AUS) 11th April / 17:22 R5 520m Gr5 7. Lektra Gold 0.3 7.4 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / Cran (AUS) 11th April / 18:18 R8 520m Gr4/5 8. Special Colour 0.3 5.8 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 11th Apr / 18:41 R1 515m Final 4. Dyna Impy 0.3 5.6 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 11th Apr / 18:57 R2 515m Gr6 3. Pragmatic 0.3 5 0 -1.2 -1.2
AUS / APrk (AUS) 11th Apr / 19:06 R2 520m Mdn 5. Large Diamond 0.55 5.7 0.25 0.55 0.6
AUS / Ball (AUS) 11th Apr / 19:28 R2 450m Gr5 5. Lonely Delight 0.55 5.7 0.25 0.55 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 11th Apr / 19:54 R5 600m Gr5 1. Arnalda Bale 0.53 7 0.23 0.53 0.6
AUS / Laun (AUS) 11th April / 19:58 R2 278m Juv 8. Lucky Norris 0.55 5.8 0.25 0.55 0.6
AUS / APrk (AUS) 11th Apr / 20:02 R5 520m Gr5 1. Secret Web 0.53 5.5 0.23 0.53 0.6
AUS / Ball (AUS) 11th Apr / 20:06 R4 550m Gr5 2. Mission Complete 0.3 5.9 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 11th Apr / 20:16 R6 515m Final 1. Jay Jays Dream 0.3 6 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / APrk (AUS) 11th Apr / 20:22 R6 520m Gr4/5 5. Big Thursday 0.3 5 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / Laun (AUS) 11th April / 20:41 R4 515m Mdn 3. Claires Brat 0.3 4.5 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / Ball (AUS) 11th Apr / 20:47 R6 650m Gr4/5 8. Lasting Effect 0.3 7 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 11th Apr / 20:54 R8 515m Gr3/4 3. Mr Winkler 0.3 5.7 0 -1.41 -2.82
AUS / Laun (AUS) 11th April / 20:58 R5 515m Gr4 3. Chill Pill 0.3 6.4 0 0.3 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 11th Apr / 21:15 R9 515m Gr6 5. Libbys Passion 0.59 5.3 0.29 0.59 0.6
AUS / APrk (AUS) 11th Apr / 21:22 R9 520m Gr5 1. Special Approach 0.54 6.4 0.24 0.54 0.6
AUS / Bull (AUS) 11th April / 21:30 R8 515m Gr4/5 3. Catch Me Nannu 0.57 6 0.27 0.57 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 11th Apr / 21:37 R10 515m Gr5 6. Shez Romantic 0.55 6.6 0.25 -3.08 -3.36
AUS / APrk (AUS) 11th Apr / 21:43 R10 520m Gr5 4. Chocolate Sky 0.54 6.8 0.24 0.54 0.6
AUS / Ball (AUS) 11th Apr / 21:46 R9 450m Gr5 3. Houdini 0.56 6.4 0.26 0.56 0.6
AUS / Bull (AUS) 11th April / 21:50 R9 472m Gr3/4 1. Flying Airlie 0.41 6.8 0.11 0.41 0.6
AUS / Laun (AUS) 11th April / 22:15 R9 515m Gr4 1. Excess Luggage 0.65 5.2 0.35 0.65 0.6
AUS / Ball (AUS) 11th Apr / 22:24 R11 450m Gr5 6. Culcairn 0.61 5.7 0.31 0.61 0.6

(Above is my 30c stakes)

Tonight
Level (60c) Stakes +$7.62 (less commission)
Bot +$10.18
Betfair +$8.94

Start Bank $100
Level (60c) Stakes Running Total $104.34 (less commission)
Bot Running Total $102.64
Betfair Running Total $100.42

Totals
53 Bets
44 Winners
83% S/R
0% P/LOT (For BF Total)

Update Day 5

Aussie Dogs Laying 3rd Favourite System

Full Market Name Selection Amount Price Loss Recovery Amount Profit And Loss Level 60c
AUS / Ipsw (AUS) 12th Apr / 08:08 R8 431m Final 2. Spring Image 0.15 6.8 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / Ipsw (AUS) 12th Apr / 08:27 R9 431m Gr4/5 2. Desire Tewin 0.15 6.6 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / Lism (AUS) 12th Apr / 08:43 R1 520m Mdn 6. Rather Suave 0.15 4.9 0 -0.59 -2.34
AUS / Gosf (AUS) 12th April / 08:57 R1 515m Mdn 6. Number Krunch 0.28 5.9 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / Town (AUS) 12th Apr / 09:35 R2 380m Heat 6. Asteral Dancer 0.28 5.7 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / Gosf (AUS) 12th April / 10:20 R5 515m Gr4/5 3. All Debree 0.28 6.4 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / Gosf (AUS) 12th April / 10:39 R6 515m Final 3. Lauries Fantasy 0.28 7 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / Lism (AUS) 12th Apr / 10:42 R7 520m Final 8. Aretha Trick 0.23 5.7 0.08 -1.08 -2.82
AUS / Gosf (AUS) 12th April / 10:57 R7 600m Gr4/5 1. Miss Keys 0.23 5.1 0.08 0.23 0.6
AUS / Gosf (AUS) 12th April / 11:20 R8 515m FFA 4. Super Laurie 0.38 6.6 0.23 0.38 0.6
AUS / Wgul (AUS) 12th Apr / 11:27 R9 400m FFA 1. Governator 0.38 5.6 0.23 0.38 0.6
AUS / Town (AUS) 12th Apr / 11:35 R8 380m Gr4 7. Miss Eminem 0.38 6 0.23 0.38 0.6
AUS / Gosf (AUS) 12th April / 11:39 R9 400m Gr5 1. Lucy Elusive 0.38 6.8 0.23 0.38 0.6
AUS / Lism (AUS) 12th Apr / 11:42 R10 520m Gr5 9. Sartorial Cloud 0.31 6.8 0.16 0.31 0.6
AUS / Town (AUS) 12th Apr / 11:53 R9 380m Heat 8. Saltwater Chaos 0.15 6.2 0 0.15 0.6

(Above is my reduced 15c stakes)

Tonight
Level (60c) Stakes +$2.64 (less commission)
Bot +$7.84
Betfair +$7.12

Start Bank $100
Level (60c) Stakes Running Total $106.98 (less commission)
Bot Running Total $110.48
Betfair Running Total $107.54

Totals
68 Bets
57 Winners
83.8% S/R
11% POT (For BF Total)

Update Day 6

Aussie Dogs Laying 3rd Favourite System

Full Market Name Selection Amount Price Loss Recovery Amount Profit And Loss Level 60c
AUS / Warr (AUS) 13th Apr / 07:59 R8 450m Gr3/4 1. Credit Cruncher 0.15 4.3 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / APrk (AUS) 13th Apr / 08:13 R9 395m Gr4 1. Redex 0.15 5.4 0 -0.66 -2.64
AUS / Ball (AUS) 13th Apr / 09:38 R3 450m Mdn 8. Dyna Benita 0.29 6.8 0.14 0.29 0.6
AUS / Dapt (AUS) 13th Apr / 10:06 R4 297m Gr5 6. Evies Big Chill 0.29 7 0.14 0.29 0.6
AUS / Ball (AUS) 13th Apr / 10:18 R5 450m Gr5 4. Dyna Diego 0.29 7 0.14 0.29 0.6
AUS / Dapt (AUS) 13th Apr / 10:26 R5 600m FFA 6. Proven Aurora 0.29 5.3 0.14 0.29 0.6
AUS / Ipsw (AUS) 13th Apr / 10:35 R6 520m Semi 3. Punisher 0.26 6.4 0.11 0.26 0.6
AUS / Dapt (AUS) 13th Apr / 10:46 R6 520m Gr4/5 1. Megastar Spargo 0.15 6.4 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / Dapt (AUS) 13th Apr / 11:06 R7 297m Gr4/5 5. Pigeon Flyer 0.15 5.8 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / Ipsw (AUS) 13th Apr / 11:14 R8 520m Gr4/5 1. Co Star 0.15 4.9 0 -0.59 -2.34
AUS / Dapt (AUS) 13th Apr / 11:27 R8 520m Gr5 4. Flying Niki 0.28 7 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / Ball (AUS) 13th Apr / 11:38 R9 450m Gr5 5. Nikitas Maxi 0.28 6.6 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / Dapt (AUS) 13th Apr / 11:50 R9 297m Gr5 10. Highly Spirited 0.28 7 0.13 -1.68 -3.6
AUS / Ipsw (AUS) 13th Apr / 11:54 R10 431m Gr4/5 7. Black Mary 0.28 7 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / Ball (AUS) 13th Apr / 12:14 R11 450m Gr5 1. Pedros Shout 0.28 6.6 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / Cann (AUS) 13th April / 12:22 R7 530m Gr5 3. Till Buster 0.22 7 0.07 -1.32 -3.6

(Above is my reduced 15c stakes)

Tonight
Level (60c) Stakes -$4.98 (less commission)
Bot -$5.04
Betfair -$5.52

Start Bank $100
Level (60c) Stakes Running Total $102 (less commission)
Bot Running Total $105.44
Betfair Running Total $102.02

Totals
84 Bets
69 Winners
82.1% S/R
2% POT (For BF Total)

Update Day 7

That's more like it. I'm letting the bot run on the profit side but still have the -$9 stop loss (for 60c stakes)

Aussie Dogs Laying 3rd Favourite System

Full Market Name Selection Amount Price Loss Recovery Amount Profit And Loss Level 60c
AUS / Mait (AUS) 14th Apr / 08:05 R7 450m Gr5 4. Warwick Avenue 0.15 5 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / Bend (AUS) 14th Apr / 08:15 R8 430m Heat 8. Tonto John 0.15 3.95 0 -0.44 -1.77
AUS / Bend (AUS) 14th Apr / 08:30 R9 430m Heat 8. Miss Tastic 0.25 6.8 0.1 0.25 0.6
AUS / APrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 08:42 R1 520m Nvce 8. Surfin Steffi 0.25 4.9 0.1 0.25 0.6
AUS / APrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 09:07 R2 520m Heat 7. On The Brink 0.25 4.9 0.1 0.25 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 14th Apr / 09:13 R1 515m Gr5 3. Gotham Bale 0.25 6.6 0.1 0.25 0.6
AUS / Hoba (AUS) 14th Apr / 09:20 R1 461m Heat 6. Stylish Claud 0.2 5.9 0.05 0.2 0.6
AUS / SPrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 09:26 R2 595m Gr5 1. Good Investment 0.15 6.8 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / Dapt (AUS) 14th Apr / 09:29 R1 520m Heat 7. Locomotion Kylie 0.15 6.8 0 -0.87 -3.48
AUS / APrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 09:42 R4 600m Heat 1. Stack em Flat 0.31 6.8 0.16 0.31 0.6
AUS / SPrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 10:08 R4 515m Gr5 3. Hafren Bale 0.33 5.7 0.18 0.33 0.6
AUS / SPrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 10:52 R6 515m FFA 8. Bolero Bale 0.33 5.9 0.18 0.33 0.6
AUS / Dapt (AUS) 14th Apr / 10:55 R5 520m Gr4/5 7. Callamac Ace 0.31 7 0.16 0.31 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 14th Apr / 10:58 R6 515m Heat 6. Brahma Boy 0.33 5 0.18 -1.32 -2.4
AUS / APrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 11:08 R8 520m FFA 7. Franklin Style 0.33 6 0.18 0.33 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 14th Apr / 11:22 R7 515m Heat 6. Grevillea Bale 0.31 7 0.16 0.31 0.6
AUS / APrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 11:28 R9 520m Heat 6. Just A Tad 0.37 5.3 0.22 0.37 0.6
AUS / SPrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 11:35 R8 515m Final 3. Martili Bale 0.31 6.8 0.16 0.31 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 14th Apr / 11:41 R8 731m FFA 3. Cascada Star 0.34 5.8 0.19 0.34 0.6
AUS / Hoba (AUS) 14th Apr / 11:44 R8 461m Heat 3. Pure Port 0.35 5.8 0.2 0.35 0.6
AUS / APrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 11:52 R10 520m Heat 6. Aston Motlop 0.35 5.7 0.2 0.35 0.6
AUS / SPrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 11:55 R9 515m Gr5 7. Chief Bambury 0.31 7 0.16 0.31 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 14th Apr / 12:05 R9 515m Gr5 7. Emily Allen 0.19 7 0.04 0.19 0.6
AUS / SPrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 12:11 R10 515m Gr5 1. Smurfs Senorita 0.15 5 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 14th Apr / 12:22 R10 600m Gr4/5 1. Big Hoser 0.15 7 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / SPrk (AUS) 14th Apr / 12:30 R11 515m Gr5 3. Creative Elusion 0.15 5.2 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / Dapt (AUS) 14th Apr / 12:35 R10 520m Gr5 8. Superb Dos 0.15 6.4 0 0.15 0.6
AUS / AnPk (AUS) 14th Apr / 12:40 R11 515m Gr5 2. Tarot Bale 0.15 7 0 0.15 0.6

(Above is my 15c stakes)

Tonight
Level (60c) Stakes +$7.35 (less commission)
Bot +$15.04
Betfair +$13.56

Start Bank $100
Level (60c) Stakes Running Total $109.35 (less commission)
Bot Running Total $120.48
Betfair Running Total $115.58

Totals
112 Bets
94 Winners
83.9% S/R
13.9% POT (For BF Total)

Update Day 8

Back to the same old. Like a yo-yo at the moment.

I'll keep it up for a few more days as the stats before the trial on here were actually quite good - Currently +42.06 after 15 days. I must say though that I am a bit wary of weekend greyhound betting as I've lost overall on the weekends during the 15 day trial.

Aussie Dogs Laying 3rd Favourite System

Full Market Name Selection Amount Price Loss Recovery Amount Profit And Loss Level 60c
AUS / APrk (AUS) 15th Apr / 08:17 R9 520m Gr4/5 1. Perfect Thrill 0.15 4.9 0 -0.59 -2.34
AUS / Geel (AUS) 15th Apr / 09:00 R1 400m Gr5 3. Allen Lennox 0.28 5.8 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / WPrk (AUS) 15th Apr / 09:17 R3 520m Semi 6. Queen Of Cyprus 0.28 6.2 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / Geel (AUS) 15th Apr / 09:28 R2 460m Gr5 4. Chloes Gem 0.28 5.5 0.13 0.28 0.6
AUS / Geel (AUS) 15th Apr / 11:10 R7 596m FFA 2. Lektra Jay 0.28 6.8 0.13 -1.62 -3.48
AUS / WPrk (AUS) 15th Apr / 11:17 R9 520m Gr4/5 1. November Tribute 0.39 5 0.24 0.39 0.6
AUS / Geel (AUS) 15th Apr / 11:28 R8 460m FFA 6. Enry Walt 0.31 7 0.16 -1.86 -3.6

(Above is my 15c stakes)

Tonight
Level (60c) Stakes -$7.02 (less commission)
Bot -$11.36
Betfair -$11.56

Start Bank $100
Level (60c) Stakes Running Total $102.33 (less commission)
Bot Running Total $108.66
Betfair Running Total $104.02

Totals
119 Bets
98 Winners
82.3% S/R
3.3% POT (For BF Total)

Just a question Ocho, do you lay at the current lay price or do you try and lay at current back price or maybe say 1-2 ticks above back price? I am sure that if you could get a better price your system would show more profitability and 3rd fav on dogs would probably have a highish back/lay ratio does it?

Hi mattio, The bot is set to take the current lay price at 10 seconds before the scheduled start of the race.

I have the max price set to 7.4 and have a back/lay overround of 120%/80% which is quite wide but it is hard to get really close together prices on the Aussie dogs particularly if it's not the fav. The bot I am using for this doesn't have a ratio that I can set for 10% or whatever. I can reduce the overround closer to 100% but I don't think I would get many selections matched.

No worries mate, I know the action on dogs are a bit light which makes it hard to get matched sometimes but I think that I would probably prefer to have less bets matched if I knew they were being matched at a lower price and therefore lower liability.