Hi Barny,

Three filters put this method into profit on UB's tester:
Leader, Pacemaker / Barrier 6+ / Use betfair

Out 97 In 115

Garyf,

I'm assuming your tongue is firmly in cheek with your comments?

If not, I disagree that all ratings systems lead to overbet favourites. If you understand how the ratings are formulated and their various strengths and weaknesses, you can find value in my experience.

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"I buy when other people are selling.”
― J. Paul Getty

Hi TS.

I actually have very firm beliefs the question i ,
Have asked of others, is for people,
To either say yes or no to the post and maybe a reason.
Either you agree or disagree.

Just re-read the first 6 words and last 9 words in my post my opinion,
Is nowhere to be seen just a simple question.

You say no that's great.

I am sure reading how the selection is obtained,
In the prepost system, and other articles on L.G'S
Quaddy thread to T.T.A. where i stand,of course,
That's just me, doesn't make it right or wrong.

Cheers.

Hi Garyf,

I find that the DS ratings work well on certain types of races and the R + S weight ratings on entirely different races in my experience.

So to answer your question completely seriously, I disagree that following free ratings will lead you to the poor house. There are various ways to interpret/filter different typres of ratings and find an edge. For me, it's being selective and betting big mostly on Saturdays with the ratings I use.

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The Schmile

"I buy when other people are selling.”
― J. Paul Getty

Yep couldn't agree more.

Now i have done it, gone and given.
My opinion on my own question.
When i promised myself i wouldn't.

Cheers.
Garyf.

Forgot the icon above the qoute.

Cheers.

I know i have only been working with Skyform for about a week but from what i have seen they may be best if you select the panels that you feel more comfortable with.

When i design ratings i try to set it up so each bit of good form enhances the overall prospect and i am in the belief that if you have enough good form on your side it can over turn the bad, a lot of punters look no further than the 3 form figures or the jockey and maybe a couple other bits of key form.

I think Skyform use completely different techniques for each panel that often don't enhance a runners prospects but can harm it.

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Ha ha Garyf,

What can you do??!!

Not trying to toot your horn too much Garyf, however the best advice I can give to anyone wishing to conquer the ratings world, is to spend a day or two trawling through Garyf's numerous posts on this forum and gather as much info as possible. Not just the pre-post thread but his ratings thoughts over the best part of a few years. The answers you seek are right here on the forum.

*No disrespect to any other forumites, as there are numerous quality posts on the subject of ratings and all things racing. God love ya's all!!

"Racing tragics, UNITE!!!!"

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The Schmile

"I buy when other people are selling.”
― J. Paul Getty

I think you need to be confident with testing your rating price is correct.
I have done lots of testing and now know over 5000 races my $2.00 rating chance wins 50% of the time (give or take 0.5%). This means if I can get $2.20 its worth a bet. (based on a 100% market price)

Often you'll find there is no value in the short prices and most of the time I'm only betting where the favourite is $4.00 but it depends on your rated price. I am yet to isolate the data by venue as I need more data to be confident of my strike rate vs rating price.

I don't see the point of a rating system having a horse priced at $2.00 when you test and find you only win 40% of the time long term.

Since your help in ratings I've been backing 3 horses per race and find I have a 51% strike rate with a $6.57 avg dividend.

garyf posts are a good read!

Barny,

Herald Sun Ratings = Unitab Ratings

Learn something new everyday. So Herald Sun = Unitab = AAP Form Analysier.