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Old 19th October 2005, 10:26 PM
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Smile Who will win the Cox Plate?

Who will win the Cox Plate? What do you think?

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Old 20th October 2005, 10:04 AM
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Very interesting read. About the only place i have read to totally dis regard Makybe Diva. What it says makes sense i just wonder if they took into account that Makybe has been set for this race, The last 2 springs it has been set for the cup and provided its best run of the campaign on Cup day. From this assesment i rate Makybe ahead of Lad of the Manor even after the result last time at Moonee Valley.
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Old 20th October 2005, 10:45 AM
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His argument against MD isn't very convincing. Not enough evidence to say she doesn't like the Valley - only 3 starts with 2 close up 2nds over distances short of her best, early in her campaigns when she had bigger fish to fry much later on.

He says its because of her come-from-behind style of racing. Yet he reckons Xcellent is a genuine chance. X will most likely sit behind MD in the run himself, as its his only racing style. I'm also gambling that X has been set for the Cup & not the Plate, while MD has been set for the Plate & the Cup is merely an afterthought.
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Old 20th October 2005, 03:25 PM
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Havent read the assessments mentioned as yet,but do recall Freedman saying the Cox was the race he was training her for,so would agree with the chief,the Cup is an afterthought depnding how she pulls up after the Cox I guess.

Do recall Moroney saying after Xcellent won the Kelt that he thought the Cox was the ideal race for him,and no mention of the Cup. IMO they will run the quinella,but not sure which will win.Only problem for the "X" factor is the weather forecast for rain.Although his breeding would suggest he should handle it,he failed in the heavy in the Derby.

Didnt think they would start the Diva in the Cup with the big weight,but she did go up 4.5kgs last year and still won,and the money that has gone on would suggest she will run.



Anyone watch Racing Retro last week?Richard Freedman was completely non committal as to whether she will or wont.Interesting.
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Old 20th October 2005, 03:40 PM
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I'm a massive Diva fan, so Diva for me all the way in the Cox Plate. I'll tip her, back her, talk her up and take her for long walks on the beach if needs be.

Diva will win.
Go Diva.
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Old 20th October 2005, 03:55 PM
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LOTM for me...
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Old 20th October 2005, 03:55 PM
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in that case give me a call mad and i will walk with you with the other reign.
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Old 21st October 2005, 10:28 AM
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Hotel Grand for me, if he doesn't get caught wide then he will go mighty close.
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Old 21st October 2005, 04:35 PM
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be a believer in the diva ......it is BUCKETING down here in Melbourne, absolutely BUCKETING i tells ya.
Have something on Sarerra in Race 9 #9, a nice daily double....
then put it all on TREWLY SPECIAL on Sat night at the Meadows dishlickers, in the Topgun race.
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Old 21st October 2005, 05:59 PM
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I reckon Makybe Diva WILL WIN, but ratings for a slow track:

110 LAD OF THE MANOR
100 CONFECTIONER
100 FIELDS OF OMAGH
100 OUTBACK PRINCE
100 MAKYBE DIVA
100 LOTTERIA
95 SUPER KID
95 DESERT WAR
95 XCELLENT


Last week was ready to bet lunchtime sat- no phone line and that went on till wed afternoon , fricken Telstra they are pathetic and missed out on the cup quin and tri.

Rated:

120 DIZELLE
110 RAILINGS / EYE POPPER
100 CARTE DIAMOND
97 MUMMIFY
95 EL SUGUNDO

So I didnt bet and just watched the races , winner after winner after winner coming in. S.O.B
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