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Old 7th December 2011, 08:50 AM
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Hi Aussielongboat,

Your results could be accurate, as Uselessbettor's records started from August. Perhaps the 1's have had a purple patch since then?

I haven't tested the selections myself.

The Schmile


I tried that also and they came up similar to the over all result - i.e. a loss of around 20% loss on turnover

can you run through what you have - because - hey - maybe my data is incorrect.
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Old 7th December 2011, 09:40 AM
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I got...

24%SR
32% POT

We changed field size to 11-14 runners
All the rest the same.

There were 161 selections for the System
There were 38 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.6%
There were $214.57 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $53.57 or a percentage profit/loss of 33.27%

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The Rules used were : lastStart = 1 and donScottRank = 1 and careerRaces >= 11 and runners >= 11 and runners <=14
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Old 7th December 2011, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bhagwan
I got...

24%SR
32% POT

We changed field size to 11-14 runners
All the rest the same.

There were 161 selections for the System
There were 38 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.6%
There were $214.57 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $53.57 or a percentage profit/loss of 33.27%

Test Another System

The Rules used were : lastStart = 1 and donScottRank = 1 and careerRaces >= 11 and runners >= 11 and runners <=14


for clarification:
I wasn't using UB's data - i was using my own independently.
i was just asking if someone else had some independent data to see if they got a similar result to mine.


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Old 7th December 2011, 10:30 AM
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for clarification:
I wasn't using UB's data - i was using my own independently.
i was just asking if someone else had some independent data to see if they got a similar result to mine.


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Hi aussie, what is meant by "Don Scott number 1"?

Rated as the first in what category?
Or by Tab number?

Thanks
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Old 8th December 2011, 03:02 AM
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what is meant by "Don Scott number 1"?

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Hi lomaca

(Don Scott Ranking based on defaults from Racing and Sports Website)
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Old 8th December 2011, 07:10 AM
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Hi lomaca

(Don Scott Ranking based on defaults from Racing and Sports Website)

yep - that's right - the first one in the DS rankings.

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Old 9th December 2011, 04:59 PM
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I tried that also and they came up similar to the over all result - i.e. a loss of around 20% loss on turnover

can you run through what you have - because - hey - maybe my data is incorrect.
I don't know what's happening but I can't even get near enough to the results you guys were getting.

Let's make the rules crystal clear;

First I selected all the races where there were more than 11 runners
after scratching.

Then selected Don Sct top rated. meaning I selected the lowest "DIV" thinking that it's the "top rated"

If this horse was also tab number 1 then I looked if it finished first at its last start and if it did then I looked if it had at least 11 carrier starts.

Complied with all of this, then I looked at the results to see if it won or placed.

For this year I only had 81 qualifiers for 16 winners and 37 for the place (1-2-3).

Win loss -29.9 place loss -18.4


The only way I could get the qualifying numbers close to what you guys got, if I selected ALL the horses with Tab number 1, regardless where it was in the ranking, all other rules complied with of course.

It is disturbing in serious way, I don't mind being wrong but if we can't get these results within a ballpark of each other then what and who's research-results can we trust?

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Old 9th December 2011, 05:18 PM
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Iomaca,

rules were:

The Rules used were : lastStart = 1 and donScottRank = 1 and careerRaces >= 11 and runners >= 11 and runners <=14


No TAB Number 1. Its any TAB number. That should open your results a bit.
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Old 9th December 2011, 05:34 PM
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Iomaca,

rules were:

The Rules used were : lastStart = 1 and donScottRank = 1 and careerRaces >= 11 and runners >= 11 and runners <=14


No TAB Number 1. Its any TAB number. That should open your results a bit.
All the above but any TAB number:

Qual: 646 won 123, placed 270
win loss -87.1 Place loss -86.7

Still far from being a winner, I used NSW dividends, can't be that much of a difference can it?
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Old 9th December 2011, 06:30 PM
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All the above but any TAB number:

Qual: 646 won 123, placed 270
win loss -87.1 Place loss -86.7

Still far from being a winner, I used NSW dividends, can't be that much of a difference can it?

It varies and is hard to say because you might get double the price about a $10 chance but only 5% on a short priced selection. The standard most people use is 15% though to get a rough idea which would have returned 642.74 so almost breakeven on your figures.
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