And I've not seen anywhere, confirmation that any of these ratings services show a profit. Add / Increase the weighting of your own filters and you distort the formulae of the rating service .....

Interesting comeback Barny, but note the words above which I have bolded...

Just because I like numbers and patterns does not in itself imply that I am focussing on the very same numbers and patterns which the vast majority are. You are making an accurate observation regards my preferred point of focus most of the time, but then an assumption regards this being the same point of focus as 'the vast majority'.

A numbers/patterns-focussed individual can still be a contrarian with a vastly different and sometimes opposite view to joe p

Get my drift?

LG

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Yes it does !

When you find the numbers and patterns that are successful, it's already too late !

Barny, are you assuming that when these patterns are picked up by a few, they are always followed...

1. by the vast majority
2. consistently over a period
3. for the rest of their natural lives ???

How many times have we seen in this forum a comment to the effect that winning systems noted on here are often picked up & followed for a bit until they start loosing, then dropped.

Also, comments to the effect that some simple systems devised and/or identified on here long ago (derived from numbers / patterns) are still successful today, but not necessarily out there in the public domain.

LG

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Hi Barny,
If you bet "overs" as the services I mentioned recommend and which every professional punter adheres to then your chances increase dramatically.

As for adding "Filters" to selections Professionally handicapped by a proven long term supplier like I,ve mentioned is just a exercise in futility.

Believe me.The eyes have been picked out of every race they handicap.

If there was anything I could pass on to the newcomer its that Multi betting is the way to go.

Cheers
darky

It's useless LG. Some people see themselves as sitting on top of their own pyramid with the rest of us as their fodder. King Tutt syndrome but he's dead now. Kind of degrading really but not worth giving much attention to if you have an open mind.

I just wonder if one has the same passion for still doing 1,000's of hours of form in 5 years from now or whether one would, by then, be looking for an external source to deliver the 'grunt work' which produces a reliable profit after a few easy tweaks.

LG, to me it appears you are an adventurous explorer and, whilst you've already found prosperous land, there are always new coastlines to map.

Food for thought, rails.

Can't help but think you are on the right track here (forgive me the pun, mate)

LG

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