Hey i might get lazy and just follow your tips :wink:

[ This Message was edited by: maverick1993 on 2004-09-07 21:52 ]

Sort of scared about having only two on the top line. Heck, I'm scared about having just 3!!!

SEPTEMBER 8
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MY SELECTIONS:
Continuing with my experiment from yesterday. Basically using Maverick's betting method of a selection, a saver and a 1/2 unit trifecta with 3 horses to win and 6 horses for 2nd and 3rd. Also a 1/4 unit first 4 on races where Unitab operates them. Remember the first trifecta/first4 method is using pre-post prices and the 2nd method is using at-the-jump prices.

Doom Race 4
10 Picaplace $45 ---
1 We Can't Say That $25 ---
1,3,10 - 1,2,3,4,5,10 ---
1,4,10 - 1,3,4,5,6,10 ---

Doom Race 8
10 Engineer $50 WON $145
1 Lindholme $20 ---
1,2,10 - 1,2,5,7,8,10 WON $23.55 (F4 WON $167.75)
1,8,10 - 1,2,5,7,8,10 WON $23.55 (F4 WON $167.75)

Cant Race 4
2 Aimilee $45 ---
3 Nice Surprise $25 ---
2,3,7 - 1,2,3,7,8,12 ---
2,3,10 - 1,2,3,5,10,12 ---

Cant Race 6
16 Danni Martine $40 WON $152
7 Bella Maddelina $30 ---
7,8,16 - 3,7,8,9,12,16 --- (F4 ---)
7,8,16 - 1,3,7,8,9,16 --- (F4 ---)

Cant Race 7
4 Wind Storm $50 ---
2 Plywood $20 WON $116
1,2,4 - 1,2,3,4,6,10 WON $128.05 (F4 WON $369.55)
2,3,4 - 2,3,4,6,7,10 WON $128.05 (F4 ---)

Werr Race 3
8 Jimmy Casino $30 ---
4 Steelworker $40 ---
3,4,8 - 1,2,3,4,5,8 ---
3,4,8 - 1,2,3,4,5,8 ---

Werr Race 5
6 Red Mile $35 ---
3 Cape Kennedy $35 ---
3,5,6 - 3,5,6,7,9,13 --- (F4 ---)
3,5,6 - 3,5,6,7,9,12 --- (F4 ---)

Stra Race 1
4 Kaseh $40 WON $180
11 Hazy Heights $30 ---
4,5,11 - 2,4,5,9,11,12 ---
4,5,11 - 2,4,5,9,11,12 ---

Stra Race 4
2 Rangatunga $30 WON $120
3 Lady Chorister $40 ---
2,3,4 - 2,3,4,8,9,10 WON $38.85
2,3,4 - 2,3,4,8,9,10 WON $38.85

Stra Race 6
5 Fraar's Salome $50 WON $375
2 American Gothic $20 ---
1,2,5 - 1,2,4,5,6,11 ---
1,2,5 - 1,2,5,6,8,11 ---

Stra Race 7
5 Colin The Brave $30 ---
4 Lothian $40 WON $100
1,4,5 - 1,2,3,4,5,11 WON $176.25 (F4 WON $239.70)
1,4,5 - 1,3,4,5,8,11 WON $176.25 (F4 WON $239.70)

Belm Race 7
5 Maximus Munius $50 WON $130
2 Stockie's Yarn $20 ---
2,5,9 - 2,5,6,9,11,12 WON $10.60
2,5,9 - 2,5,8,9,11,12 WON $10.60

RESULTS SO FAR:

Win & trifecta bets using Unitab divs. (IAS in brackets) Outlay so far $2100
Using method 1: +$325.05 (+$454.60)
Using method 2: +$593.45 (+$710.75)

First 4s using Unitab divs. Outlay so far $450
Using method 1: +$568.65
Using method 2: +$679.25


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SYSTEM SELECTIONS:
I'm still experimenting with these. I've tried to narrow them down today. I've listed all of the selections, but only the ones with the * are the very strongest qualifiers.

UNITAB SYSTEM:
Doom 3-3 Invisible Force
Cant 7-1 Aracena, 7-3 Rock Cafe
Werr 3-4 Steelworker, 6-1 Leica Dollar
Stra 1-11 Hazy Heights*, 4-3 Lady Chorester*, 7-4 Lothian*

TIPSTERS SYSTEM:
Cant 4-2 Aimilee*
Werr 5-3 Cape Kennedy*
Stra 6-2 American Gothic, 7-5 Colin The Brave, 8-12 Lethal Knight
Belm 7-5 Maximus Munius

LONGSHOT SYSTEM:
Doom 4-10 Picaplace*, 8-10 Engineer*
Cant 3-9 Redoute's Belle, 6-16 Danni Martine
Werr 7-10 Romantic Lover
Stra 1-12 Tamdhu, 6-5 Fraar's Salome
Belm 4-6 Intondre


[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-09-08 19:56 ]

Firstly well done Mav. You are doing an excellent job and I hope you not only crack the 20k mark but keep going upwards and onwards.
Secondly, good on you Sportz 4 having a crack. I admire anyone who has a dip and has enough guts to put their selections up for all to see.
In Leica Dollars race today be wary of leaving out Freedmans horse.
I backed Leica dollar last time they raced and if the rides were reversed WAKIL would have won easily. Cheers

I cost myself a win by putting in a roughie in Werribee R3. Normally I go more for the favourites and I would usually have had Future Analysis in my tips. And then I left out Delago Dumper in Doom R4 after having it marked down last night. Damn!

[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-09-08 20:35 ]

Hi Sportznut

Just keep chipping away it will come together. Maverick is certainly showing great signs of success. Both of you combined may come up with a super method. Both have great ideas.

Just something of an idea for you on the trifectas you may want to look at.

If the fav is on top then have the say ($10 or better for win div) for second and rest for third.

If your selection in the three is good odds then put them in normally. This can cut cost and when you hit you can get some really great divs.

I prefer to miss the small stuff and when i hit get a good div.

regards
ubetido

Ubetido,

Thanks. Yeah, this is all just a bit of an experiment at the moment. I'm investigating quite a few different ways of making the most of the selections. Also thinking of maybe using a roving banker trifecta.

My biggest problem is ME. I take too much notice of outside influences like tipsters, late mail, ratings, pre-post betting etc, etc. Very frustrating. I missed a couple of winners today by changing my original selections. Maverick's got it beat because he just picks out his horses and takes no notice of outside influences.

Well done Sportznut..great figures..you owned Strathalbyn today..
great to see the figures comparison with IAS ..if you play it right the fixed prices can be very rewarding.
Great work on the 1St 4's ..i'm still working on a system for those..

Yeah, pretty good results today. 8 winners from 12 races and it really should have been 10 if I had stuck to my original selections. One of these days I'll learn.

SEPTEMBER 9
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MY SELECTIONS:
Again remember, the first horse is the main selection, second horse is the saver and then the first trifecta/first4 selections based on pre-post prices and the 2nd method using at-the-jump prices.

Ipswich Race 2
10 Instant Reward $30 WON $234
3 Natale (L.SCR)
3,5,10 - 2,3,5,9,10,11 --- (3 L.SCR)
2,3,10 - 2,3,8,9,10,11 --- (3 L.SCR)

Ipswich Race 7
4 Dynamic Flame $40 ---
1 Causal $30 WON $96
1,3,4 - 1,3,4,6,8,9 --- (F4 ---)
1,4,9 - 1,3,4,6,8,9 --- (F4 ---)

Ipswich Race 8
4 Kitnat $40 WON $196
2 Coniston Lass $30 ---
2,3,4 - 1,2,3,4,8,12 WON $17.55 (F4 ---)
1,2,4 - 1,2,3,4,8,13 WON $54.50 (F4 $109.95)

Gosford Race 7
6 Sea Search $55 ---
1 Our Jin Mah $15 ---
1,2,6 - 1,2,3,5,6,9 --- (F4 ---)
1,2,6 - 1,2,3,5,6,9 --- (F4 ---)

Ballina Race 4
1 Financial $45 WON $198
2 Key Of Gold $25 ---
1,2,5 - 1,2,5,6,7,10 ---
1,2,5 - 1,2,5,6,7,13 WON $104.55

Ballina Race 6
2 Volcanic Scene $45 ---
4 Umatrick $25 ---
1,2,4 - 1,2,4,5,8,10 --- (F4 ---)
2,4,8 - 1,2,4,8,9,10 WON $310.05 (F4 ---)

Ballina Race 8
5 Dream Walker $45 WON $243
1 Jimmy Walasko $25 ---
1,4,5 - 1,2,3,4,5,6 WON $61.45
1,4,5 - 1,4,5,7,10,11 ---

Ballarat Race 3
1 Lord Hoaks $25 ---
10 Bellevue Lady $45 ---
1,7,10 - 1,2,7,8,10,13 ---
1,7,10 - 1,2,5,7,8,10 ---

Ballarat Race 4
3 Derringer $25 ---
2 The Bighearted $45 ---
2,3,6 - 2,3,5,6,7,8 WON $17.95
2,3,7 - 2,3,5,6,7,8 ---

Kalgoorlie Race 8
10 Profair $35 ---
2 Miss Copycat $35 WON $101.50
2,5,10 - 1,2,5,7,10,11 WON $35.90
2,5,10 - 1,2,5,6,10,11 WON $35.90

RESULTS SO FAR:

Win & trifecta bets using Unitab divs. (IAS in brackets) Outlay so far $3100
Method 1: +$584.40 (+$791.80)
Method 2: +$1224.95 (+$1445.80)

First 4s using Unitab divs. Outlay so far $630
Method 1: +$388.65
Method 2: +$609.20

Not bad results today, but could have been MUCH better as I strongly considered tipping Arena Valedora.

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SYSTEM SELECTIONS
Unitab System:
Ipswich 8-2*, Gosford 3-3, 7-6*, Ballarat 3-1, Kalgoorlie 2-8, 8-10
Tipsters System:
Gosford 3-3, 7-6*, Ballina 1-1, 5-2, 6-2*, 8-5*, Ballarat 1-9, 5-8, 7-11*
Longshot System:
Ipswich 5-10, 5-11, Gosford 7-1*, Ballina 4-1*, 5-6*, Kalgoorlie 7-5, 7-11


[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-09-09 19:49 ]