Mo, these things are pretty important if you are a serious bettor.

Rock, I get why you don't want to be that much. Variance can be a b!tch :wink: Thing is, it just doesn't make a difference longterm.

No pain no gain :wink:

Inefficient market. Plenty of opportunities. Inside information is probally obtained pretty easily. Don't know anything bout the dogs though.

Has anyone ever had inside information on a race being fixed?

I once bet on a fixed soccer match but it was so obvious that it would end fixed. It was Sweden vs Denmark at EURO2004 and the only result that would get both Scandinavian countries through (by eliminating Italy) was a 2-2 draw. 2-2 was offering $6.00 and it was a good bet. Ended 2-2, what do you know. :wink:

(it may not have been fixed, just a major co-incidence)

thefan,
Mr J is spot on!
Greyhounds in Australia provide the best opportunity for profits out of the three race codes because of INEFFICIENT MARKETS.
The favourites are overbet by the public.
Notice also that the selections given out on the radio or internet by the racecaller are always shorter in the market than they should be.
I love betting at Casino on Friday afternoons:
Big pools because lots of blue collar workers at the pub on Friday afternoon with their pay cheques.
Bad dogs which means if you can find the leader at the first turn, you will be on the winner on 85% of races.
Circular grass track suited to front runners. This is why the first sectional is so important. My strike rate at Casino is lower than other tracks BUT when I do back winners there I often get good odds. It is not uncommon to find a dog which has the best sectional that is well boxed that speeds to the front at $10 and wins by 5 lengths. Bad dogs can get pushed over the line at Casino. Lismore used to be the same until they changed the surface to sand.

Knowledge, dont know about horses but i have had inside knowledge[ no pun intended] about a few dog fixes a few years and they were VERY profitable, but on the other side of it, ********ed me off one night at maitland dogs, i had a dog in a race and it had NO hope of winning but was a quick beginner and would have led [box 5,and always led ]walked out of the boxes and was all over the track which was strange for him, found out later that the pro punters had taken 3 dogs in trifectas and collected,a trainer/punter that i knew,that was in the know told me as i was going home that he was GOT AT and i showed him that the dog could not open his eyes,the **************s had sprayed something in its eyes whilst in the kennels.

Rock, what sort of money can you put down on the dogs, and are online odds generally pretty competitive?

Golmember.You were there and you would know better than me.
But that sort of thing is as bad as paedophilia.That no-one was brought to justice is the crime.
Although it might not have really happened as you describe it.
The trifecta bit maybe,but the eyes bit makes me sick.
Not because I am an animal lover,but to think that it may have been covered up by authorities worries me.
I believe it should have been brought to the attention of the stewards,Goldmember.
Of course no-one likes wearing concrete boots!

Moeee, it happened exactly as i said it did, i was leaving to go home, noticed his closed eyes and got started talking to a friend thats when i was told the he was got at and told about the trifecta rigging, apparently he was not the only one,couldnt work it why HIM,as he wasnt much good an a 40/1 shot on the TAB, i expected him to lead and weaken in the straight, when he finished racing i gave him to my parents and they kept him as a pet for years.they still have his sister, she'll be 13 the day after the MELBOURNE CUP.

Don't really want to keep on with this,but 3 dogs in a trifecta leaves 5 dogs that need spraying in the eyes!

Spraying the poor dogs' eyes is just wrong. If you have to fix a race do it the traditional way, over-feed the dogs.