Contentious topic.I keep going back to the "value threads" like a dog to an old bone.I have an excellent "dutching" program,it helps me to make a steady profit.I've managed to link it to the retirement staking plan and it works a treat.

But value it aint.

For example.I intend to have a bet in race 6 at Kynton today.I will use the pre-post odds for this example.

Ideal Ben 33 units @ $3 for a "saver"

The Mookta 41 units @ $5 for a "win"

Record Score 25 units @ $8 for a "win".

The Mookta gets up 105% profit
Record Score gets up 100% profit
Ideal Ben gets up,,,money back...

Dutching on tab's is a dicey business.I place my bets in the last minute and cop whatever variation comes up.Sometimes it's my way, sometimes not.

Over time the above approach is bringing me a steady income stream.If it suits me I sometimes use a place bet as a saver.Just log it into my program as a win bet.

This is very conservative punting,but i'm just an old pussycat.On the other hand the poorhouse is full of bold punters.

when i 1st looked at this type of betting it was after reading threads on here & the idea seemed to be to bet alot to win a little - i recall the figures were $700 to $200. now youd never get me betting that way, one of the best ways to the poorhouse ive heard of.

however i started to test my selections with the aim of returning 100% or better per race (much the same as you appear to be doing syllabus23), & suprise, suprise, there appears to be an angle here.

still working to refine the procress but, as i like to get in & out as quick as possible on any given day, the idea of a couple of bets to acheive a 100% return starts to sound like "value" to me.

Bad luck with Kyneton R6, Syllabus23.

Interesting that the 3 placegetters had barriers 1, 2 & 3 and all were good odds.

You're not a close relative of "The Nose" are you Syllabus? Trying to steer us sheep away from your real selections. :-)

If you narrow the event down to 3 chances,why not put a reasonable price beside each horses name and back them as though you were getting that price.
If in fact one of your trio will not return a profit with the stake you assign,then leave that stake in your wallet and only back the other 2.

Syllabus23,

Not knocking what you are doing, you say you are grinding a small profit, good on you, but to me it doesn't make sense.
You back three nags, 1 for 105% profit, 1 for 100% profit, and 1 for money back.
I back 1 nag with 3 chances, min profit 100%, but usually 140%+ profit and I have actually had a 600% profit.
Have you ever looked at place betting.

Cheers

I reckon it would take one hell of a staking plan to show a profit backing 10yo's resuming from a spell.

At least one would think, not too many candidates!

A lot more than in times gone by Paddy.
Must be some good stuff out there now.
I am the equivalent in human years and am flat out walking to the letterbox.

The "money back" horse clearly means money back on the total bet.

What particularly appealed to me about that race yesterday was the fact that it was "wide open".Anything could win it and anything did.Plenty of exposed form,etc.. shrugs,,,I thought it was worth a punt.

This example just happened to work out at a 100% (or so) profit for a win.Quite frequently this method exceeds that figure considerably.I'm the first person to say that there is nothing new about punting this way.Covering your bet has been around forever.Bookmakers operate this way.Technology has refined the method and made the calculations instantaneous, it also permits you to throw in last minute variables at the click of a button.Including manipulating saver and win bets to gain the best advantage.It also means maintaining a close watch on the market and reacting to it.It works well for me.

I run a place betting column in conjunction with my dutching column.It holds it's own,but over time I do better dutching my bets.Particularly as I run a recovery staking plan (a variation of the retirement plan) in conjunction with it.As I've said before.Each to his own. Good luck,, good punting..