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Old 23rd December 2007, 05:41 PM
Chrome Prince Chrome Prince is offline
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Oh dear, you don't know if it loses or if it wins, oh dear me, it's going to be a long trek.
I'm on Betfair every day, please take my money, I can't wait.

Nobody wants anyone's selections for free, but posters come on with all these wild claims and offer absolutley no substance and completely flawed mathematics and logic.
Casinos have table limits because of possible cheating and liability, they do not have table limits because you can beat the odds.
I went above table limits at Crown and they moved me to a higher stakes table, then I went above that limit and they moved me to the Mahogany Room, they were not afraid that I would beat the odds, they were afraid I was cheating. so much so I had two pit bosses distracting me and overseeing every bet.

If you feel you can beat the maths and beat every other punter over 200 years of bookmaking, then good luck, you'll need it

This is not the same as Kenchar, he place bet horses based on market movements and stopped at a winner, an entirely different logic to martingale chasing losses on losing methods.
Psychology came into play with Kenchar's method and he did not chase losses.
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Old 23rd December 2007, 05:52 PM
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Regarding Kenchar, his method still works today and I use it for about one or two place bets a day, it's been working for more than two years.
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Old 23rd December 2007, 05:55 PM
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Oh dear, you don't know if it loses or if it wins, oh dear me, it's going to be a long trek....

lol rofl. "Does it run at a profit? Does it run at a loss? I DON'T KNOW. Why? Because even 10,000 bets prove nothing. You might be 1% down over 10,000 but 1% up after 10 million. Get my drift?" Obviously you did NOT get my drift. People come and claim a profit or loss based on 100 or 200 selections or whatever. It proves nothing. You cannot claim a long term profit based on such a small sample. Even 10,000 bets proves nothing. You might be 2% down over 10,000 but 2% up after 10 million. SURELY you must get my drift? If not I give up teaching you.
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Old 23rd December 2007, 05:58 PM
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10,000 winning bets proves nothing?

Sherpas will help you on your journey.

Further it has nothing to do with how many bets you have, it has to do with the percentage of winners making up the profit or loss.

You could have 900 bets and one winner at 1000/1

Or you could have 500 bets and 300 winners at evens

What are the odds the first one will make money longterrm, what are the odds the second one will.
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Old 23rd December 2007, 07:27 PM
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lol rofl. "Does it run at a profit? Does it run at a loss? I DON'T KNOW. Why? Because even 10,000 bets prove nothing. You might be 1% down over 10,000 but 1% up after 10 million. Get my drift?"


Hi!
I don't usually buy into this sort of thing, because I don't offer tips myself, BUT I am not selling anything either!
BUT, What you are saying about stats. "Because even 10,000 bets prove nothing!", is just garbage, if you actually believe it yourself then go away, you are a fool and wasting everyones time!
I had less then 3000 (you can even use a lot less than this) bets behind the method that turned out to be profitable, even back tested to 1998, before I dared to turn semi pro. and I had never looked back and it still works.
Statistics don't lie, People DO! Give me reliable statistical data and it will prove only one thing, the likely outcome. Use dodgey data and you can prove anything, but to say 10000 records prove nothing is stupid if not downright deceitful

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Old 23rd December 2007, 07:30 PM
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Hello all, I wonder how many of you have dreamed of a betting system that is like being given gold for free. Well, I have it. I get fixed odds and I always finish in front. Since I started using this system, one of many I have, I've finished in front every time I have used it. Every time I hit a winner I'm a winner. They might be able to stop you at roulette with things like table limits and even banning you, but they can't stop me betting on a horse until I hit a winner and finishing in front every time I get a winner.
Have you got any figures, one bet 100 bets, what % return do you get?
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Old 23rd December 2007, 08:00 PM
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.... but to say 10000 records prove nothing is stupid if not downright deceitful

WHY? 10,000 bets can produce a POT of 1% and the next 10,000 could produce a loss on turnover of 2%. If you are dealing with such small margins that is no aberation. It means that after 20,000 bets there is a loss on turnover, NOT a profit. But what smart staking can do is turn a small loss on level stakes turnover into a profit. Your theories say it cannot be done without wiping you out. lol But betting is NOT theory, it is practise.
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Old 23rd December 2007, 08:04 PM
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Show me one lot of 10,000 bets anywhere that produces 1% POT and the other 10,000 that shows a loss.

Guess I'll be waiting til next Christmas.

Ho Ho Ho.

Staking cannot turn a loss into a profit or the bookies would go broke.

Overround will get you in the end.

You can temporarily turn a loss into a profit, but that's luck, not logic and maths.

Where are all the stalwarts of loss into profit.

E.J. busted
Tony TTA busted

Both no longer heard from.

I guess that's why it's called gambling, there will always be those throwing money at a house edge.
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Old 23rd December 2007, 08:16 PM
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So how can you claim that you have the "betting System"


I think your doing a bit of fishing
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Old 23rd December 2007, 08:48 PM
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Dude,

If your system is so profitable, what are you doing wasting your time on a web forum?

I know if I found that a system that was profitable and thus make me rich, the last thing I would be doing would be posting about it on a web forum. I'd be out living the high life, heck I'd be buying my own race horses instead of betting on them!
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