Crash, what's good about this idea is HEAPS of action, so even if only a tiny profit can be made there's no problem at all getting to a decent turnover without placing very large bets on a few horses (which obviously can affect the divies)
My place plan only gives 5 bets a week on average so it has that built in weakness, another point is that if I miss a bet (has happened) it can be a disaster, whereas with smaller bets it doesn't matter (as much)
Anyway keep it up, for that streak!! hahah!

What got me Party was listening to about 4 or 5 of those greys win in a row !
About 7 winners overall !! Hard to take for a win man having place bets.

The actions the thing. Safe and potential small profit [or loss]. I like to handicap my own choice horse races to win. I don't have many bets. Maybe 1 or 2 a day except for up to 5 on Sat. This place thing give me some action during the week. It's quiet out here in a small town [thank god the tourists have gone back to the city with their noisy power boats and jetskis after the School hols].

This place stuff is cheap pleasure although I'm naturally working on it to be profitable in it's own right.

Kenchar I know what you mean. Problem I see is $2 to $3 place quickly gets you out to backing horse for the place outside the top 5 a lot. Where most place money is bet for the place. So small divvies for horses $6 to $15 SP. $2.50p for a $12 SP horse is common. SR in that price range becomes a lot harder and will be correspondingly lower. Serious handicapping, not a system would be required and at that stage. I would be thinking, stuff the place I can handicap for the win at much better odds and better profitability.

You are probably on the screen watching prices and opportunities. That is the only way to chase $2 average prices for the win. I just haven't the time or inclination to bet like that. That's the problem for me and anyone else who can't, or doesn't want to watch last min. odds before betting. Of course, some people enjoy that type of punting and I'm not suprised it's more profitable than what I'm doing here.

Cheers.


THURSDAY 30TH MARCH

TOOWOOMBA
R4/1 OUT ON BAIL
R5/4 ANABASCA
R6/1 WHAT A TALE
R8/ BIG KEA

CRANBOURNE
R5/1 MITEMAN
R6/ CAPE BELLE
R7/3 CONCLAVE
R8/4 DIRTY DENIM

GOSFORD
R1/1 SUPER SWEEP
R2/1 BEDCLOTHS
R7/4 SOMTHIN LIKA JEM
R8//5 GYPSY JEM

Crash,
What you have quoted is so true except the divies, you do NOT have to go past the 4th fav in any bettable race, BUT you do have to be watching the screen constantly.
It's the only way I know to bet and if I was made to bet any other way I would be back in the workforce super quick.
Today another good day but got caught short with a couple after the jump when they crashed (no pun intended)

Date (AEST)	Tm (AEST)	Trans	Event Date	Meeting	Rc	Selections	S	Bet Type	Odds	Return/Flx%	Debit	Credit
30/03/06	16:38	06033000046	30/03/06	TOOWOOMBA	6	5 Sequallan		Place				$36.00
30/03/06	16:25	06033000044	30/03/06	TOOWOOMBA	6	5 Sequallan		Place			$20.00
30/03/06	16:25	06033000042	30/03/06	GOSFORD	6	2 Nothin' Leica Girl		Place				$36.00
30/03/06	16:13	06033000038	30/03/06	GOSFORD	6	2 Nothin' Leica Girl		Place			$20.00
30/03/06	15:47	06033000033	30/03/06	TOOWOOMBA	5	7 Azzason		Place			$20.00
30/03/06	14:56	06033000030	30/03/06	GOSFORD	4	16 Lashante		Place			$20.00
30/03/06	14:38	06033000026	30/03/06	TOOWOOMBA	2	1 Mr Bubble		Place				$56.00
30/03/06	14:00	06033000024	30/03/06	TOOWOOMBA	2	1 Mr Bubble		Place			$20.00
30/03/06	13:53	06033000016	30/03/06	GOSFORD	2	1 Bedclothes		Place				$26.00
30/03/06	13:45	06033000014	30/03/06	GOSFORD	2	1 Bedclothes		Place			$20.00
30/03/06	13:40	06033000006	30/03/06	TOOWOOMBA	1	9 Ebony Girl		Place				$42.00
30/03/06	13:26	06033000004	30/03/06	TOOWOOMBA	1	9 Ebony Girl		Place			$20.00

Cheers

Kenchar,
I know where your coming from. When I look up results I see many selections I would just not back from the pp list. Today has been a good example [one 2 go before I post results]. Some winners but overall loss. Still, cheap thrills.

THURSDAY 30TH MARCH

TOOWOOMBA
R4/1 OUT ON BAIL
R5/4 ANABASCA
R6/1 WHAT A TALE [$2.05]
R8/ BIG KEA

CRANBOURNE
R5/1 MITEMAN [$2.37]
R6/ CAPE BELLE
R7/3 CONCLAVE
R8/4 DIRTY DENIM[$1.96]

GOSFORD
R1/1 SUPER SWEEP [NTD]
R2/1 BEDCLOTHS [w$2.15 p$1.32]
R7/4 SOMETHIN LIKA JEM
R8//5 GYPSY JEM

Outlay 12 units Return 7.7 Loss 4.3

Tomorrow I'm going to handicap some [few] selection and try and get on top of this place scene. This is boring. No system is going to do it it seems. Still. lots of fun without too much loss exposure in a quick system approach.

Friday 31st March [HANDICAPPED SELECTIONS]

EAGLE FARM
R6/4 HANDY RED
R7/2 ANABRASCO
R8/1 EPSON RACES
R9/3 LEARNED LEO

SANDOWN
R3/4 PINSEMONT
R4/2 JUGGLE THE BOOKS
R5/5 VALKYIE DIVA

GOLBOURN
R5/4 BAZAARS
R7/1 THE SLAM

Check track cond't. Good tracks only.

EAGLEFARM
R7/2 ANABRASCO
R8/1 EPSON RACES

BOTH HAVE BEEN SCRATCHED.

Below is what the system picked [no bets just interest] in the above races where they differ from mine. I'll be able to see if the system beats my [quick] handicapping effort. I have replaced my scratchings with the 2 picks below from the system for betting purposes.

EAGLE FARM
R6/3 MR BAARDOT
R7/1 ALEGRO SPIRITOSO
R8/3 SUN SPINNER
R9/2 RACE TRACK

SANDOWN
R5/1 MERRY DRINKER

GOLBOURN
R7/2 THERE IS NO DOUBT

ALL GOOD TRACKS TODAY.

Friday 31st March [HANDICAPPED SELECTIONS]

EAGLE FARM
R6/4 HANDY RED [$2.48]
R7/1 ALEGRO SPIRITOSO [W$3.14 P$1.64]
R8/3 SUN SPINNER [$2.18]
R9/3 LEARNED LEO [$1.64]

SANDOWN
R3/4 PINSEMONT [W$1.64 P$1.21]
R4/2 JUGGLE THE BOOKS [W$1.95 P$1.11]
R5/5 VALKYIE DIVA [$2.06]

GOULBOURN
R5/4 BAZAARS
R7/1 THE SLAM [W$13.35 P$4.04]

OUTLAY 9 UNITS. RETURN 16.36 UNITS. BEST DAY SO FAR. [OH BOY, I WOULD HAVE LIKED THE WIN BET [LOVE THAT LINDA MEECH ON THE SLAM !].


SYSTEM SELECTIONS

EAGLE FARM
R6/3 MR BAARDOT [$2.72]
R7/1 ALEGRO SPIRITOSO [W$3.14 P$1.64]
R8/3 SUN SPINNER [$2.18]
R9/2 RACE TRACK

SANDOWN
R5/1 MERRY DRINKER

GOULBOURN
R7/2 THERE IS NO DOUBT

OUTLAY 6 UNITS. RETURN 5.56. LOSS O.04 UNITS

TIME TO CHUCK THE SYSTEM AND HANDICAP SELECTIONS INSTEAD?

Today [sat] will be handicapped selections only.
By dropping the system selection method I should see a much better return.

So far there has been a total O/L of 76 units for a return of 80.6. Profit 4.68

CAULFIELD ['DEAD', BUT I HAVE HADICAPPED FOR DEAD THIS TRACK]
R2/3 CHARMED LADY
R4/3 ANNA'S CHOICE
R5/2 KELTHORPE
R7/9 MADISON LANE
R8/5 CORRECT AMOONDO

PERTH
R4/8 IS AMAZING

CHELTENHAM
R3/3 EXALTED MADAM
R4/4 HEADLAND
R5/2 FAXED
R6/4 DAME SEVEN
R7/9 OBGLO

DOOMBEN ['DEAD', BUT I HAVE HADICAPPED FOR DEAD THIS TRACK]
R2/3 WESLEY MANOR

BENDIGO
R7/11 COSTA MARBELLA