Did you know the driver waiting in the getaway car will also be charged with murder if the bank robbery goes tragically wrong?
And if you know of criminal activity taking place,and do not alert the authorities,then you are aiding and abetting.
If I had any evidence that there was corruption going on,surely I'd be a fool to continue punting.

It sounds like somebody has been feeding somebody a load of verbal diarrhea. You must have seen a dog being biled out, and they've told you it's margarine, and yoy believed it. Apart from making a dog violantly ill I can't see any benefits, a hard chaser will chase with a belly full of bricks and win anyway. To get a dogs price out to 15/1 or 20/1 it would take at least 5 runs, and the money to make it worthwhile would be more than the tote pool or a bookmaker would stand you for.
As for weight variation a dog can be up say .4, this is done pre kennelling, before the race the dogs are paraded, a dog can empty out and unless you weigh it how do you know the dogs weight.
As far as picking a winner if you sort out the trainers who can train and I don't neccessarily mean the leading trainers [the statistics are easily available] a dog that can run, in the right grade on the right side of the track you are a long way to being successful

Now there you hear someone spitting out the truth rather than the bull******** we tend to believe.
Millions of Germans thought that Hitler was a godsend!

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Nulla,
I'm not going to get into a debate with you, all I am trying to to do is offer advise given to me by a bloke that wins more money at the dogs than 99% of us could dream of regardless of what we bet on.
If he would let me go with him on a sat and mon night I would basically never bet a nag again.
He won't let me as there is only about 6 bookies now at wenty and that is 99% where he places his bets.Forget the TAB as far as dogs are concerned, as a $1000 bet would kill your odds.
As far as other things mentioned here believe me or not I don't give a damn.
Let me just put one more thing to you.
If you were a dog and was being put in the box and you got a really hard squeeze on the nuts, how would you race?????
Food for thought because it's another thing that DOES happen.
Good punting,I just hope the bricks in the stomach of the dog you bet on are made from styrene.

To All Doubting Thomases,

J. Gilbert one of the biggest trainers in NSW, who's dogs have a habit of losing at short odds and winning at decent odds has just been suspended for using COCAINE on the dogs.

I REST MY CASE.

My uncle used to race dogs ages ago..he told me he used to stick deep heat in the dogs butt....made them run like there was no tomorrow.....guess they just wanted it out...funny thing it was not against the rules RSPCA don't take tio kindly..tried to charge him with cruelty to animals...he beat them in court by telling the judge they had straind there calf muscle and thats what he was using to fix it...lol

Well watched a documentary about greyhound racing in Ireland. Where they put the dogs on the train tracks and make them run for their lives. Sadly quite a lot of dogs die when being hit by the catching train. Those that make it are considered to be good enough to race. Sad world.

Hi all

Interesting read i know that a few people i knew when i had greyhounds use to to be weight conscious of the dog. The winning weight was the meseuring stick so to speak. How to interpret the variations i am not sure.

Yes as dogs are placed in the boxes many things can happen.

A pro i use to know with the greyhounds used the following:
-He use to go to all the trials
-Use his own timer
-Time the greyhounds from the start to the winning post etc
-Look at the weight
-frame his market

He doen very well for himself. He was disciplined and patient.

regards
ubetido

Dogs weight. You can find all that info on grv.org.au but what does it really make a difference too. Here is an example

Race 6 G.I./F.M. 100.7 (GOBIS)
Free For All 513 Metres 01:25PM
Box Dog Trk Last Tday Var.
1. HOTLINE HERO [G] 35.8 36.4 36.0 -0.4
2. AWESOME GUS [G] 39.2 39.2 39.2 SW
3. RARE RESPECT [G]34.0 34.0 34.4 +0.4
4. PARUMBA SURPRISE 27.0 27.0 27.0 SW
5.***VacantBox*** 6. DARK JAY [G] 27.6 36.4 36.4 SW
7. DANNY MAGEE [G] 33.4 34.2 34.2 SW
8. BROMAGE 35.6 36.4 36.0 -0.4

Results:
#1,8,4
R7
Box Dog Trk Last Tday Var.
1. NICHOLAS JAMES 33.2 33.2 33.4 +0.2
2. TINY TIPPER 29.0 29.6 29.6 SW
3. WAISTCOAT 32.8 32.8 31.8 -1.0 *
4. PACING POWER 31.4 32.4 32.4 SW
5. STORM ALERT (SA) N/A 33.8 33.6 -0.2
6. AKINA GEM 26.4 26.4 26.4 SW
7. ZEMSEL N/A 31.4 31.8 +0.4
8. HIGHLY POWERED 26.0 26.0 25.8 -0.2

Results#1,4,7
R8
Box Dog Trk Last Tday Var.
1. LOTSA DOTS 27.6 29.0 29.2 +0.2
2. CARIOKA LIL 32.6 32.2 32.2 SW
3. MIRIKU 34.4 34.2 34.2 SW
4. SAVANNAH DAWN 25.8 25.8 25.8 SW
5. LADY ROSA 29.8 29.8 29.8 SW
6. AKINA RUBY 26.0 26.0 26.2 +0.2
7. SCARPANTONI 31.0 31.0 31.2 +0.2
8. RICOSHEA 29.6 29.6 29.8 +0.2

Results:#7,8,3

Now I dont what to make of this. Winners have lost weight, gained weight, stayed the same. Fluctuation I call it. These weights are given when they weigh them at the track at whatever time. The dogs then walk down to the boxes release some tension, and have a bog or a piddle somewhere. Some dogs do, some dogs dont. And I dont know what to make of that.
On the grv formguide it has winning weights.

Race 6#1 Hotline hero won. This weight.36.0
his winning weights:
35.2 kg (2) 35.6 kg (2) 35.8 kg (8) 36.0 kg (7) 36.2 kg (2) 36.4 kg (3) 36.6 kg (3) 37.0 kg (2)

Race 7 #1 This weight:33.4
Winning weights:
33.2 kg (1) 33.4 kg (1)

Race 8#7 this weight 31.2
winning weights:
30.4 kg (3) 30.6 kg (1) 30.8 kg (2) 31.0 kg (1)



Now since you have read the winners weights, lets see if anything reasonable pops up in the losing dogs. TO see whether there is a *reason.

Race 6:#2 This weight 39.2
Winning weights:
37.0 kg (1) 37.2 kg (1) 37.6 kg (1) 39.2 kg (1)
#3 This weight 34.4
Winning weights:
33.4 kg (2) 34.0 kg (1) 34.2 kg (1) 34.4 kg (2)
#4 This weight: 27.0
winning weights:
26.4 kg (1) 26.8 kg (1) 27.0 kg (1)

#6 This weight: 36.4
Winning weights:
36.6 kg (1) 37.2 kg (2) 37.6 kg (1) 38.0 kg (1)

#7 This weight: 34.2
Winning weights:
33.4 kg (3) 33.6 kg (3) 33.8 kg (1) 34.2 kg (1) 34.4 kg (1)

#8 This weight: 36
Winning weight:
35.6 kg (1) 36.0 kg (1) 36.4 kg (1)

So if you look at where they are in their winning weights
#1 IN the middle
#2 At the end
#3 At the end
#4 At the end
#6 At the start
#7 At the end
#8 In the middle

Interesting....#1,8 were in the middle of their winning weights and they ran 1st and 2nd. Lets see if it continues:

Race 7: #1 Weight: 33.4
33.2 kg (1) 33.4 kg (1)

#2 Weight: 29.6
28.4 kg (1) 29.0 kg (1) 29.2 kg (1)

#3 Weight: 31.8
kg (1) 30.8 kg (2) 31.0 kg (1) 31.4 kg (1)

#4 Weight: 32.4
31.2 kg (1) 31.6 kg (1) 32.0 kg (1)

#5 Weight: 33.6
33.6 kg (2) 34.0 kg (1)

#6 Weight: 26.4
25.8 kg (1) 26.0 kg (1) 26.4 kg (1)

#7 Weight: 31.8
31.2 kg (1) 31.4 kg (1)

#8 Weight: 25.8
25.2 kg (1) 26.0 kg (2)

#1 End
#2 Over
#3 Over
#4 over
#5 Start
#6 End
#7 Over
#8 End

Results #1,4,7

I dont have the time to go through more races. But draw whatever info you can out of that.