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Old 6th October 2008, 09:12 AM
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... Crash didn't you have a bit EW on Zipping?


Wish I had Party. The better half backed the winner though!
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Old 6th October 2008, 10:36 PM
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I follow sectional times very closely and the previous clash between Weekend Hussler and Littorio, seen Littorio gain 6 lengths on Weekend Hussler over the final 600m. One had to back Littorio on that effort.

The previous run prior to that of Weekend Hussler where we seen the Hussler running close up on the pace, the tempo for what race was one of the slowest I have seen, it was pretty well impossible for anything to come from behind him and win that day.

It's amazing what sectional times can reveal.

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Old 7th October 2008, 03:49 AM
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Crash I agree...always allow a good horse at least one below par run.....

It's a bad time to have a "bad run"

I think that people are starting to realise that the horse isn't the "Unbeatable Machine" that they built him up to be.

Even the trainer said he may not run in the Caulfield Cup if he draws a bad barrier AND they may have to race him off the pace...

It's a bit late for re-evaluations aint it?
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Old 7th October 2008, 04:16 PM
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I think your a bit hard on weekend hussler We cant all be perfect and neither can he. At least hes got the runs on the board as opposed to some donkeys I know are over rated. Why should we bother at all with your view on re evaluations. Maybe its a bit hard for you to appreciate a very very good horse when you see one.
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Old 7th October 2008, 04:33 PM
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It's a bad time to have a "bad run"

I think that people are starting to realise that the horse isn't the "Unbeatable Machine" that they built him up to be.

Even the trainer said he may not run in the Caulfield Cup if he draws a bad barrier AND they may have to race him off the pace...

It's a bit late for re-evaluations aint it?
It's never a good time to have a bad run...... as you point out it (fortunately/unfortunately) allows for a chance to re-evaluate where the horse is at, we all know it's not an exact science, otherwise we'd be all on Xanadu's Fisho thread..... All trainers reassess after a run, good, bad or otherwise.
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Old 7th October 2008, 05:33 PM
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I hope he comes out next start and flogs them.
You think he is overrated we all have an opinion good bad or otherwise.
You cann't argue that he isn't a very good horse. Champion well that is still in the wind, the gloss has come of after his last start. I will give him two more starts before writing him of (over 2000 mt )
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Old 7th October 2008, 06:01 PM
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There is nothing in the Hussler's breeding line that doesn't suggest 'staying'. A 3 wide run on a leader biased track didn't help. The horse was 'flat' last week after several 7 day turn-a-rounds and even the best horses in the past had those sort of poor runs. I still think the Hussler is the best horse in the country. Perhaps next start we will at least get better odds worth taking.
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Old 7th October 2008, 08:45 PM
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Hey Skytrain

I dont even think Zipping is gonna run in the Caulfield Cup.
Not in any of the markets anywhere?
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Old 7th October 2008, 08:51 PM
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yep i think you're right ,,No Zipping in CC ,,and i cant see him running in the MC either,,Loyd said after last years MC the horse can run a strong 2800m but the 2 miles is to long...
the Cox and the Mv cup i'd say ...
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Old 15th October 2008, 01:44 PM
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I think your a bit hard on weekend hussler We cant all be perfect and neither can he. At least hes got the runs on the board as opposed to some donkeys I know are over rated. Why should we bother at all with your view on re evaluations. Maybe its a bit hard for you to appreciate a very very good horse when you see one.
When the trainer comes out and suggest that they're going to ride the horse differently and they change the gear.....I guess the trainer is re-evaluating things himself, no?

As for being "over rated", that's in reference to Weekend Hussler being rated alongside Phar Lap and Kingston Town, nothing else. One can suggest a horse is over rated and at the same time still hold admiration for the horse.

Personally I rate Weekend Hussler as an excellent sprinter/miler with the ability to carry his class up to 10f. Over time they may manage to win a good race at 2000m...even a Cox Plate, but I still believe we'll see the best of him at the mile.

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