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Old 30th December 2004, 08:25 PM
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Doing well, Testarossa. Think I'll have to apply Testarossa's Place system to the Best Bets for the place (For those not in the know look at http://forums.ozmium.com.au/?topic=1201&forum=7)
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That link didn't seem to work.
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Old 30th December 2004, 10:41 PM
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Hi Guys,

That thread address doesn't seem to be working. Sorry! Don't understand how some of the things work on this new updated forum

The gist of his system is summarised in this quote:

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Originally Posted by hermes
Hammers,

As I understand it Testarossa covers all the possibilities of getting two or three strikes in a row on placebets.

He uses four banks of $200. First bet = $2.

Bank A is level stakes.
Bank B covers two strikes in a row. If race 1 is a strike, let it ride on race 2. If it wins, bank it. Start again with $2 on race 3.
Bank C. covers three strikes in a row. If race 1 places carry to 2, if it places carry to 3, if it places bank and start again.
Bank D is tricky. Its the same as Bank B. but it covers all the combinations not covered by Bank B. Let race 2 ride on race 3, for example. In Bank D you bank and bet fresh on the same race so its staggered against the other sequences.

The more two strikes in a row and three in a row you get the more your profits multiply - obviously. You turn over your winnings.

You can find discussion in the topic "Placegetter system". Its basically running several columns of all-ups concurrently.

Testarossa says he spun $800 into $13,000 in 12 months using this accelerator. Place bets. Sure things. But he has an exceptional strike rate. He could run a four-in-a-row bank. But it works (on paper) for me on a more modest strike rate. Just running banks A, B and C works OK too. First bet is $6 (2+2+2). Simply stake a third of it for level stakes, a third on getting two in a row and a third on three in a row. Four banks works magic - if outs are rare. (Obviously again. ANY system works better if outs are rare.)

Testarossas four bank job is very neat.

But even then I'm discovering the value of level stakes. The way staking plans seem to accelerate earnings incredibly is a mirage. They do so by betting more. Of course. The more you bet the more you make (and risk). There is no way known you can bet less and make more (at less risk). Some plans are good and safe. Testarossas has the virtue of betting more with the TABs money rather than your own. But I'm finding that even the best plans aren't nearly as superior to level stakes as they seem and as I imagined.

The problem comes down to:

I'm making good POT on placegetters. Got myself a selection system that pays. But it pays maybe $20 dollars over 100 races. It will take a long time to get rich that way. To accelerate it I need more funds to invest. I could multiply my bets by a hundred and make $2000 over 100 races.But where do I get the cash (legally and without the wife knowing) and there will inevitably be runs of outs in the average, won't there?

Schemes propose getting all or some of this money from somewhere other than my pocket. Turn over winnings. Or reinvest a percentage of bank as it grows, or percentage of running profit, or some other calculation. But you'll always be risking money that is a reward for risking money from your pocket. Factor in risk and it all comes from your pocket.


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Old 30th December 2004, 11:08 PM
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Hmmm, I must admit I'm still a little bit unsure about all that, but never mind.
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Janaury 1

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Randwick

R1 (1) HAVANA WIND, (4) Men At Work, (2) Bush Flash, (1,4,2,3,7,6)

R2 (2) LORD BUBBLES, (4) Saxon, (1) Jymcarew, (2,4,1,5,3,6)

R3 (1) BUNKUM, (2) Bennett's Green, (3) Zarouk, (1,2,3,5,4,6)

R4 (2) KINCHARM, (3) Redoubtablemperor, (4) Snowden, (2,3,4,10,7,5)

R5 (1) DISGUISE, (2) Vachere, (4) Isle Of Gibraltar, (1,2,4,5,6,3)

R6 (3) PRESENTLY, (2) Lucky Night, (4) Sunset Run, (3,2,4,1,6,5)

R7 (1) DANTE'S PARADISO, (5) Mahtoum, (8) Inuit, (1,5,8,2,10,6)

R8 (3) HIGH PRIORITY, (1) Lieutenant, (2) Super Sweep, (3,1,2,5,4,6)

Best Bets:

R4 (2) KINCHARM.
R5 (1) DISGUISE.

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!!

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Flemington

R1 (8) TRICK OR TREATING, (7) Amazing Trace, (2) Golfyn, (8,7,2,4,1,5)

R2 (2) TWISTED HEART, (4) Redhot Edge, (1) Plans, (2,4,1,3,5,6)

R3 (3) STORMDUSTER, (2) Star And Hope, (5) El Man Goss, (3,2,5,7,12,10)

R4 (1) CATSCAN, (4) Imposing Mayhem, (5) Fairweather, (1,4,5,3,2,6)

R5 (2) CAPADAN, (9) Porto Duoro, (1) Mr O'Hara, (2,9,1,4,3,7)

R6 (9) GUNNER TOM, (5) Shango's Image, (3) Broadband, (9,5,3,2,1,12)

R7 (1) RED HANNIGAN, (5) Fine Omens, (6) Limited Impulse, (1,5,6,7,2,8)

R8 (13) FOREST PRIDE, (6) Beaujolais Prince, (3) Ashkalante, (13,6,3,1,4,15)

R9 (2) OFF WHITE, (5) Lancaster's Gold, (1) You Little Beaut, (2,5,1,15,9,6)

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!!

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Doomben

R1 (2) DAUNTING LAD, (1) Fleet Baron, (6) Learned Leo, (2,1,6,7,4,3)

R2 (15) SPRUNG, (4) Socialist, (6) Cougar Miss, (15,4,6,7,14,17)

R3 (5) SABRE KNIGHT, (4) Picablu, (3) Idyllic Dream , (5,4,3,2,9,6)

R4 (1) HAMAH, (13) Moroccan Boy, (4) Collared, (1,13,4,2,3,5)

R5 (1) SHYSU, (7) Countess Bathory, (2) Hialeah Star, (1,7,2,3,5,6)

R6 (8) ALFONSO, (5) Deuxieme, (3) Show Biz Kid, (8,5,3,4,7,9)

R7 (2) DANE FEVER, (3) Sir Bisc, (4) Gramodale Gold, (2,3,4,7,5,8)

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!!

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Morphettville

R1 (2) YELLOWSTONE, (1) Kashmiri, (8) Mercia, (2,1,8,12,4,6)

R2 (3) HONOUR KATE, (4) Jetset Girl, (2) Another Fantasy, (3,4,2,8,1,6)

R3 (2) DESERT MISSION, (3) Satara, (1) By My Side, (2,3,1,5,6,9)

R4 (3) MT BILLY, (4) Swiss Vault, (2) Taos Pleasure, (3,4,2,5,6,1)

R5 (1) HONALEE, (4) Youths Edge, (6) Thirsk, (1,4,6,3,7,5)

R6 (3) TIONA, (4) Ali Gee, (1) White Foil, (3,4,1,8,2,6)

R7 (2) LAWSON'S STORM, (4) Pipkin, (1) Almost Never, (2,4,1,3,6,5)

R8 (4) MAJOR'S CREEK, (5) Artfulino, (1) Cardiac Arrest, (4,5,1,2,10,11)

Best Bets:

R2 (3) HONOUR KATE.
R4 (3) MT BILLY.
R5 (1) HONALEE.
R8 (4) MAJOR'S CREEK.

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!!

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Old 1st January 2005, 01:48 PM
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Great tip with Honour Kate! Makes my Brindabella look like a dud!
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Randwick

R1 (1) HAVANA WIND - $3.20, (4) Men At Work, (2) Bush Flash, (1,4,2,3,7,6)
Q - $1.80, E - $4.80, T - $22.50, F4 - $49.70, (1-4-3-2)

R2 (2) LORD BUBBLES, (4) Saxon - $6.50, (1) Jymcarew, (2,4,1,5,3,6)
Q - $8.00, E - $13.90, T - $96.20, F4 - $116.10, (4-1-3-2)

R3 (1) BUNKUM, (2) Bennett's Green - $7.50, (3) Zarouk, (1,2,3,5,4,6)
Q - $16.00, E - $41.80, T - $221.40, F4 - $743.60, (2-3-5-6)

R4 (2) KINCHARM, (3) Redoubtablemperor, (4) Snowden, (2,3,4,10 - $4.20,7,5)
Q - $6.30, E - $14.20, T - $45.90, F4 - $329.90, (10-4-2-5)

R5 (1) DISGUISE, (2) Vachere, (4) Isle Of Gibraltar, (1,2,4,5 - $14.50,6,3)
Q - $27.80, E - $68.00, T - $159.50, (5-2-1-8)

R6 (3) PRESENTLY - $7.40, (2) Lucky Night, (4) Sunset Run, (3,2,4,1,6,5)
Q - $20.90, E - $45.70, T - $164.50, F4 - $735.10, (3-2-1-5)

R7 (1) DANTE'S PARADISO - $1.80, (5) Mahtoum, (8) Inuit, (1,5,8,2,10,6)
(1-7-2-9)

SORRY FORGOT TO POST RACE 8 FOR SOME REASON!!!!!!!

R9 (3) HIGH PRIORITY, (1) Lieutenant, (2) Super Sweep, (3,1,2,5,4,6)
(10-1-3-2)

Best Bets:

R4 (2) KINCHARM - 3rd, $1.70.
R5 (1) DISGUISE - 3rd, $1.60.

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!!

R1 (2) BUSH FLASH - 4th.
R7 (5) MAHTOUM - UNP
R7 (8) INUIT - UNP.

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Flemington

R1 (8) TRICK OR TREATING, (7) Amazing Trace, (2) Golfyn, (8,7,2,4,1,5)
(6-7-8-1)

R2 (2) TWISTED HEART - $5.90, (4) Redhot Edge, (1) Plans, (2,4,1,3,5,6)
Q - $10.10, E - $18.30, (2-5-8-1)

R3 (3) STORMDUSTER, (2) Star And Hope, (5) El Man Goss, (3,2,5,7,12,10)
(4-5-8-6)

R4 (1) CATSCAN - $1.90, (4) Imposing Mayhem, (5) Fairweather, (1,4,5,3,2,6)
Q - $9.30, E - $13.60, T - $39.00, (1-3-2-11)

R5 (2) CAPADAN, (9) Porto Duoro, (1) Mr O'Hara, (2,9,1,4,3,7 - $5.40)
Q - $21.40, E - $40.30, (7-1-11-4)

R6 (9) GUNNER TOM, (5) Shango's Image, (3) Broadband, (9,5,3,2,1 - $8.50,12)
(1-6-13-3)

R7 (1) RED HANNIGAN, (5) Fine Omens, (6) Limited Impulse, (1,5,6,7,2,8)
(9-1-7-3)

R8 (13) FOREST PRIDE, (6) Beaujolais Prince - $11.00, (3) Ashkalante, (13,6,3,1,4,15)
Q - $37.60, E - $75.00, (6-13-8-4)

R9 (2) OFF WHITE - $4.60, (5) Lancaster's Gold, (1) You Little Beaut, (2,5,1,15,9,6)
(2-18-15-5)

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!!

R3 (2) STAR AND HOPE - UNP.
R5 (2) CAPADAN - UNP.
R6 (5) SHANGO'S IMAGE - UNP.
R6 (9) GUNNER TOM - UNP.
R8 (6) BEAUJOLAIS PRINCE - 1st, $11.00, $3.50.
R9 (5) LANCASTER'S GOLD - 4th.

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Doomben

R1 (2) DAUNTING LAD - $3.00, (1) Fleet Baron, (6) Learned Leo, (2,1,6,7,4,3)
(2-8-7-4)

R2 (15) SPRUNG, (4) Socialist, (6) Cougar Miss - $2.60, (15,4,6,7,14,17)
Q - $3.00, E - $6.80, T - $11.10, F4 - $61.30, (6-15-4-14)

R3 (5) SABRE KNIGHT, (4) Picablu, (3) Idyllic Dream , (5,4,3,2 - $3.80,9,6)
(2-10-3-4)

R4 (1) HAMAH, (13) Moroccan Boy, (4) Collared - $4.90, (1,13,4,2,3,5)
Q - $24.20, E - $42.30, T - $402.90, (4-13-5-10)

R5 (1) SHYSU, (7) Countess Bathory, (2) Hialeah Star - $8.50, (1,7,2,3,5,6)
Q - $6.30, E - $16.80, T - $96.50, F4 - $413.30, (2-1-5-7)

R6 (8) ALFONSO, (5) Deuxieme - $6.70, (3) Show Biz Kid, (8,5,3,4,7,9)
(5-1-13-8)

R7 (2) DANE FEVER, (3) Sir Bisc, (4) Gramodale Gold, (2,3,4,7,5,8)
(9-2-6-3)

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!!

R3 (5) SABRE KNIGHT - UNP.
R7 (4) GRAMODALE GOLD - UNP.

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Morphettville

R1 (2) YELLOWSTONE, (1) Kashmiri, (8) Mercia, (2,1,8,12,4,6)
(10-6-5-9)

R2 (3) HONOUR KATE - $12.80, (4) Jetset Girl, (2) Another Fantasy, (3,4,2,8,1,6)
Q - $28.80, E - $77.20, (3-8-7-1)

R3 (2) DESERT MISSION, (3) Satara, (1) By My Side, (2,3,1,5,6 - $22.00,9)
Q - $25.20, E - $69.70, T - $395.40, (6-2-3-7)

R4 (3) MT BILLY - $2.20, (4) Swiss Vault, (2) Taos Pleasure, (3,4,2,5,6,1)
Q - $3.50, E - $6.10, T - $32.10, F4 - $67.60, (3-2-6-4)

R5 (1) HONALEE - $2.30, (4) Youths Edge, (6) Thirsk, (1,4,6,3,7,5)
Q - $17.90, E - $26.00, T - $80.80, F4 - $341.00, (1-5-6-7)

R6 (3) TIONA, (4) Ali Gee, (1) White Foil - $4.60, (3,4,1,8,2,6)
Q - $40.80, E - $65.80, T - $320.90, (1-8-3-12)

R7 (2) LAWSON'S STORM, (4) Pipkin, (1) Almost Never - $4.30, (2,4,1,3,6,5)
Q - $9.10, E - $17.40, T - $107.60, F4 - $263.80, (1-2-3-4)

R8 (4) MAJOR'S CREEK - $1.90, (5) Artfulino, (1) Cardiac Arrest, (4,5,1,2,10,11)
Q - $13.50, E - $15.50, (4-2-3-1)

Best Bets:

R2 (3) HONOUR KATE - 1st, $12.80, $3.20.
R4 (3) MT BILLY - 1st, $2.20, $1.40.
R5 (1) HONALEE - 1st, $2.30, $1.20.
R8 (4) MAJOR'S CREEK - 1st, $1.90, $1.20.

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!!

R1 (1) KASHMIRI - UNP.
R1 (8) MERCIA - UNP.
R2 (3) HONOUR KATE - 1st, $12.80, $3.20.

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Updated Results:

Best Bets:

Selections - 59.
Winners - 23.
Return - $79.70.
Profit - $20.70.
Placings - 45.
Return - $67.10.
Profit - $8.10.

Best Longshots:

Selections - 93.
Winners - 8.
Return - $84.70.
Loss - $8.30.
Placings - 22.
Return - $67.00.
Loss - $26.00.

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Warwick Farm

R1 (7) CELTIC LORE, (1) Amianan, (2) Tempura, (7,1,2,6,4,9)

R2 (2) FEUDAL, (14) Catch The Bird, (4) Beauty Watch, (2,14,4,1,12,11)

R3 (4) MISS RAINMAKER, (1) Blazing Lady, (3) Are You Ready, (4,1,3,8,2,5)

R4 (7) WICKED WIZARD, (2) Market Unit, (5) Sadler's Song, (7,2,5,4,6,1)

R5 (1) BEALE STREET, (2) Lorne Valley, (3) Maverick, (1,2,3,5,4,7)

R6 (3) GROOVE MASTER, (8) Stanford, (4) Belle Feline, (3,8,4,5,6,7)

R7 (4) MEDOWIE EXPRESS, (3) Inflation, (1) The Net, (4,3,1,2,9,6)

R8 (10) LADY SUBLIME, (7) Klarissa, (9) To Be Surprised, (10,7,9,2,6,5)

Best Bets:

R2 (2) FEUDAL.
R3 (4) MISS RAINMAKER.

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!

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Moonee Valley

R1 (3) THUNDERY, (2) Birallee, (1) Carnegie Success, (3,2,1,5,6)

R2 (4) SURROUNDER, (9) Personal Ensign, (1) Call Me Lucky, (4,9,1,6,2,7)

R3 (1) MASTER TIANGAR, (4) Lawskin, (5) Sylvan Peak, (1,4,5,2,6,3)

R4 (3) COSMIC BEAM, (4) Echuca Beauty, (6) La Bella Zoccola, (3,4,6,7,2,8)

R5 (1) MEDIEVAL LEGEND, (3) Ruling Eyes, (4) Mr Magoo, (1,3,4,5,8,7)

R6 (1) CONCEPTUAL, (3) Phantom Thief, (2) Prancelot, (1,3,2,4,6)

R7 (12) ETOILE WEST, (8) Tanjil Mist, (10) Thor's Daughter, (12,8,10,7,13,4)

R8 (1) LUCKY DIVA, (3) Cos Snip, (2) Crystal Wit, (1,3,2,4,6)

Best Bets:

R2 (4) SURROUNDER.
R3 (1) MASTER TIANGAR.

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!

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Eagle Farm

R1 (1) NOBLE LIE, (8) Willow Park, (3) Premeditate, (1,8,3,13,6,11)

R2 (1) LION SAFARI, (3) Nessuno, (2) Mr Hoover, (1,3,2,5,4,6)

R3 (5) SPLENDID SAILS, (3) Boss Bear, (8) Montechoro, (5,3,8,1,6,17)

R4 (6) KING LATARMISS, (3) Planagram, (5) Quite Astute, (6,3,5,2,7,4)

R5 (2) SOUND WAVES, (3) Wolfman, (1) Final Demand, (2,3,1,9,6,4)

R6 (5) LISTEN PAL, (3) Chinbok, (4) Finnigan, (5,3,4,2,1,10)

R7 (6) PARALO, (7) Noble Gent, (2) Gloucester Road, (6,7,2,4,11,9)

R8 (3) HIGH SPY, (14) Rock Of Mufasa, (8) Regimental, (3,14,8,9,13,10)

Best Bets:

R1 (1) NOBLE LIE.
R4 (6) KING LATARMISS.

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!

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Strathalbyn

R1 (1) SO TEMPTED, (2) Wise As An Owl, (5) Magpie, (1,2,5,4,6)

R2 (10) JACKY SHU FLY, (4) Thumping, (9) Moon Halo, (10,4,9,5,8,3)

R3 (1) SEYMOUR LOUPS, (2) Bucephalus, (3) Rapidfire Lady, (1,2,3,6,5,4)

R4 (1) WILD WILD WEST, (2) Vivonne Bay, (5) Hurricane City, (1,2,5,3,4,7)

R5 (1) TARNPIR LAD, (2) Dancing Lass, (4) Golden Classic, (1,2,4,5,3,6)

R6 (7) CLAY MAN, (1) Tradesman's Choice, (4) Ottobello, (7,1,4,5,6,9)

R7 (1) IMBRUGLIA, (4) March In Style, (2) Making The Road, (1,4,2,3,5,9)

R8 (15) OXFORD ANNIE, (1) Beau Bullion, (4) Enter The Sandman, (15,1,4,2,8,5)

Best Bet:

R1 (1) SO TEMPTED.

Best Longshots:

ANY TOP 3 SELECTION PAYING $10 OR LONGER!!!!!

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