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Old 15th August 2005, 06:56 AM
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hey xanadu and all,,,,,,,,,,i dont think the ride on dance hero was bad and the time they ran was a new record,the way shaina let down at the end was the sign of a horse with a lot class,,,but time will tell...
xanadu it was interesting to notice that between gai,hawkes,bart,beadman,boss there was not that much left for the others....................cheers.........gaz...... ....
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Old 15th August 2005, 11:17 AM
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Greetings to all,
Iomaca - goodonya! you identified a class performer which was well over the odds and ignored the general trend of the betting public, good luck to you.
Sportz - good bet! you were able to turn a profit from an "upset" result - keep doing that and you will survive in the long-run.
Gazman - it is an interesting statistic isn't it? The major stables and riders certainly get all the "cream" and the "battlers" have to be content with the "crumbs." Then again why shouldn't excellence be rewarded?
Let's face it...the Waterhouse stable certainly supports the country and provincial circuit especially at Newcastle, Gosford and Wyong where she takes her lesser lights and potentially promising candidates for an "easy" kill. Seriously, an astute punter can make a good living from following her runners at these venues as most are high class, high cost, well-bred individuals which are working their way through the classes before taking on the more elite opposition in town. To a lesser extent, the same applies for the Hawkes establishment so I suppose that, as far as benefit to the industry goes, the domination by the mega stables may not be such a bad thing.

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Old 15th August 2005, 11:42 AM
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Just heard this morning that Carry On Cutie was greatly inconvenienced by Snippetson in the run. So, I'm still hopeful of a good spring for her.
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Old 15th August 2005, 12:17 PM
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Wink Carry On Cutie

Yeah, she was given a bit of a "buffetting" from other runner(s), who, by the way , set a very solid pace - don't forget, she is still probably a bit immature but I agree, she should pay to follow this Spring.
After you mentioned it the other day it received solid pre-post support, maybe you "lit the fire" of support for it.

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Old 15th August 2005, 01:41 PM
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hey xanadu and all,,,,,,,,,,i dont think the ride on dance hero was bad and the time they ran was a new record,the way shaina let down at the end was the sign of a horse with a lot class,,,but time will tell...
xanadu it was interesting to notice that between gai,hawkes,bart,beadman,boss there was not that much left for the others....................cheers.........gaz...... ....


The fact that it was a new record would indicate to me that it wasn't the best ride by Beasley. He had Spark of Life covered a long way from home and they were already travelling at an enormous pace. If he had just stayed with the leader until the final furlong he would've most likely won the race. The winner was very impressive and surprised me, but Ikes Dream got home just as well as her and Carrie On Cutie who was molested by Snippetson did run a good race and judging by the follow on was full of running towards the end. Thousand Guineas looks an ideal target.

Was also extremely impressed by the second placed Pendragon earlier in the day, they really walked early and he was physically no chance of getting to the leader from second last in the time they sprinted home. Come time for the Golden Rose he will be spot on, and they don't walk in front in million dollar races, i am declaring him already.
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Old 15th August 2005, 01:47 PM
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I have 10 criteria in my rating, and Shania Dane never came less then third, as a matter of fact it came second four times, in the individual ratings. and third in the overall.
Given the prices for the favs, and the price on offer, I would have been stupid not to back it.
I had them in this order 6-2-5-1
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Would you share some of the criteria that helped you back the winner.I rated Dance Hero way in front, but unbackable at the odds.

The winner I only rated worth backing on breeding and had it 5 out of 6.Shania Dane must have huge potential to run down DH the way it did
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Old 15th August 2005, 02:02 PM
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Yeah Mr ed,

Pendragon certainly has the "big wrap" on him at the moment. Also, has top trainer, top jockey and is leading up to that race very nicely having finished from 7th at the 400m to run second, beaten 3/4 len by Paratrooper, which was ridden a masterful ride by Beadman.
I can see why you are so confident and expecting a top run in it's next race.

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Old 15th August 2005, 02:09 PM
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I wasn't suprised at all. It was a no bet race for me anyway, but i can recall shania dane doing something similar early in the autumn, i can;t remember the race but i am pretty sure she stormed home in a big race and upset the apple cart.

I thought dance hero was miles in front with everything "being even". But i knew that wouldnt be the case. The instructions for spark of life would be to ride more agressively at the start at all costs. I think the message from the trainer would have been don't stay out of touch with dance hero even if it means stuffing up your own chances. That sounds stupid, but if spark of life was to take a sit, then with no other speed in the race the hero would run them off their feet like previously. Wheras if you go out for the front then at least there is a chance that dance hero might be inconvenienced in the run or something. It was a lose lose situation for both spark of life and dance hero.

With that in mind i thought the only three chances were carry on cutie, ikes dream and shania dane. i was going to go with carry on cutie but she was unders in my opinion. Then i saw the price for ikes dream and shania dane which i thought were pretty much equal chances and thought it was a bit fishy so left it alone.

I think it was one of those races where on paper you go oh well dance hero is a moral. But then you say to yourself, tactics???

I agree with Mr Ed though. Beasley went to early.
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Old 15th August 2005, 03:14 PM
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mr ed and t,mr ed how much more time do think dance hero would have taken of that record if it was riden better????????that record has stood a lot of class horse over the years and ikes dream had no chance of beating dance hero i do feel for the jock as if he stood back and took the sit everyone would be jumping all over him.............as for pendragon ive seen boss ride a loy better,but maybe he was told to ride it like that.....cheers .....gaz.........
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Old 15th August 2005, 03:17 PM
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Yeah Tenacious Spirit,

She won those two quality races in the autumn then was spelled and came back primed for Saturday's race with a solid barrier trial on 5.8.05. Obviously, she grew and matured during her spell and was ready for Saturday's race, although as mentioned before, tactics employed by other riders presented her with the perfect opportunity to upset the well fancied runners.
We now roll on the lead-up races to the Spring carnival and as other top performers reappear there will be innumerable opportunities for the astute punter to prosper.
As I pinpointed in my post on 12.8.05, (SR8 Wild Queen $2.8 $1.4 & SR9 Mystery City $5.1 $1.9) class horses duly won. Class horses will, subject to injury and any other factors, continue to perform as their prior record suggests.

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