Sunday 16th

Commie system
Sunshine coast
R6/9 Nevada Gambler (7) $7.20w $2.60p [good track]
Mornington [slow then to heavy]
R5/7 Escape Artist (1) $1.60p
R8/5 Kimbo (16) unp

I'm just using stab prices as I live in Vic. Bit silly looking up unitab after hearing the stab price on the radio after a race. It all evens out in the wash. Got my WA selection in at $1.,90 the place so a good day for me, 3 out of 3 collects.

Goodday Crash,

Re: Prices I suggest you have a look at www dot ********************** dot com dot au it cost nothing to join and you can get prices from 3 tabs, centrebet +betfair.

Very useful if you have accounts with them.

Hope that helps you and others.

Cheers Wombat2

Crash, how do you find out which horses fit the system each day?

Spend a couple of pennies to subscribe to a half decent form guide covering all races anywhere in full. Below is an example of a 'short' form I use for systems [it all bunches up when you 'copy and paste' onto here] which comes with a handy track map at the top of each race page [not shown but is in the big space to the right] and preferably a service that shows 3 TAB live prices at the click of a button. There are plenty of services available, some better than others.......

ASCOT
R1 -12:15pm

Twilight Spy Hcp
2yo Open
Apprentices Can Claim Handicap Min Hcp Wgt : 53.0 17/04/06
1000m
$40,000
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Circumference: 2022m
Length of Straight: 294m

No.- Form- Horse Name (Barrier) Jockey Wgt. Chg. A/S Days Pos API Win Pl. Stakes PFR
1 2317 Fighting Fox (4)" R Markou (a 3.0) 59.5 up 0.5 2/g 9 L 10622 37% 62% $84,975 20
2 x330 Brocky's Ace (8)" P King 55.0 up 1.5 2/f 9 L 6735 20% 60% $33,675 11
3 Kim Seal (10)" S Mc Gruddy 55.0 n/a 2/c - 0 0% 0% n/a
4 3 Star Risca (3)" N Rudland 55.0 --- 2/g 16 M 3600 0% 100% $3,600 9
5 Alchemic (7)" B Parnham (a) 53.5 n/a 2/f - 0 0% 0% n/a
6 Busters Icon (9)" Scratched 53.5 n/a 2/f - 0 0% 0% n/a
7 Fashion Secret (2)" T Turner 53.5 n/a 2/f - 0 0% 0% n/a
8 Lady Chalmers (6)" J Claite 53.5 n/a 2/f - 0 0% 0% n/a
9 Megalithic (5)" W Pike 53.5 n/a 2/f - 0 0% 0% n/a
10 244 Queen Ofthe Breeze (1)" Richard Rhodes (a 3.0) 53.0 dn 3.5 2/f 16 P 3333 0% 33% $10,000 11

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1 Fighting Fox (4) 59.52yo b g (D T McAuliffe at Canning Bridge) R Markou (a 3.0)
Breeding: Eternity Range (USA) - Fimmel Fox (by Canny Lad)
Price: $40,000
Distance: 1000m
Career: $84,975. 8:3-1-1. (W 37% P 62% API 10.6). Wins: 2 (1000), 1 (1100)
Fast: 1:0-0-0. Good: 7:3-1-1. Dead: 0:0-0-0. Slow: 0:0-0-0. Heavy: 0:0-0-0.
This Distance: 4:2-0-0. This Track: 7:3-1-1. First Up: 2:1-0-0. Second Up: 2:1-0-0.

LIKES TO LEAD.............................................. .................................................. ......................R.C.T ...R.C.T ..P.T.P +/-

S 1 8 1 T 1 7-16 6.3L Ascot 8Ap06R05 G2 $504000 56.0(SW) P Harvey 1-Canny Jack 15/2 13 G 1200m 0:34.38 1:10.35 0:58.63 0:57.60 0:58.55SR - Lost a plate.
S 1 8 1 T 1 1-10 1.5L Ascot 1Ap06R01 Open $40000 58.5(53.0) L Robertson 2-Oroya Gold 5/2 4 G 1100m 0:35.93 1:05.41 0:59.46 0:58.90 0:58.90**
S 1 8 1 T 1 3- 7 3.5L Ascot 25Mr06R01 LR $50300 57.0(53.0) L Robertson 1-Canny Jack 5/2 7 G 1100m 0:34.97 1:05.57 0:59.61 0:59.10 0:59.63*
FRESHENED --- (42d) ---
S 2 8 2 T 2 2- 7 0.2L Ascot 11Fe06R01 Open $40000 58.0(53.0) L Robertson 1-Canny Jack 4/7F 2 G 1100m 0:33.22 1:04.78 0:58.89 0:58.30 0:58.33***
S 2 8 - T 2 1-11 2.8L Ascot 4Fe06R01 Open $40000 56.5(53.5) L Robertson 2-Clarecastle 9/2 8 G 1000m 0:58.17 0:58.17 0:58.17 0:58.17***

etc. etc......

I think This thread has proved to be good example to anyone that systems need not be 'exclusive' and not to fear losing a potential 'tremendous' cash cow by whacking up something you have come up with that looks good as a system. All systems hit outs and punters move on to the next shiny thing.

This simple system was turned out with a few guys throwing in a rule each. A Little tweaking to make the rules 'do something and work together constructively as rules' and it ain't the dark or mystical sciences at work. Just a common sense system

Long term there are some problems I see with this system and a few further tweaks are probably in order as some of these selection the system throws up are at the long end of the price range and a quick look at their form would have you throwing them out.

I have mentioned one tweak already I personally would make: dry tracks, but punters here that know some of my personal peccadillo's know I'm terrified of water on a track [I neally drowned in the bath as a kid when I couldn't swim yet], but I think it best that anyone wanting to pursue this or any other system that comes up here is to take the basics and tweak to suit your personal style. If I keep putting up the selections every day, well I'm just providing a free tipping service and achieving nothing [thanks if I'm lucky for lots of leg work] and nor is anyone else who is just using the selections are not exploring their own potential to create and tweak systems for themselves and that includes many forum viewers who ain't members either.

The most important tweak is to keep things simple and don't over-tweak rules or you'll end up on short priced favorites only or one bet a week. Oh, and use a decent form guide, they pay for themselves over and above what they cost. Failing all that, pay for a decent tipping sevice. They have one right here on this forum I hear.

Cheers,
Crash.

Fogot to mention, my tip in the race above: ASCOT R1 -12:15pm is Fighting fox ......lol, lol.