Yellowstone is out !! makes you feel for the connections of the horses that just missed out,, Baughurst might have run a race against these..

Will have to put Nom De jeu in the mix now,,,and i like loyd on the horse,,he'll run over a few to get the horse into the clear as the barrier is a bit of a worry,,
but if the mexicans spread the field out with a good tempo he should find some daylight..

Hey Maverick what are your thoughts re a speed map?

These scratchings are disgusting for this race for these 2 to be out of the race with so long left surely there is some way they can put in a couple of emergencies for this race, with the money on offer all the way back to 10th place it is disgusting for these horses to be scratched this far short of the event.

fellas, im new to this game but i might be of assisstance.
i know they are pretty well the favourites but heres my flexi tri havent worked out which placings as yet where:
1 septimus
2 profound beauty
3 mad rush
4 nom de jeu
5 barbaricus
6 honolulu
7 alassandro volta
the last pick there is one not to discount, known front runner from the UK. if the track gets heavy could hold on for a place!

Hi People welcome..we mugs need all the help we can get

Ok Vomits

I have Barbaricus going forward but he'll let the visiters cross if they really want it,,,,,Alessandro Volta and Honolulu will try and go forward,,,Vareeves will do the same..i even think Boundless will try and go forward from out there,,really has no other chance but to get forward and stick on as hes no chance snagging back..

This gives Mad Rush a good possie behind the speed,,,Septimus will need some sort of cover but he'll be better than midfield,,,Cest La Guerre looks to get a nice run ,,,Profound Beauty will need some luck but i have her midfield on the fence so she'll hope she doesnt get stuck behind some of these slow ones in front..Bauer comes across from out there and will hope to get a good possie better than midfield..

All the others will be back and fighting for good possies,,Zipping will need luck but he'll have horses this time he can follow into the race..Nom De Jeu will need a stack of luck back there but the jockey is a nut so he'll find a way.

I dont see many surprises except i think Honolulu and Alexendra Volta will go forward,,if not str8 away but atleast at the 1/2 way marker ,,
Septimus i dont think has the speed to be handy but he'll look forward and latch onto the back of one his stablemates..
I hope Zipping is back trailing Nom De Jue because this will give him a good cart into it...

Cest La Guerre and Mad rush and Barbaricus get the best runs imo just ahead of Septimus and Bauer..

Yellowstone is now scratched from the Cup.
Anyone for Red Lord?

I am going for big Tri...

Spec, Mad, Zip, NDJ, Red, Bound, Gallop and Barba... 178...
Have to give Ice a miss....

I am going for big Tri...

Spec, Mad, Zip, NDJ, Red, Bound, Gallop and Barba... 168...
Have to give Ice a miss....

As usual this is a tough race to sort out but here goes anyway

1. Septimus: He has a great record for a stayer but alot of it has come in small fields the only time he ran in a big field over a trip he was well beaten in the cerby by Sir Percy, He appears to be a horse that needs to be given alot of galloping room and a pretty one paced grinding type much in the shape of Yeats perfect for English conditions but you have to have a turn of foot to be in the finish in this race, From what I have seen he lacks that I know he won the St.Ledger by 13 lengths but the track was bottomless by all reports and they looked nothing more than glorified cockroaches chasing him. I concede him a place chance but I really doubt he can win this race personally.

2. Master O'Reilly: He is going well but I have my doubts he will run the trip out he couldn't do it last year with no apparent reason other than he may have gone over the top, I concede he could be a chance in the race he does have class but my doubts on him at the trip make it pretty hard for me to include him in my selections.

3. Honolulu: Another one of Aiden O'Briens one pacers by the look of him not a big fan of him although his run in the ebor last year behind Purple Moon would appear to give him a chance in the race. For mine recent form around horses like Geordieland, Distinction and Yeats just isn't good enough for mine to be challenging here think both he and Septimus would need this to be run at an amazingly fast pace to have any chance of pulling this off for mine no thanks.

4. C'est La Guerre: He hasn't had a chance to show his best since getting over here for team williams but he gets his chance in this race he is drawn beatifully and gets one of the best hoops in the world to steer his course. a bit of rain would have been a big bonus for him but there wasn't enough, I do still think he is capable on top of the ground and can really be in the finish with a great run just a matter of whether it is a year to early for him.

5. Nom Du Jeu: He has been my top selection for quite some time and I see no reason to jump off board, alot have questioned his NZ form but please take into account the jockey change which has happened of here he is atleast a 5 length better horse with Jeff Lloyd on his back IMO. Lloyd can really get every ounce out of a horse over the concluding stages and being drawn in might acutally help him from what I hear this morning the is a massive head wind in the straight and gives him the chance to try and get into a slip stream in the straight keeping cover behind other horses untill he needs to pull out and really go for them. My top pick as I said has been since his Derby win he is bred to run the trip on his ear with coupled with his form is enough for me.

6. Yellowstone: SCRATCHED

7. Zipping: He is in form I am happy to concede that but I can't have him he isn't giving me the impression that he is any better than he has been in previous years and he couldn't finish the race out then so I am happy to not be on him.

8. Mad Rush: Great run in the Caulfield Cup drawn beautifully in this with a proven cup jockey on it's back and IMO the best trainer in the world sending him out to top him off. He'll be hard to beat seems to be a very consistent horse always there or there abouts in the finish wouldn't want him at the odds being thrown around now and good luck to anyone who snared there good odds earlier. Definite hope this list is going to be long

9. Ice Chariot: This guy is absolutely flying right now in the best form of his career still I have doubts on him at this level at the trip he could place but I really doubt it top 10 finish is possible for sure.

10. Viewed: This guy needed the heavens to fall apart last night to be a winning chance he is going along solidly and is a place chance without rain however he would shock me a bit if he won the race but who knows how do you ever right off Bart completely in this race (how ironic would i be if Bart won his 250th group 1 in this race)

11. Littorio: I still don't mind this guy he is a big gangly horse needs galloping room and although his last run may have looked disappointing the typical crap sit and sprint races we are seeing so much these days just give him no chance in so many races. I maybe one of the few that doesn't have a big distance doubt on him good jockey on board and he might be the blowout horse if there is one in this race.

12. Bauer: I amnot a big fan of this bloke he might just whack away finish not far off them he just doesn't have the class of a few others.

13. Boundless: She isn't a bad horse but I amnot 100% convinced she wants this trip for mine I don't like her and she won't get consideration from me today.

14. Gallopin: he is a good horse I amnot convinced he wants 3200 he struggled to get past a horse in Baughurst last start who I feel struggles to run out 2500 if your on him good luck but I can't have him.

15. Guyno: Consistent horse this bloke he is always there abouts at the finish has only finished outside of the top 5 twice in his last 20 races and hasn't been beaten anymore than 4 lengths in that time he will just keep whacking away and if your looking for a roughie to include in 1st 4's he might be worth consideration at around $150-1.

16. Zarita: SCRATCHED

17. Newport: He is going along ok and will just keep whacking away should run a decent race but would have to doubt his class here.

18. Profound Beauty: I can't fault this horse at the weights she has been going well at home before coming out here and one of the few euros with a turn of foot, Dermot Weld knows what you need to win the cup out here and she really looks an enormous chance leave her out of your top selections at your own peril she really looks thrown in here.

19. Red Lord: Good luck but no thanks he isn't looking for this trip.

20. Varevees: I am sorry but this thing doesn't appear to going well at all most seem to think her best form was 2 years ago not today.

21. Prize Lady: Another one of these that looks like she'll just keep whacking away but really lacks the class to challenge here.

22. Alessandro Volta: I hear a few tipping this saying it is better than Mahler I don't agree and I can't have it good luck to anyone who is on it though.

23. Barbaricus: this guy is flying but the Lion Hunter thing is enough for me not to like him here I am sorry but if a Lion Hunter sired horse wins this race it would be amazing and unbelievable. Best of luck to all who are on but I can't have him even with the form.

24. Moatize: good luck to bart and claire but I can't have him

1. Nom Du Jeu
2. Profound Beauty
3. C'est La Guerre
4. Mad Rush
5. Littorio
6. Guyno (there is always a roughie there somewhere )

Great summary Raw, cant dissagree with anything you have said there.

My Picks
Nom Du Jeu
Profound Beauty
Littorio
Cest Le Geure
Red Lord (like you say always one rough one in there )