Confectioner....melbourne cup. LOL. Why don;t they run him in the cox and then put him away, there is NO chance repeat NO chance confectioner could run 3200 even if he had 6 legs.

Raw, you wern't referring to me potting plastered? I reckon he is even a bit too brilliant for the melbourne cup despite his trainer being adament that it is an out and out dour stayer. I think he makes a top horse over 2400.

In terms of Vouvray, i don't know what too think. Seems a 'gunna' horse. But she has obviously been set for one race and one race only.

Portland more suited to melbourne cup but a win is not beyond her.

Can't agree with you Duritz RE dizelle. My theory is that shes a bogger. She should go back to sandown and mornington races.

Confectioner won't get a start in the Cox Plate either.

Either the MV Cup, Mackinnon or Dalgety, Sandown Cup.

Despite what has been reported in some media today, I think you will find that Confectioner WILL get a start in the Cox Plate. The CEO of MVRC stated so on radio this morning. Unlike the Caulfield Cup, the Cox Plate is by invitation of the MVRC with just four horses at this stage exempted into the race: Maykbe Diva, Xcellent, Mummify and Lad Of The Manor with the other ten runners plus the three emergencies being at the discretion of the MVRC - unlike handicap races like the Caulfield and Melbourne Cups there are no formal qualifying clauses.

BARRIER DRAW:

8-4.05 CARLTON DRAUGHT CAULFIELD CUP 2400 M
1 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman D Nikolic 20 57
2 RAZKALLA (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor N.Rawiller 18 55
3 FIGHT YOUR CORNER (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor K McEvoy 2 54.5
4 EYE POPPER (JPN) Izumi Shimizu S Fujita 9 54
5 PLASTERED Lindsey Smith P J Harvey 16 54
6 CARTE DIAMOND (USA) Brian Ellison 7 53
7 SIR DEX Gregory Hickman Z Purton 1 53
8 STELLA GRANDE Lee Freedman N Ryan 10 52.5
9 RAILINGS John Hawkes G Childs 12 52
10 DEMERGER Danny O'Brien D Dunn 11 51.5
11 DIZELLE John Hawkes D Beadman 21 51.5
12 HOLLOW BULLET John McArdle S.King 15 51.5
13 PORTLAND SINGA (NZ) Neville McBurney L Cassidy 6 51.5
14 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody S Seamer 14 51.5
15 WILD IRIS Guy Walter G Boss 19 51.5
16 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) Colin Little D Gauci 4 49.5
17 IRISH DARLING Tony Vasil D Moor (a) 3 49.5
18 LEICA FALCON Richard Freyer C.Williams 13 48
19E LACHLAN RIVER (NZ) John Morrisey Steven King 17 51.5
20E NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 8 53
21E BAZELLE (NZ) Paul Jenkins 5 50.5

don't pot confec., he would've won that Caul Cup and he will get 3200.

As much as I like the horse (he's won me money so why wouldn't I like him) there is no evidence to suggest that he could run out a strong 3200m. He has only ever won up to 2000m and has failed at 2400m on two occasions: in one he got beat about ten lengths.

Would be interested to know your reasoning or is it merely just a gut feeling?

Latest Odds from Queesland Tab

EL SEGUNDO $3.40
PLASTERED $5.50
LEICA FALCON $7.00
RAILINGS $11.00
SIR DEX $12.00
VOUVRAY $13.00
DIZELLE $15.00
MUMMIFY $18.00
DEMERGER $21.00
PORTLAND SINGA $21.00
CARTE DIAMOND $31.00
FIGHT YOUR CORNER $31.00
LACHLAN RIVER (1E) $31.00
WILD IRIS $31.00
BAZELLE (3E) $51.00
EYE POPPER $61.00
HOLLOW BULLET $61.00
IRISH DARLING $81.00
RAZKALLA $81.00
STELLA GRANDE $81.00
NATURAL BLITZ (2E) $101.00

Good E/W is Railing and Dizelle

Sir Dex has to be a ****** good chance now drawing 1 he could be sitting about 4th or 5th on the rail behind a solid pace has to be a big show now and at $12-$15 he is good vaule. Tenacious Spirit I wasn't saying you were bagging Plastered just seems that alot of people around the media and on the net are I do disagree with you about him being dour though he does look very one paced to me MC is the race for him to win if he is going to win anything this prep. Also like Portland Singa more now to had to draw a good gate to be a chance in this she could also be sitting in a nice posie now to.

Portland Singa is a massive chance. Huge overs. I've taken $390 the double Portland Singa into Dizelle in the Melbourne today just at the TAB. Huge overs.

As for Confectioner at the 3200, forget his Caulfield Cup run last year. Too bad a run to be indicative. In his other 2400m run, here's the expert form video comment on the run: "Eased, settled down at rear. Even tempo. well back hooked out straightening up, sprint home. Left too much to do." but still ran 4th beaten 3.4, making ground on the line. Then in the mackinnon, over 2000, whilst beaten soundly by Grand Armee he closed best of all for 2nd and thrashed the rest. Also, the way he stretched out the last bit and importantly after the line in the Yalumba indicated he had plenty left for further. Looks to be turning into a big, strong horse not unlike GRand Armee. In fact, is reminding me a lot of that horse now and is rating similarly.

I think the horse should run in the Mackinnon because he would annihilate them. would be the greatest cert of the carnival. However, David Hayes thinks that Confec will be best suited of all in the Melbourne Cup, so he obviously believes it'll get the trip.

All I am saying is that you can't say he won't get 3200 until he tries. To me he will get 2400 comfortably and a horse who does get a strong 2400m and who can settle, is a high class galloper with the ability to quicken, well, if you pot them when they're untried, do so at your own peril.

One who will eat up the trip though is Dizelle. I keep tipping that horse here, I hope some of you take notice because I think it will be a really good bet come Melbourne Cup day. Those who think it's a wet tracker, go back and watch the Turnbull run where she finished 11th, beaten 6 lens, on a dry track. Watch how well it goes. Here's the expert-form video comment of that run: "settled down midfield 4lens rails, got through between horses 3lens turn, bolting, looked a threat, badly checked when going for run 300, lost 4lens. Got going strongly late. Very stiff"

Will be very, very strong in the Melbourne, and very, very hard to beat.