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Old 4th April 2006, 05:05 PM
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TUESDAY 4TH APRIL

MACKA
R7/1 KADINSKI [w $2.72 p $1.22]

ALBANY
R5/4 FLYING CROWN [3nd. $1.75 and almost pinched it]

PORT MACQUIRE
R6/2 SO THE CAT SAID [2nd. $2.70]
R7/8 MAN IN THE MOON [Scr]

Outlay 4 units,. Return 5.67 units. Profit 1.67 unitys.
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Old 5th April 2006, 11:31 AM
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Plenty to get your teeth into here.

SANDOWN HILLSIDE
R2/8 LAST WALTZ
R3/6 EARLY AWAKENING
R6/2 EDGY AFFAIR
R7/10 ANAIS
R8/1 SILK WIND

WAWICK FARM
R3/5 SERIOUS MONEY
R7/7 EL MEROO

BALAKLAVA
R6/4 UNIVERSAL MAN

ASCOT
R3/7 FRED'S METAL
R7/2 TRIBAL WARRIOR
R8/11 STORMED
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Old 6th April 2006, 02:12 AM
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Wed. 5th. April.

SANDOWN HILLSIDE
R2/8 LAST WALTZ
R3/6 EARLY AWAKENING [w$9.36 p4$2.50]
Track downgraded to Dead 4 at the end of R3 and then Slow 6. No more bets here for me.

WAWICK FARM
R3/5 SERIOUS MONEY [w$2.23 p$1.53] win bet
R7/7 EL MEROO

ASCOT
R3/7 FRED'S METAL [w$2.79 p$1.42]
R7/2 TRIBAL WARRIOR
R8/11 STORMED [p$2.10]

BALAKLAVA
R6/4 UNIVERSAL MAN [p$1.74]

Hope some punters are taking e/w bets !!

Place Outlay 8 units. Return 9.29. Profit 1.29 units.
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Old 6th April 2006, 04:42 AM
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I have gone over all my bets here carefully and I have actually made a small loss on place bets. Following the system [page 1] for the first half of the bets was a downer and shaping up to be a slow but growing loss. Handicapping the bets and ignoring the system has improved the return. Not good for system buffs [not the one I used here anyway].

Total Outlay on all place bets has been 89 units.
Total Return has been 83.67. A loss of 5.33 units and considering the amount of 'action' I've had and the fact I am a very inexperienced place punter, I'm happy with the result so far.
Monitoring prices over different bet sites and betting at the last minute would definitely see a decent long term return on outlay here if profit was the sole objective. Monitoring last minute prices however, is not really my cup of tea.

Out of curiosity I have checked the win bets, although I have not been specifically handicapping for the win, just a winning chance and then backing the selections for the place..

Win results have been: 2..27, 6.50, 4.50, 9.36, 2.23, 11.11, 2.79, 2.72, 3.66, 1.72, 3.42, 4.59, 3.14, 13.35, 1.95, 1.64, 3.14, 2.15, 1.96, 9.41, 10.95, 4.00.
Outlay 89 units. Return: 106.56. Profit 17.56 .

So without even specifically handicapping for the win, the win bet is proving to be a better bet overall so far.

As far as Place betting is concerned, handicapping for runners to place only in my opinion would have been a big mistake. I would be considering too many outsiders [poor place odds for their win SP] which seems to be where most place punters are betting. Not a good move as the returns in that area are mostly pitiful when win SP and place SR for these runners is taken into account. Return for the place for w$3/5 SP runners is often more than for w$7/12 SP runners. The difference in SR offers serious loss potential in the above w$7 SP for place and e/w punters [IMHO :-) ].

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Old 6th April 2006, 10:15 AM
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Crash, personally I think you are doing better than you think, as a place bettor I went through some periods of doubt when treading water for months, but I am used to the "long term" pattern now, I've stopped counting how many 4ths I've backed, it all comes out in the wash over a LONG period of time, after a few 1000 bets on the spread sheet, a run of even 5 or 6 losers (very unusual) hardly makes blip on the overall situation.

As you have said many times, a system may have worked for 5 years and maybe not in the next year but then maybe yes the year after etc.

What it all comes down to is how comfortable you feel with your method of betting, in your case I know you enjoy handicapping for the win and that's what you have mastered. I used to do it I'm too much of a gambler at heart, so have to use control betting instead.
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Old 6th April 2006, 10:48 AM
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Plenty of 'control' here Party [not mine], The handbrake thumps me with a few of her Karate body blows [leaves no marks] regularly just to remind me of it !!

Actually as an inexperienced place punter I'm quite happy with the results so far and oh I still win bet don't worry about that and have had some very good collects from all the selections here so far, without skiteing about them every time they come up.

Thursday 6th April

GOSFORD

R1/2 SECRET TOM
R2/1 GLOBAL CROSSING
R7/6 BLUE PATRIACH
R8/1 COUNT OF EIGHT

Might be a few fro WA later. I'll have a peek after lunch if I have time.
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Old 6th April 2006, 04:30 PM
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Thursday 6th April

GOSFORD

R1/2 SECRET TOM [p1.85]
R2/1 GLOBAL CROSSING [unp]
R7/6 BLUE PATRIACH [unp]
R8/1 COUNT OF EIGHT [unp]

Not a good day with strong winds barreling down the course not helping.

Outlay 4 units Return 1.85 Loss 2.15

Roll on Sat.
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Old 7th April 2006, 12:16 PM
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No tips today with rain affected tracks and very strong winds where they are dry.

Tomorrow will have some goodies worth looking at and hopefully make up some units after a lousy day yesterday.
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Saturday 8th. April.

Today I'm concentrating on the good place money available in the black tie races.
All the other metro tracks look stuffed weather wise. Lets see how we go:

ROSEHILL
R1/3 DANIELS THE MAN
R2/6 DENMARKET
R3/5 SEPIA [E/W?]
R4/12 AQUA D'AMORE
R6/1 PATEZZA
R7/2 CASINO PRINCE
R8/1 LOTTERIA
R9/4 MINDREADER

Tight reigns and good punting.
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Old 8th April 2006, 06:51 AM
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A few more to make an action packed day of it !

ASCOT
8/10 MAGIC HALL

CHELTENHAM [for good or dead track]
R5/13 BROCKERMAN'S LASS
R8/7 DENNING

MOONEE VALLEY [for good or dead track]
R1/3 VIRVACITY [hurdle]
R3/7 WINGS ON FIRE
R6/10 STRADDLE
R9/16 BEXAAR

Some decent odds among these. Maybe worth an e/w ticket on anything here with odds.
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