Hi Mg, good to see you are back on track with this.

Are you still placing with success, too?

I have had some success on this front as well of late, but find that rather than targeting a 'place chance' (if there is such a thing), it is more profitable to target the best value pick of the top chances - seems to bring home a reasonable place divi.


LG

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Hi Michaelg,
I have found with any high priced lay plan , that stronger results are to be had if one only targets races with 11+ runners.

Any less & anything can fluke a win.

Also try not to lay any runner that has not run before.
They have a habit of surprising.

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Cheers.

Hi, L.G.

I no longer bet the Place method because my interest is dead at the moment, only focusing on Laying. But that may change.

Bhagwan, yes, the results are not too bad with the larger fields but the smiles produce only a very small profit.

However, since Sun 1/4 I've been closely looking at 11 and under fields because I'm strongly under the impression the value is better when laying outsiders in these smaller fields.

I'm using a method with only two filters. Since 1/4 there's been 122 smiles from 122 selections, and only one smile ran third. My bets have become quite large and am profiting between $50 and $100 per day. The only drawback is that I have to be at the computer.

Thats great if you have found a filter that seems to work.

That's a pretty good test so far.

Especially being <=11 runners

The average price will usually be more attractive, due to being a smaller field.

I usually like to see these stats in groups of 150 bets, so as to have a broader picture.

Another rule that I find that works well with this idea ...
Min price has to be >= 5.00
Because sometimes they can end up being 1st or 2nd Fav in live market, then go on to win.

So far, it appears to be producing some fine results.


Can you say at this stage Michaelg what the filters are?

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Cheers.

Bhagwan, at this time I'd prefer not to reveal them. - sorry. However if they continue to perform and you are still interested I'll give you the rules privately.

It currently has a 100% success rate in the U.S. and U.K but because of the rules it makes it somewhat difficult to identify the selections, and I have to make an "educated " guess.

Out of interest, laying yesterday's twelve selections for a liability of $33 produced a profit of $8.00. And backing them for $1.00 on Unitab also produced a profit, of $10.40

Today's selections are:

Ballarat
5/8
6/1
8/15

Hawkesbury
5/4

Sun Coast
2/9
3/4
7/10

Kalgoorlie
1/1
3/3
4/13
7/3

Kalgoorlie 7/3 is scratched. The replacement selection is no.1.

Not a bad day. There were 10 smiles from 11 selections for a profit of $26.12.

Today's selections are:

Canterbury
5/12
7/8

Cranbourne
3/7
6/8

Geelong
8/5

Ipswich
5/5

Canberra
2/10

A losing day. There was an accident from the 7 selections for a loss of $11.24.

After three days there have been 26 smiles from 30 selections for a profit of $22.88.