40/60 staking rule I get
40 units win/60 units place
I done this very quickly and not checked for accuracy, but well in front.
Credit Testa, nice system
the copy and paste on this forum has me stuffed, but I think if one copy and past this in spreadsheet and do the formula it should work out ok
Longest loosing streak though was 10
cost profit
10000 6788



Paid win Paid plce Bet w Bet pl Cost Rtn w Rtn pl Net Streaks
R1 (9) Birubianice – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (8) Teleprint - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (17) Buck’s Secret – 1st, $34.20, $6.60 34.2 6.6 40 60 100 1368 396 1664 0
R2 (9) Northgate Street - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (18) Monkeypicken – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R3 (9) I’ll Have Fun – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R3 (12) Len’s Gold – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R3 (2) Clear Intent – 2nd, $3.40 0 3.4 40 60 100 0 204 104 0
R9 (5) Kenny’s Rainbow – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R9 (8) Vice Admiral – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R3 (3) Plaudere – 2nd, $2.70 0 2.7 40 60 100 0 162 62 0
R3 (5) Captain Aubrey – 1st, $13.40, $3.50 13.4 3.5 40 60 100 536 210 646 0
R2 (7) Dr Gee – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (9) Royal Risca – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R3 (1) Bud’s Boy – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R3 (4) Duel In The Sun – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R1 (1) I’m A Bandit – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 5
R8 (5) James Blonde – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 6
R2 (7) Houston Calling – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 7
R2 (17) Oriana – 1st, $19.10, $4.50 19.1 4.5 40 60 100 764 270 934 0
R2 (2) Mates Rates – 2nd, $9.20 0 9.2 40 60 100 0 552 452 0
R2 (9) Bobbie Deegs – 1st, $12.80, $2.70 12.8 2.7 40 60 100 512 162 574 0
R2 (12) Oceanic Belle – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (5) Chigwidden – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R3 (6) Hurricane City – 3rd, $2.10 0 2.1 40 60 100 0 126 26 0
R6 (6) Hilly – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R1 (8) Red Sceptre – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R1 (13) Classic Chevron – 3rd, $2.00 0 2 40 60 100 0 120 20 0
R2 (6) Thorbey - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (8) Leeds United – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (12) Royal Showman – 1st, $9.60, $3.10 9.6 3.1 40 60 100 384 186 470 0
R2 (1) Tropiqualo – 2nd, $2.70 0 2.7 40 60 100 0 162 62 0
R2 (6) Craiglea Warrior – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (4) Odalisk – 3rd, $3.70 0 3.7 40 60 100 0 222 122 0
R1 (12) Staresque - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (6) Spy Game – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R7 (5) Prince Of Time - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R3 (9) His Worship – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R4 (2) Geiger Way - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 5
R1 (1) Triple It Will – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 6
R1 (6) Cinque Bella Donna - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 7
R7 (5) Great Drop - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 8
R7 (7) Reckless Jester - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 9
R1 (15) Honour Your Lady – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 10
R4 (10) Duchess Of Time – 3rd, $5.60. 0 5.6 40 60 100 0 336 236 0
R2 (6) Grasjar – 3rd, $2.80 0 2.8 40 60 100 0 168 68 0
R1 (1) Madame Joy – 3rd, $1.80 0 1.8 40 60 100 0 108 8 0
R1 (6) Lady Canny – 2nd, NPP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (7) Charlie’s Legacy – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (10) Gone For Glory – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R4 (6) Crystal Express – 3rd, $2.20 0 2.2 40 60 100 0 132 32 0
R1 (11) Jonoble – 1st, $10.20, $2.30 10.2 2.3 40 60 100 408 138 446 0
R2 (4) Onus – 4th. 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R1 (8) Starzami – 1st, $10.20, $2.10 10.2 2.1 40 60 100 408 126 434 0
R2 (4) Bella Futura – 4th 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (5) Disco Slacks – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R7 (1) Edison –1st, $28.60, $6.40 28.6 6.4 40 60 100 1144 384 1428 0
R7 (6) Dendy Walk – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (9) Coded – 1st, $29.00, $5.80 29 5.8 40 60 100 1160 348 1408 0
R2 (6) One Small Step – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (12) Zamurd – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (6) Apples – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R2 (8) Weeping Willow – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R3 (5) Nina Belle – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 5
R3 (7) She’s Striking – 1st, $10.90, $3.10 10.9 3.1 40 60 100 436 186 522 0
R3 (12) La Speranza – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R3 (1) Bobbafet – 2nd, $12.50 0 12.5 40 60 100 0 750 650 0
R5 (4) Pegunny Jake 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R1 (6) Roxbury Hall – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R4 (8) Tract – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R4 (12) Meddling Magpie - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R3 (6) Broc's River – 1st, $8.30, $3.00 8.3 3 40 60 100 332 180 412 0
R3 (6) Longstone – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R4 (4) Skinstad – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R4 (15) Blushing Maizy – 3rd, $11.10 0 11.1 40 60 100 0 666 566 0
R4 (4) Mr Balinchy – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R9 (10) Little Darling – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (2) Dreja – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R8 (8) Daring Echo – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R3 (14) Moneypicken – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 5
R3 (6) Slashers Creek – 3rd, $1.60 0 1.6 40 60 100 0 96 -4 0
R5 (10) Sudan Silk - $2.70 0 2.7 40 60 100 0 162 62 0
R2 (4) Champony – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (8) Neurology – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (16) Kaoru Square – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R5 (8) Mr Brisvegas – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R5 (12) Hello Cyrstal – 3rd, $4.40 0 4.4 40 60 100 0 264 164 0
R2 (1) Brocanteur – 1st, $37.80, $5.20 37.8 5.2 40 60 100 1512 312 1724 0
R4 (3) Tsear – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R2 (5) Red Car Express – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (6) Vice Admiral – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R1 (13) Star Of Fashion – 3rd, $3.50. 0 3.5 40 60 100 0 210 110 0
R4 (9) Petite Fraar - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R4 (16) Real Live Woman - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R5 (11) Oransay – 1st, $8.40, $2.50. 8.4 2.5 40 60 100 336 150 386 0
R1 (2) Carlton Caper – UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 1
R1 (8) Silent Street - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 2
R2 (2) Baudolino - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 3
R2 (4) English Oak - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 4
R5 (11) Mechanical Fan - UNP 0 0 40 60 100 0 0 -100 5
Selections - 101 10000 6788

Nice work Puntz. Have you figured out the 2 missing rules ?

Mark,

I hope you are right, but the views went
through the roof yesterday. Only time will tell I guess.

Cheers.

[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-27 02:08 ]

Crash,
To be honest, no.
I use a much simpler method of selections
that utilizes the other 9/4 staking plan which sustains 11 consecutive losses @ 115 units.
Therefore not so savvy on what to look for cos I have stuck to one method of selection for years.
It works, it ain't broke so why fix-it !! ?
Just like the rule in the 9/4 staking plan say's
"Good for the not so long shot type selection system".

The 9/4 plan could be a bit risky with testa's selections cos there was a run of 10 outs.
One more loss and the 115 units would have vanished.
However, I'll do another calculation with the 9/4 staking method and see what happens when time permits.

Puntz,

Ah, 40/60 !! Now I get where you were coming from in that other thread.

Your right about the outs and also it is worth remembering that only 4 winners accounted for most of the profit. Would have to keep getting those biggies to stay on top.

Still, this is a fascinating system of Test's, not that it has worked [so far], but why it has worked at all ? Hard to see any handicapping rhyme or reason to it [?].

Cheers.


[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-27 09:23 ]

Crash,
This was a point I try to make.
OK, so we have testa's selection results, all posted for all to see. It was too easy to sit back, type in a spreadsheet,then look at the profit/loss sum, and easy to say, "yeah this will work"
But in the real world, if one is REALY on the 10th bet after 9 loses..do you think it's as easy as sitting behind a keyboard and due to "past results" it will win like in some utopia-matic..
I don't think so..emotions are one of the major, if not THE major hurdles to get by on the punt.


[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2004-02-27 11:17 ]

Puntz,

I spotted the 60/40 typo and was correcting it about the time you were writing.

Yes, the good ol' real world can quickly become a scary place. I hope there was no gusto betting yesterday on the loosing streak. Today's betting will be very timid, yet the system might be on fire !!!

Cheers.

Fridays Selections after scratchings:

Ararat

R2 (4) Sea Tern
R8 (3) Dream Luck
R8 (11) Just Leica

Doomben

R3 (5) Riotous
R3 (7) Templin

Grafton

R5 (3) Te Rapa Boy
R5 (11) Emanjaya

Penola

R2 (5) Avon’s Magic

Cheers.

Thats correct Sportz.



I believe there is a reason it has worked (so far) and that is that obviously if a selection started at 9-1 or better in its first lifetime start, it MIGHT have some ability.

That brings us to the 1st or 2nd up rule, which i believe gives the trainer a chance of producing the horse in much better shape then its 1st start, how often have we seen an average/good 2yo come out 1st up as a 3yo and become a very good 3yo+ horse.

The under 10 starts rule is pretty obvious, we don't want to be backing maidens who haven't won after that many chances, and the 8-1 or above starting price is obvious as well, don't want to be backing maidens that get to short.

Cheers.

Testa...

here again is my subset of your version. Yesterday there was 2 qualifiers without luck.. so here goes for today..

Our Maizcay's Testarossa Maidens Part One:
Penola: Race 2 #5 Avon's Magic
Grafton: Race 5 #3 Te Rapa Boy
Doomben: Race 3 #7 Templin
Ararat: Race 2 #4 Sea Tern
Ararat: Race 8 #11 Just Leica

Our Maizcay's Testarossa Maidens Part Two:
Penola: Race 2 #5 Avon's Magic
Grafton: Race 5 #3 Te Rapa Boy
Doomben: Race 3 #5 Riotous
Ararat: Race 8 #11 Just Leica

I'm a little late on these, but only one has run to date ... Sea Tern, but it didn't qualify as it was paying around $5.00.

Good Luck,

OM

Templin definitely WON'T be $8 or better. The way they were talking about this one on Radiotab this morning, I think it'll probably be short priced favourite!