Sometimes my selection is the Favourite like on saturday i selected Umbula ,Casino Knight
Feather Duster ect.
I study a race and if i like a value runner i mark it.
i then look at the likely Fav and if i think thats the main danger i bet.
If the fav looks to good then i'll back it instead.
Yesterday for instance Crackerjacks hope was about 25's but i also thought Maizcay Magic was the threat..Also in the next Lion Queen was always going to be the danger to Miss Alyta.
Saturday was just a bit fun. Most of those races i had my selection and whoever was the market fav..
On Saturday at the Gold coast i had Carlita Miss as fav but it probably started on the third line..also Consular i thought would of been Fav but i'm pretty sure Tellem ended up shorter.
The whole "bet if i like the Fav as the danger" thing as proven on Saturday is probably a whole waste of time.
But as pointed out by Mr Ed sometimes Favs are favs for no other reason than say waterhouse is training it or Beadmans riding it..we've all heard of the Beadman factor..

just before jump if i haven't selected the fav prio.

sportznut can you email me
mav1993@hotmail.com
i want to ask you a couple of things
Thanks

[ This Message was edited by: Maverick1993 on 2004-07-26 18:25 ]

Your looking good Maverick,

I would like to see you go through this thread and work out exactly how much you have spent on your selection, favorites, and trifes (if your selection is the fave then include all money as your selection), then work out the return from the three. From here you can see if all three modes of betting are profitable and hence therefore neccessary. I can see that on a day to day basis having the three fallbacks can reduce your losses but on your good days they are also reducing your profits. If you go back and see you are running at a loss from the favourite (savers) why not scrap them. Just food for thought but it is widely understood that if you back favorites in every race you will end up losing and i cant help but think that if you are consistently using the fave to save this factor will occur in your system. You mentioned how long you spend studying the form and i would hate to see alot of that time wasted on savers that are unnecessary in the long run.

But as i say you are going splendidly and you may find all three betting modes are neccessary, just having my two bobs worth.

Cheers Ed

Hi Mr ed

here are some rough figures
My Selections 9600 return 11000
favourites 4700 return 5600
trifectas 7000 return 11000

The tifecta figures are acurate because i always bet 30 so that was easy
With the My selction and fav figures these are from probabaly the 2ndweek in when i started to realise i should be keeping more acurate figures.
I'm going to keep more acurate records form now on things and include
The length of the races.
How many runners.
what sort of race as well.

The favs seem to be doing ok . Maybe i should be saying the "more Fancied runner" than the favourite because in some races i'm not backing the actual market Fav...
eg..On Saturday Tellem ran fav but unproven at the distance and with Consular and Deuixeme proven and in form that made no sense to me..
i probably filter out some of those favs so my strikerate is better.

The trifectas is what has proven very succesful.
any ideas you have Mr Ed is more than welcome..i''m still a novice at this stuff :smile:

Selections Today
Echuca
R1. 13 whitier Miss 25
Fav 1 Blixter 45
Tri 30 (no Correctional)
Blixtar 105

R6. 1 Swan Hill 70 (Fav)
tri 30 (no lord hatton on top)

R3. 3 Go Bendigo fav 70
Tri 30
1-3
1-3-4-6-7-12-13
result 1/3/7
tri 150

R9. 11 No Tarnish 40
fav Loa Lani 30
tri 30 (no Easy Baby on top)

Rocky
R2. 1 regimental fav 70 (1st)
Tri 30
Regimental 140
tri 15

R3. 1 Cha Cha Charlie Fav 70 (1st)
tri 30
Cha Cha 130
tri 12

R4. 4 Capenelle 20 (1st)
Fav 1 BooBoo 50
Tri 30
Capenelle 110
tri 11

R7. 11 Pamela Jane 35
Fav 3 Victory Siren 35
tri 30
3-5-11
2-3-5-6-8-11
result 3/5/11
Vicory Siren 105
Tri 113

Outlay today 800
returns 761
loss today 39

bank now 5936.50

The trifectas let me down today in Rocky getting all four but they all payed next to nothing..Also the Last in Echuca i changed the trifecta when Easy Baby blew out..and of course it won and would of been a nice trifecta.
Pamela Jane would of been nice at juicy odds
..




[ This Message was edited by: Maverick1993 on 2004-07-27 18:14 ]

[ This Message was edited by: maverick1993 on 2004-07-27 18:18 ]

Selctections Today
Warrick Farm
R1. 7 Sutton review 15
Fav 3 Canny Princess 55
tri 30
1-3-7
1-3-4-5-7-8
result 3/1/7
Tri 15
Canny princess 105

R2. 2 Micheal de Dragon (3rd) 40
Fav 3 Bellarouge 30
Tri 30 (no For Vallour)

R4. 7 Nordic Emperor 35
Fav 6 wicked wizard 35
tri 30
6-7-9
1-4-5-6-7-9
result 9/1/7
tri 80

R6. 1 Evilina * fav 70
Tri 30 (no cellar edition on top )

R7. 9 King Fuji 35
Fav 4 Amish 35
Tri 30
1-4-9
1-4-9-5-6-11
result 1/4/9
tri 110

Sandown
R1. 4 Tendue 35
Fav 3 Astrodame 35
tri 30 (no 5 Al wara on top)

R3. 6 Moksha (2nd)35
Fav 1 evil master 35
tri 30 (no Belgrade)

R4. 2 Roedean 50
Fav 7 Glenbawn 20
Tri 30 (No bella jinski ontop)

R5. 8 Nicholas (3rd)45
Fav 9 paddy william 25
tri 30 (no berick atack)

R6. 5 Zabexpress 40
fav 7 waitermu 30
Tri 30 (no Korcular)

R7. 3 Hunter Hermitage 30
fav 2 double classic 40
tri 30
2-3-4
2-3-4-9-10-11
result 4/9/11
tri 200

eagle Farm
R1. 15 Hip Hop Anonymous 35
Fav 3 partying 35
tri 30
4-3-15
4-3-15-1-2-12
result 4/1/3
tri 65

R2. 10 Son of Dane 2nd 35
Fav 2 splendid sails 35
tri 30
10-2-1
10-2-1-11-5-6
result 1/10/2
tri 170

R4. 11 Sighing 35
Fav 4 delago dumper 35
tri 30 (No Apian rule on top)

R5. 2 desert Money 40
Fav 6 diamond bullet 30
tri 30 (No Miss Jones)

R6. 8 Tax dodge 45
Fav 2 comon Knowledgs 25
tri 30 (no lielve)
common knowledge 120

R7. 6 Dream'n Scheme 35
Fav 4 triple pe 35
Tri 30 (no mt gower on top)

Balaklava
R2. 3 Bromide 30
Fav 1 silk wind 40
tri 30
1-3-5
1-3-5-8-9-10
result 3/1/10
bromide 170
tri 160

R4. 6 Bellona 70
tri 30
6-4
6-4-2-3-8-11-7
result 6/2/7
tri 100
bellona 150

R5. 5 Tic Toc Tac fav 70 (2nd)
tri 30 (no pageant night)

R6. 5 BelDe Ferro fav 70
tri 30
1-4-5
1-4-5-2-7-8
result 1/6/4
tri 130

R7. 4 Spinning Eagle fav 70
tri 30
3-4
3-4-2-1-5-6-9
result
spinning eagle 250

outlay 2200
returns 1825
loss today 375

only picked 3 winners out of 22 selections..
a shocking day..a couple of unlucky 2nds and missing some healthy tris by a wisker..





ont size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: maverick1993 on 2004-07-28 12:02 ]

[ This Message was edited by: Maverick1993 on 2004-07-28 17:24 ]

Here's one for you - Northam R8 number 1 and it's got a good chance too.

Selections today
Townsville
R1. 3 Rockets of gold 40
Fav 1 Ror Harvest
Tri 30
1-2-3
1-2-3-6-9-10
result 2/10/6
tri 615

R2. 7 Enduis 35
Fav 2 Koala 35
Tri 30 (no dartbrook king)
koal 110

R4. 11 Gold tusmani 45
Fav 5 Luberon 25
Tri 30 (no unbridled love)

R5. 10 Stormy Blue 45
Fav 6 Gazzam 25
Tri 30
10-6-3
10-6-3-1-9-4
result 10/3/6
stormy blue 470
tri 50

R7. 10 granton 50
fav 1 peaceful missile 20
Tri 30 (no Mulligan on top)

Gosford
R4 10 Wonder dane 20
fav 1 bryanca 50
tri 30
1-10-3
5-9-8-1-10-3
result 1/5/3
bryanca 135
tri 15

R7. 13 Yum Yum fav 70
tri 30
13-10
13-10-6-11-9-2-3
result 10/6/3
tri 440

R8. 9 Sri Khan 45
fav 1 catcher 25
tri 30
1-9-2
1-9-2-3-5-7
result 9/1/2
Sri Khan 900
tri 440

R10. 3 Catchadane fav 70
tri 30 (no sweet mustard)

Cranborne
R3. 4 Kingston Bird 70
Tri 30
4-14
4-14-7-6-9-11-1
result 4/14/7
kingston bird 220
tri 50

R5. 1 classic Benbara fav 70
tri 30
1-6
1-6-5-7-9-10-11
result 1/7/5
Benbarra 230
tri 20

R6. 4 Eye for an Eye fav 70
Tri 30 (no vulcan on top)

R8. 8 Yik yak 50
fav 3 Turutga 20
Tri 30 (no wonderman)

outlay today 1300
returns 3695
profit today 2395

bank now 7956.50





[ This Message was edited by: maverick1993 on 2004-07-29 18:32 ]

[ This Message was edited by: maverick1993 on 2004-07-29 18:34 ]

mav,

Nice selection in GOSFORD NR8 Sri Khan came 1st paying 18.90/4.50 on unitab.