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Old 22nd June 2006, 03:46 PM
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Old 22nd June 2006, 03:53 PM
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Bordi you are in the serious minority here. you keep saying she won the few races she was trained for - and i say again, so did the 14 horses above her. she had a weaker strike rate than all of the horses above her (and yes some of them were stayers too)
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Old 22nd June 2006, 04:04 PM
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Can't see her feat being repeated any time soon. Melbourne Cups aren't just average staying handicaps won by slow plodders any more. Generally takes a pretty classy horse to win one these days. And it takes a BRILLIANT horse to win 3 straight!!!
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Old 22nd June 2006, 04:12 PM
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well said sportz....


minority u say? say wat u like.... the facts are on the table. she won more prize money then any other horse in australian history (grossed up to take into account inflation and race money also) she broke many many many records including record time in aus cup, 3 melb cups, cox- melb double in the one year, weight carrying records... and plenty more. The basic fact is this... she has done what no other in history has...........
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Old 22nd June 2006, 04:18 PM
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Kingston Town would have picked her up and carried her over 2000m. Every professional that I know of rate the Cox Plate a far superior race to the Melbourne Cup.

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Old 22nd June 2006, 05:03 PM
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Bordi I don't whether I need to ask the question but what is your top 10 horses you have done nothing but bag evryone elses opinion so how about putting it out there for everyone else to have a go at.

She was a great horse but she wasn't the best how could anyone say anything is better than anything else until the day they invent a time machine and can race all the best horses over time against eachother at peek fitness in the best of conditions the maybe someone can argue one is better than the other.

As far as the prize money thing goes well they have done Pharlaps career earnings using the figures from the year 2000 and he actually won more prize money than she did when it is done like that. Kingston Town would be right up there I imagine aswell with 3 Cox Plates at todays rates to go with all the other races he won.

This is all one persons opinion everyone has there own I personally think Starcraft was as good a miler as I have seen race and most people do not share that opinion, The problem was that most of Australia hated the horse probably firstly because he was a Queenslander and secondly because of the owner, However I do give him alot of credit he did things other owners wouldn't do and in my opinion when Starcraft went to the UK and won he did more for Australian racing than anyone before him he beat the poms at a distance they like to think they have very good horses at where as it has always been questioned that there sprinters are truly world class still Choisir's feats should never be knocked either.
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Old 22nd June 2006, 05:11 PM
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Exactly raw.

Bordi, the challenge is there. post your top 10 and see what everyone says
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Old 22nd June 2006, 07:37 PM
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As Raw said, it's damn hard to compare horses of different eras, and thumbs up to Chuck for having a go. For what it's worth, this would be my top 10:

01 - PHAR LAP
02 - TULLOCH
03 - KINGSTON TOWN
04 - BERNBOROUGH
05 - CARBINE
06 - MAKYBE DIVA
07 - MANIKATO
08 - MIGHT AND POWER
09 - PETER PAN
10 - RISING FAST
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Old 22nd June 2006, 07:45 PM
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raw - what about poor old Reset? 5 wins from 5 (including G1s Cadbury Guineas and Futurity Stks) before sold to stud....and it beat Starcraft twice
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Old 22nd June 2006, 07:45 PM
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This is mine for the record. As stated it's only one man's opinion so chill out Bordi ; )

1. Tulloch
2. Phar Lap
3. Northerly
4. Kingston Town
5. Sunline
6. Tobin Bronze
7. Bernborough
8. Rising Fast
9. Manikato
10. Might and Power
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