Hi CP,

Gotcha, they need to be meeting certain criteria before you add them. Agree here with Rain Affair, from memory, or thinking back through most of his runs, i can only remember once he has been ridden off the pace(maybe more, just cant remember), and he gathered them in fairly quickly, whether they were an ordinary bunch, or he missed the kick, or whatever, id like to see him ridden off the leaders. The trainer seems to think otherwise as he has been quoted often as saying he just wont settle when ridden patiently. Maybe a hugh bowman might suit the horse. If he ever did get that service, the horses stride you would almost definitely see come into play, because when he highball's it in front he sits at that high tempo cruising speed, and its a bit difficult to see the actual stride, so i think if he could settle, and then have the jock work him into it from the 600, you would see his stride once opened up start coming into play at the 400, which would probably see him gather them in at the 200 which would then pending on the others could see the jock get to the bottom of him.

A lot to like about Elite Elle, and saw her striding freely from the 400-200, when she put a couple on them, possibly the drop in class masked the win, but the stride was there to see.

Well done mate- keep it up.

Best TJ

Montgomery runs in The Australian Hurdle R2 Sandown tomorrow.

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Yup. Someone already up on the rooftops?

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Montgomery ran 2nd earning $19,000 for the stable.
Think the last jump cost him dearly as he he jumped it awkwardly.

So far the "stable" has had seven starts for three winners, two seconds, one third and earned $241,250 in prizemoney.
Betting action is plus 2.19 units. 31.29% POT

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Adding to the Stable of striders:
Bonne Nuit
Cauthen
Elite Elle
Flash Of Doubt
Forever Love
Danas Best
Gregers
Henwood
Honorius
Montgomery
Octavia
Pakal
Photon Willie
Puissance De Lune
Rain Affair
Rebel Dane
Recycle Prince
Surpass*
That's A Good Idea

Just one shy of the full stable to follow

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You might need an extension to this stable of yours, out back of castle. Do you think it might be an idea to back them until they win then book then in for a 'spell'?

LG

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LG, I might miss out on the repeat winners then!
I've identified these horses as being able to maintain good stride rather than a glimpse of a stride. Ergo, I think that this stable contains some very good Group horses. The value is generally not in the next run, as every man and his dog are clambering to get on, but rather the next few runs after I notice.

From a punting perspective still in slight profit, but from an owning, training perspective picked up nearly $250k in prizemoney by picking horses with good stride only in less than a month.

So I'm very happy with the way it's going.

Drawing up the plans for extension as we speak

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I see surpass added, didn't that horse extend today, he made them look like maidens and they weren't the worst bunch.

Surpass really was the run of the day TJ. Nice long stride, gathered them in like they were standing still, and maintained that stride right to the line.
I've got a few on the list, I can't wait to see in action again.

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Makes you wonder if this might be an exotic offering in the future? i.e. you buy a 'share' in a horse(its winnings) for a given race or carnival and share digitally in the 'prizemoney' it wins OR perhaps in the actual underlying winnings on the track less a share of the overheads in getting it the barrier? It would be like buying into an OTC derivative which yields a cash return based on the outcome of an event in the real world.

It's about time the corporates came up with something a little more innovative to make them stand out from the crowded market online and/or tote - something a little more exciting than features like 'protest payouts' and naming your own odds. Both have their merits but neither particularly spins my fun dials!

LG

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