That's a fair synopsis, what put him down in the ratings with me was the low API and last run prizemoney compared to the rest of the runners. That's not to say he's not a capable type, but I don't like digging too far back into a horse's past.

It's all academic anyway, as they'll probably run the quinella now and we won't be on it

Well done to those who had Mahtoum in their 5! I only had it rated 8th.

This week:
zorro (67.5 + 62.5) 130 pts
QuickFunBet (77.5 + 40) 117.5 pts
La Mer (87.5 + 25) 112.5 pts
Filante (85 + 25) 110 pts
Top Rank (87.5 + 20) 107.5 pts
Sportz (77.5 + 22.5) 100 pts
Dr Ron (70 + 25) 95 pts
Duritz (47.5 + 35) 82.5 pts
Shaun (60 + 12.5) 72.5 pts
Heavyweight (50 + 17.5) 67.5 pts
ubetido (57.5 + 10) 67.5 pts
xpt driver (45 + 15) 60 pts
The mug (40 + 17.5) 57.5 pts
Jimmy (30 + 20) 50 pts
Chrome Prince (25 + 15) 40 pts

Overall:
Sportz 450 pts
Filante 417.5 pts
La Mer 412.5 pts
zorro 400 pts
Top Rank 372.5 pts
Jimmy 355 pts
Duritz 352.5 pts
QuickFunBet 342.5 pts
Heavyweight 330 pts
xpt driver 312.5 pts
Shaun 292.5 pts
Dr Ron 280 pts
ubetido 280 pts
Chrome Prince 277.5 pts
The mug 270 pts

Well done guys.....I'll slink off to a dark corner now

Chrome..
I might join you in the corner..I'm the only one holding you up down their...

I think i need a hug!!

Good tipping guys.

Chrome,

You'll be back next week. There's nothing as hardy as a punter, unbreakable.
Back on the horse, young man.

Good Punting

Hi Top Rank

Sorry for answering you a bit late but to answer your question jameison valley would provide me with a high rating irrespective of anything else. The question is take it or leave it. In this case the market was right.

However this horse was pretty good in its earlier days. There had been a switch of trainer. Racing first up is an unknown but at times these have got up at big odds when not expected. Had recently just been beaten in a trial.

So in all i would've thrown it in. I don't normally price my horses so i wouldn't put too much credence in my odds.

Sometimes theres a bees knacker between and making a decision and switching can be costly at times on the last two occassion (Irish Crusader/Mahatoum have been the sixth rater a bees knacker in difference from the 5th rater.

So i just go with whatever the rating spits out. I just don't have the time to study the form as closely as some on the forum.

Just as a observation when races are 1400m or more and you have fresh or first up horses and they rate well it is generally hard to get them as winners due to fitness i reckon. Up to 1200m its ok.

All the best
ubetido

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Okay, here's this week's two races. I usually prefer to use open races, but after looking at the fields, I think Caulfield R4 (3YO) is a more suitable race this week.

CAULFIELD R4 - WELLINGTON R.C. STAKES 1400 M ($75750) 3YO SWP (listed)
1 ECONSUL (NZ) Graeme Rogerson D Nikolic 5 58
2 TIRADE Mathew Ellerton N Ryan (a) 4 58
3 CLASSICONI Shane Fliedner G Childs 9 58
4 ZANKEL (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith V Hall 10 58
5 WILDLY Rick Hore-Lacy M Flaherty 2 57.5
6 PROCESSOR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson S W Arnold 7 56.5
7 NICONERO Tony McEvoy N Rawiller 1 56.5
8 TRULY WICKED Brian Mayfield-Smith S Baster 13 55.5
9 SHINZIG Chris Waller Steven King 3 54.5
10 VOLITANT Michael Hibbs B Shinn (a) 8 54.5
11 CAPTIOUS (NZ) Mick Price 15 54.5
12 BROMIDE John Hawkes D Gauci 6 54.5
13 PAPPAGALLO Ross McDonald 11 54.5
14 TALONS SHOWN Lee Freedman D Oliver 12 54
15 ASTRODAME Brian Mayfield-Smith 14 53

CAULFIELD R5 - C.F. ORR STAKES 1400 M ($302000) WFA (Group1)
1 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil N Rawiller 15 58
2 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman N Ryan (a) 10 58
3 PENTASTIC Colin Alderson B Shinn (a) 8 58
4 MR. MURPHY Lee Freedman 7 58
5 REGAL ROLLER Clinton McDonald M Flaherty 6 58
6 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison D Dunn 5 58
7 CASUAL PASS Mathew Ellerton V Hall 3 58
8 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted B E Johns 9 58
9 RIZON Cliff Brown G Childs 1 58
10 PRETORIUS (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith S Baster 11 58
11 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman Steven King 4 55.5
12 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody L Nolen 13 55.5
13 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson D Nikolic 12 54.5
14 NOT A SINGLE DOUBT Tony Vasil S W Arnold 14 54.5
15 DANEHILL EXPRESS Brian Mayfield-Smith D Oliver 2 54.5

Good luck!

Good choices Sportz.
I was only going to look at 3 races at Caulfield this week - races 1, 4 and 5!

If i get them finished i have some new class ratings i want to test on these races....want be able to provide prices i don't think but will see