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Old 31st August 2005, 01:59 AM
citytom citytom is offline
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Default Cheating On-Line in Poker

Cheating at Online Poker! Have you seen this ad online?

This is being sold as “No Rules Poker” on the internet.

It has a beautifully written ad which stopped me in my tracks when I read it. It told how I could see my opponents cards, just as I see my cards on the screen. What a deal that is. I will be able to know what my opponents hole cards are! I read the ad again (it was quite long). I’ve been around too long to believe what the ad said, and moved on.

A few days later I came across a forum post of a customer of the above ad. He was so angry he posted the whole damn package for anyone’s viewing. And boy, did I laugh.

I read it in less than an hour. It is such bullsh**. Let me give you a summary of it's contents:

Part one: pertains to "collusion". Nothing I didn't know already. The author is talking about you and your buddy playing the same SNG and are on the phone telling each other their hole cards.

Part two included some info on a Poker bot that you can buy somewhere else. I have no idea if that idea is realistic. I did go to the site and read another well written, and long, ad on poker-bots. A poker bot is a program that will allow a “robot” to play, and win, without you being there. Hmmmmm!.

Part three was some 1st class real bullsh** regarding "linguistics". He gives examples of using the chat to influence what your opponent does. Totally bogus.

Part Three: pertains to installing a program, and get it onto your opponents computer. You have to, at the minimum get his password, user name, ISP, etc.; and I'm not sure if the rest of the computer oriented stuff would work if you could even get that info.

He gives a money back guarantee. I can't see anyone being happy or finding this useful.

What an entrepreneur the author is though. He's written an advertisement that grabs people's attention. I'm sure he's made a bundle of money.

I'm glad I didn't buy. I would have been requesting my money back. How long do you think I would have to wait?????

I'm embarrassed that I gave this ad the attention I did.

I’d like to hear from others on their thoughts/interaction/experiences regarding the above product.

Citytom

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Old 5th September 2005, 02:19 PM
Gattaca Gattaca is offline
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I haven't seen the ad and definitely wouldn't ever order such a 'product'.

Partly because as you discovered, it is highly likely to be some sort of ********, in this case requiring you to perform fairly technical computer crime just to see one person's hole cards. If that person was not available to play against you would have to infiltrate the computers of other players... in other words a whole series of hacking crimes just to rob them of a few dollars at poker. If you were a sophisticated enough cyber criminal to do that I'm sure there would be better ways to make an illegal fortune and they wouldn't require paying someone to point them out!

The other reason is that the poker rooms are becoming very wealthy and have a huge vested interest in keeping their games pretty clean, so they are investing quite a lot of resources into stopping such chicanery. It's like mechanical attacks against roulette in a casino these days, you are up against quite sophisticated anti cheating technology and most people consider it too risky or difficult when there are other illegal ways of making money that are easier.
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