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Old 22nd October 2014, 02:32 PM
garyf garyf is offline
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Originally Posted by Management
In case some folks aren't aware, the following wording from the Terms of Use about defamatory posts was included on legal advice.

"Potentially defamatory or libellous. This especially relates to the identifying of businesses, racing products, racing personalities or other individuals in a context that could harm reputations, even if justified."

In the past we have had to settle with a significant five figure payment for defamation when what was "defamed" was a racing get rich quick promotion aimed at battlers.

Legal action can also be taken against the poster.


If we allowed the sorts of public comment that some folks believe should be published here, sight unseen by the owners, we would be inundated with defamation claims and there would most likely be no Forum.

Hope this helps you understand why we are taking, what seems to some, to be an unreasonable stance on expressing your opinions.

Management.



OK so why don't we do this.

If something that "MAY" lead to legal issues with Pro-Pun,
Can be put this way on the forum.

EG;

I have an issue with a corporate bookmaker (NO-NAME),
Not adhering to the rules re racing N.S.W new betting agreement,
And have had my account closed.


Contact me at (Whatever ) Or I give permission,
For PRO-PUN to forward my email to other forum members.

You can then stipulate who you want to converse with,
If option B is required.

This way anyone who is interested can email you,
And correspond re the issue.

You have promoted what you want that will not be deleted by,
The moderators in normal circumstances..

You can communicate with everyone if you want to do that.

You can communicate with selected only (UP TO YOU).

This way your issue gets across & stays on the forum,
For everyone to see genuinely interested parties can,
Contact you by whatever rules you put in place re your email .

Can't think of any other way around this where everybody,
Gets what they want.

Of course what you are doing here can then be widespread through other forums etc.

Cheers.
Garyf.

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Old 22nd October 2014, 03:11 PM
Rinconpaul Rinconpaul is offline
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Originally Posted by garyf
OK so why don't we do this.

This way anyone who is interested can email you,
And correspond re the issue.

You have promoted what you want that will not be deleted by,
The moderators in normal circumstances..

You can communicate with everyone if you want to do that.

You can communicate with selected only (UP TO YOU).

This way your issue gets across & stays on the forum,
For everyone to see genuinely interested parties can,
Contact you by whatever rules you put in place re your email .

Can't think of any other way around this where everybody,
Gets what they want.

Of course what you are doing here can then be widespread through other forums etc.

Cheers.
Garyf.


Got to be so careful Garyf. I bought a serviced block of land in a sub division. When it came time to settle, I refused as there was no power to the block yet. The developer offered me a lend of a generator! I emailed his office email and described him as being a 'lightweight' developer in my opinion. Next thing you know I get a solicitors letter claiming I defamed him. That was because I sent the email to his office and not him personally, therefore in the eyes of the law I published my opinion! Had to hire a lawyer and apologise.

So if you're circulating emails amongst people you don't really know, then you could be found guilty of that one. Must be sure the email goes directly to the person you intended it for.
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Old 22nd October 2014, 03:24 PM
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What your really talking about there is a private message service (or PM) which a lot of forums have but this one doesn't have (maybe because of the previously mentioned problem).
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Old 22nd October 2014, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rinconpaul
Got to be so careful Garyf. I bought a serviced block of land in a sub division. When it came time to settle, I refused as there was no power to the block yet. The developer offered me a lend of a generator! I emailed his office email and described him as being a 'lightweight' developer in my opinion. Next thing you know I get a solicitors letter claiming I defamed him. That was because I sent the email to his office and not him personally, therefore in the eyes of the law I published my opinion! Had to hire a lawyer and apologise.

So if you're circulating emails amongst people you don't really know, then you could be found guilty of that one. Must be sure the email goes directly to the person you intended it for.


Understand R.P.

But here I thought we aren't defaming anyone on the site (YET) (L O L)

The Secondary contact to you is from interested parties who wish,
To know what you actually mean hence they initiated the contact,
To you wanting to know the post.

With the block of land you initiated the opinion straight to the,
Person not through a 3rd party as what the pro-pun site is,
Then stated only interested parties can hear "your opinion" at "THEIR",
Bequest not yours.

So as you have not defamed them publicly & they requested,
Your opinion how can they sue you on something private,
Between 2 x parties because they didn't like what you said,
Providing of course what you are stating "IS FACTUAL"

May be wrong but that's how I interpret it if anyone,
Can clarify for R.P & MYSELF feel free.

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Old 22nd October 2014, 03:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ocho
What your really talking about there is a private message service (or PM) which a lot of forums have but this one doesn't have (maybe because of the previously mentioned problem).


Hi T/O.

Guess it's then up to the individual how far they are prepared to go,
With their post then.

Cheers.
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Old 22nd October 2014, 05:51 PM
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Management has made quite clear why the Terms of Use apply.

If you want to name and shame then please do it somewhere else, not here.

Thanks for your views.

Enough discussion has now taken place.

This thread is now being closed.

Moderator.
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