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Old 18th January 2005, 11:48 AM
syllabus23 syllabus23 is offline
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Cool Tassie Tote Ratings

I asked Tassie tote how they arrived at their ratings.This was their reply....


In regards to your question about the THOROUGH Form Interactive form
guide, the ratings are based off the class and time of the race. 20
points of rating equals one full length, so in your example where the
difference is 5 points (545 - 540), then they would finish approximately
one head apart.
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Old 18th January 2005, 11:57 AM
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I asked Tassie tote how they arrived at their ratings.This was their reply....


In regards to your question about the THOROUGH Form Interactive form
guide, the ratings are based off the class and time of the race. 20
points of rating equals one full length,


Syllabus23 - How do they perform?
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Old 18th January 2005, 12:11 PM
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In my opinion this is the best free form guide available online.Career performance and ratings in a drop down format.Easy to follow and great for form students.Lot's of valuable information...

Lolol of course that wasn't the question.

The value in their ratings is that you are seeing a horse's career ratings on one page.They dont rate the current race,,just past performances,so you are left to decide your own base rating.I like it,, but these things tend to be a matter of individual preference.

Good luck,, good punting...


http://www.thetote.com.au/racebet/form_guides/platinum/
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Old 18th January 2005, 12:16 PM
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Well, I'm trialling a ratings method at the moment and yesterday I used both the Tas Tab ratings and Ozeform ratings to do a comparison.

I rated 7 races, although the two at Murwullimbah were abandoned. In the other 5 races, between the two sets of ratings, I found the winner of all of them in the top or equal top rated horses. Using Ozeform, I had the three shorter priced winners rated on top whereas the Tas ratings had them 2nd, 3rd or 4th. However, using the Tas ratings, I had Swan Hill 5-10 Mer Bebe rated on top and it paid $16 for the win. I also had Swan Hill 7-7 Most Handsome equal top rated and it paid $12. In Mer Bebe's race, Ozeform had Number 3 rated on top. It finished 3rd and an any 2 bet on those two horses paid $156. Very nice!

Importantly, the Tas tab ratings rate EVERY race, unlike Ozeform. The race that Most Handsome won last start which had it up the top was not even rated on Ozeform. Very frustrating to see a figure of 0.0 next to quite a few country races. Also, it's MUCH slower using Ozeform to get the ratings.

One thing that found them both out however was Lookout in the Moruya Cup. It had won at Canterbury on Friday, and neither site had updated the form and rating for that run. So I had to make a judgement myself on it's rating for that run. Personally, I thought it was a pretty good thing in the race, despite the extra 2.5kgs hcp it received.

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Old 18th January 2005, 12:22 PM
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Sportz....list the races you rated i would like to give then a run via my ratings to see what come up with......i like the links that give information for that particular form...this very useful to see how the horse has done at the distance and stuff

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Old 18th January 2005, 12:54 PM
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Just have a quick peek at Jazzark's form in Rocky today.

The poor darned horse has had 22 runs this preparation.It probably pulls a milk cart in it's spare time and takes the kids to school......
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Old 18th January 2005, 01:04 PM
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Here they are Shaun. Sorry, but I actually deleted the prices I had assessed for each horse and I don't feel like working them out again.

As I said, with the Moruya Cup, I actually had to make my own assessment of Lookout's last run, but I think it was probably fairly close to the ratings that the horse would have been given by Ozeform and Tas Tab.

MORUYA R5 CL5 1425m:
(using Ozeform)
01 TRUE CROWN 52.0
07 REALIGN 51.0
04 MR. DEAN 49.0
09 NITROGEN NARCOSIS 49.0
03 KING O' THE RINGS 48.5
06 THEN AGAIN 48.0
(using Tas Tab)
06 THEN AGAIN 56.5
09 NITROGEN NARCOSIS 55.0
01 TRUE CROWN 53.5
03 KING O' THE RINGS 52.5
07 REALIGN 52.0
04 MR. DEAN 50.5

MORUYA R7 Cup 1930m
(using Ozeform)
01 LOOKOUT 52.5
04 THROUGH 51.0
05 BUSH FLASH 51.0
09 DELISSA 50.5
06 BELHARI 49.5
10 ROMANOUS JEWEL 48.5
(using Tas Tab)
04 THROUGH 55.5
01 LOOKOUT 54.5
03 PROTECTIVE CUSTODY 54.0
02 SHY PRINCE 53.0
08 WINKURRA 53.0
09 DELISSA 52.5

MORUYA R8 CL1 1425m
(using Ozeform)
04 ROXBURY HALL 49.0
06 MON AVIDE 47.5
03 BONNEVILLE 46.5
07 COLOUR THERAPY 42.5
10 BUE TIFFE 41.0
09 MCALLISTER 40.5
(using Tas Tab)
06 MON AVIDE 52.0
04 ROXBURY HALL 50.0
03 BONNEVILLE 47.0
12 BLUES FEST 47.0
07 COLOUR THERAPY 46.5
08 JUNGLE GIRL 45.5

SWAN HILL R5 CL2 1300m
(using Ozeform)
03 ABOVE CLASS 50.0
10 MER BEBE 48.0
01 NORTON CREEK 47.5
04 CHORUS 47.5
02 SNOBBERY 46.5
09 MISS APPEALING 46.0
(using Tas Tab)
10 MER BEBE 50.0
06 FACADE 49.0
09 MISS APPEALING 47.5
01 NORTON CREEK 46.0
03 ABOVE CLASS 45.5
07 JESSI RAE 45.5

SWAN HILL R7 CL3 2100m
(using Ozeform)
05 TRUSTY ASSISTANT 49.5
02 MYPOLLONGA 49.0
03 SMYTZER'S SMYTZER 48.5
06 LAN STAR 47.0
07 MOST HANDSOME 47.0
(using Tas Tab)
03 SMYTZER'S SMYTZER 47.0
06 LAN STAR 47.0
07 MOST HANDSOME 47.0
01 KAMESHIMA 46.0
05 TRUSTY ASSISTANT 46.0
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Old 18th January 2005, 01:05 PM
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Smile VERY SLACK.

Dates of last race ran are incorrect.
Very slack on their part but not the only site that does it.
Whatever happened to customer service.?
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Old 18th January 2005, 01:34 PM
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That will be ok...just wanted to compare what they had thats all
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Old 18th January 2005, 01:59 PM
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MORUYA R5 CL5 1425m:
102.70 1 True Crown (11) $4.76
72.83 3 King O' the Rings (7) $6.71
70.42 9 Nitrogen Narcosis (9) $6.94
63.73 6 Then Again (4) $7.67

MORUYA R7 Cup 1930m
108.35 3 Protective Custody (5) $5.17
107.16 5 Bush Flash (4) $5.23
79.45 4 Through (7) $7.05
72.97 1 Lookout (9) $7.67

SWAN HILL R5 CL2 1300m
138.74 4 Chorus (4) $3.35
102.70 2 Snobbery (2) $4.52
63.45 1 Norton Creek (13) $7.32
42.66 7 Jessi Rae (10) $10.89

SWAN HILL R7 CL3 2100m
80.31 5 Trusty Assistant (9) $4.14
71.85 6 Lani Star (2) $4.63
53.89 7 Most Handsome (5) $6.17
42.66 3 Smytzer's Smytzer (NZ) (7) $7.79
42.66 4 Jamaican Sunset (6) $7.79

i didn't rate MORUYA R8 CL1 1425m because my ratings need a minimum of 3 starts and mr ratings are points based on form
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