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post27,CP,
Some years ago the Blue Mountains west of Sydney experienced devastating bushfires but one local refused to surrender his house to the inferno. He had constructed an insulated "brick-**** house" which allowed him to safely shelter from the passing inferno. Once it had passed it allowed him to attend to "spot-fires" and glowing embers in the gutters, so he saved his property with reduced damage. Give that a serious thought mate. heers. |
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Yep, I was actually going to build a concrete bunker using prefab concrete as a fire emergency shelter for animals and people.
Years ago most people would think you're a lunatic, until this last decade of fires. But again, it's too expensive to get it there. Thought seriously about alpaca or lambswool insulation as it's fire resistant. There's something to be said for a moat though
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In another life we called this "Game" - "Aint it awful."
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post32, CP,
Yeah that would work but the only problem with sheep/lambs wool is the heat involved as they smoulder in one of these infernos so you may need space-age-heat shield blankets plus a source of regenerating oxygen/water as most deaths are caused by smoke inhalation. Also, although it's a bit "out-there" the best insulator is the earth itself so think of a deep bunker in mother Earth. Cheers. Last edited by xanadu : 25th February 2014 at 03:03 PM. |
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CP using prefab concrete. I have done this all my life. You can pour onsite and lift them up into position. The system was originally designed to be done without a crane. We have done in areas that are so remote that if you can drive to your property then you are still in suburbia. One of my first experiences sharing my expertise was a group of five couples that built all their walls and installed them with chain block on a little mobile gantry. We made tiltup walls using river shingle and lifted them with a backhoe. Think outside the box.
My brother in law has two fire bunkers on his property using 2.4M concrete well liners, Has not had to use them but has done fire drills with them. |
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I agree Xanadu, in fact as we have progressed, we have lost vision of some of the best building methods.
From as recent as the mortice and tenon joints of the Amish going right back to living in caves and underground using earth as an extremely good insulator and protection from the elements. Mortice and Tenon is still used in some furniture, most wood windows and doors, but when using it with structures, it comes into it's own. There are thousands of positive developments that we can be thankful for. Smoke alarms Surge protectors Safety switches Solar energy Water treatment It's no the developments that are the scourge, it's the rules that limit one's lifestyle and inhibit enjoyment. I remember being mesmorised by a Dick Smith 80-in-one electrical kit I got as a kid. It had a little red solar cell which would power a tiny motor
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Thanks beton that's great information. Although a little off the topic, I think this thread demonstrates that this forum contains a wealth of information that is never utilised or known about. I'll definitely look into that, thanks for sharing.
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Ahem, fellow "Luddites" perhaps we should return to the original context of this thread as it is not "Homes And Gardens."
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I'd actually investigated getting large, used concrete drain pipes to the potential property and then setting them into a raised mound.
I designed a maze and a chimney flu so the air would circulate but be filtered. But it worked out too costly, i.e. more than building an actual house The idea being you walk in and then to the right and then down and to the left. No need for a fire door. Smoke would be channeled before it got to phase one and then any reminants channeled in phase 2. I know it can work, as I tested it on a scale model, but it's not viable.
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Sorry, it did start of as the limitations placed upon us, and then deviated from there.
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