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Old 30th July 2017, 03:04 PM
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Default Lets follow a system for a few weeks ....

For a bit of fun lets look at a similar system to Speedys over in the rating of rating threads. I have not optimised this and just thrown the rules together for us to have a play with. I think it should be a fun for the system followers. Its also a quick easy way to have a good go on some selecitons if you need a few at the track on a Saturday afternoon.

Three Rules:

1. Horse must be favourite (or dual fav) on betfair just before jump. For the case of this testing it will be favourite in my database just before the jump based on available exchange prices.
2. Horse must be rated 100 on tatts (simple selection technique).
3. Horse must be bet on Betfair SP as its easier for me.

I will run NZ and AUS. I will include Harness racing.

I'll post a day after the results and when I get time. I'll post all selections it came up with.

So yesterdays results were:

Roto (NZL) 29th Jul R2 3000m Hrd - 4. Monarch Chimes - 3.10 - WINNER
Roto (NZL) 29th Jul R3 1400m 3yo - 8. Shellez Ace - 4.64 - LOSER
Roto (NZL) 29th Jul R4 1215m Hcap - 4. Hello Mlady - 1.98 - WINNER
Caul (AUS) 29th Jul R1 1200m Hcap - 3. Sullivan Bay - 3.95 - LOSER
Roto (NZL) 29th Jul R5 1560m Hcap - 2. Wooden Edge - 3.84 - LOSER
Town (AUS) 29th Jul R1 1300m 2yo - 2. Samba Rio - 2.87 - LOSER
Gosf (AUS) 29th Jul R2 1200m CL2 - 1. Irithea - 1.60 - WINNER
Caul (AUS) 29th Jul R3 1400m 2yo - 1. Nistaan - 2.88 - LOSER
Darw (AUS) 29th Jul R1 1200m Hcap - 1. Niccoco - 2.48 - WINNER
Beau (AUS) 29th Jul R3 1050m Mdn - 3. Fatz - 4.50 - LOSER
Beau (AUS) 29th Jul R3 1050m Mdn - 10. Catchulata - 4.24 - LOSER
Darw (AUS) 29th Jul R2 1200m Hcap - 3. Gasoline Alley - 3.33 - LOSER
Doom (AUS) 29th Jul R6 1600m 3yo - 5. Rhyming - 3.35 - LOSER
Town (AUS) 29th Jul R5 1200m Hcap - 9. Lucky Clover - 4.62 - LOSER
Rose (AUS) 29th Jul R6 2000m Hcap - 13. Vaucluse Bay - 3.35 - WINNER
Cona (AUS) 29th Jul R3 1200m Mdn - 8. Auntie Shirl - 3.85 - LOSER
Morp (AUS) 29th Jul R5 1200m Hcap - 4. Go The Journey - 4.06 - WINNER
Darw (AUS) 29th Jul R4 1100m Mdn - 10. Remodify - 2.63 - LOSER
Beau (AUS) 29th Jul R5 1400m 3yo - 4. Mr Attitude - 3.65 - LOSER
Roma (AUS) 29th Jul R5 1640m Hcap - 2. Fast Fella - 2.86 - LOSER
Belm (AUS) 29th Jul R2 1000m Hcap - 2. More Aces - 3.50 - WINNER
Gosf (AUS) 29th Jul R7 1200m CL2 - 2. Cellarman - 3.26 - WINNER
Morp (AUS) 29th Jul R6 1600m Hcap - 8. Balfs Choice - 2.93 - WINNER
Beau (AUS) 29th Jul R6 1100m CL1 - 8. Freezen Easy - 2.86 - LOSER
Roma (AUS) 29th Jul R6 1200m Hcap - 7. Gud Onya - 3.72 - WINNER
Darw (AUS) 29th Jul R6 1000m Hcap - 1. Rex Celeritate - 2.40 - WINNER
Rose (AUS) 29th Jul R9 1500m Hcap - 12. Long Time Ago - 4.61 - LOSER
Belm (AUS) 29th Jul R4 1300m Hcap - 11. High Conviction - 2.03 - LOSER
Roeb (AUS) 29th Jul R4 1200m Hcap - 2. Roman Fighter - 4.06 - LOSER
Morp (AUS) 29th Jul R8 1200m Hcap - 11. Midnight Storm - 4.80 - LOSER
APrk (AUS) 29th Jul R1 1660m Pace M - 8. The Bettormack - 3.40 - LOSER
Darw (AUS) 29th Jul R7 1600m Hcap - 7. Abu Dhabi - 3.21 - LOSER
Darw (AUS) 29th Jul R8 1600m Hcap - 7. Kifaah - 2.30 - LOSER
Belm (AUS) 29th Jul R6 1300m 3yo - 4. A Knight Of Pro - 3.50 - LOSER
Shep (AUS) 29th Jul R2 1690m Pace M - 7. Flight Officer - 3.35 - LOSER
Mngl (AUS) 29th Jul R3 1609m Pace M - 5. Parramatta - 3.14 - LOSER
Shep (AUS) 29th Jul R5 1690m Pace M - 1. Just Rockon Bye - 2.48 - WINNER
APrk (AUS) 29th Jul R6 2138m Pace M - 4. Ultimate Art - 3.31 - LOSER
Mngl (AUS) 29th Jul R6 1609m Pace M - 4. Code Black - 2.98 - WINNER
GlbD (AUS) 29th Jul R3 2230m Pace M - 5. Stars Of Courage - 1.47 - LOSER
GlPk (AUS) 29th Jul R1 2130m Pace M - 3. Boo Hoo - 4.55 - WINNER
GlbD (AUS) 29th Jul R4 2230m Pace M - 5. Our Celebrity - 1.35 - LOSER
Shep (AUS) 29th Jul R8 2190m Pace M - 6. San Carlo - 1.05 - WINNER
APrk (AUS) 29th Jul R9 1660m Pace M - 3. Verdot - 2.56 - LOSER
GlbD (AUS) 29th Jul R5 1800m Pace M - 2. Thats Perfect - 1.58 - WINNER
Mngl (AUS) 29th Jul R9 2300m Trot S - 6. Springbank Eden - 3.70 - LOSER
GlPk (AUS) 29th Jul R3 2130m Pace M - 1. Vampiro - 1.15 - WINNER
APrk (AUS) 29th Jul R10 2138m Pace M - 4. Catcha Lefty - 1.25 - WINNER
GlbD (AUS) 29th Jul R6 1800m Pace M - 9. Saphirique - 3.69 - WINNER
GlPk (AUS) 29th Jul R4 2130m Pace M - 3. Kaptain Kenny - 3.82 - LOSER
Shep (AUS) 29th Jul R10 2190m Trot M - 4. Fatouche - 1.97 - LOSER
GlbD (AUS) 29th Jul R7 1800m Pace M - 10. Bayview Harbour - 3.45 - LOSER
GlPk (AUS) 29th Jul R5 2130m Pace M - 8. Shardons Rocket - 2.20 - LOSER
Shep (AUS) 29th Jul R11 2190m Pace M - 4. Northern Eagle - 2.60 - WINNER
GlPk (AUS) 29th Jul R6 2130m Pace M - 3. Heza Head Honcho - 1.52 - LOSER
GlPk (AUS) 29th Jul R7 2130m Pace M - 2. Touch of Success - 1.10 - WINNER
GlPk (AUS) 29th Jul R8 2503m Pace S - 11. Bettor Not Bitter - 2.67 - WINNER

I'll record the system rule results. I'll include all favs as that is our baseline on whether this works or fails. And I'll add a different perspective with "stop when in profit for the day" as well.

Result Day 1 : 57 selections for a PROFIT of $0.48
All Favs Day 1 : 146 selections for a LOSS of $-6.24
Stop when up for the day Day 1 : 1 selection for PROFIT of $2.10

Any questions just ask....
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Old 30th July 2017, 03:32 PM
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Oops forgot commission. Applying 10% commission for testing.


Result Day 1 : 57 selections for a LOSS of $3.06
All Favs Day 1 : 146 selections for a LOSS of $-15.11
Stop when up for the day Day 1 : 1 selection for PROFIT of $1.89
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Old 30th July 2017, 03:44 PM
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Nice UB, this will be interesting as it is very similar to one of my systems.
And you have included the added touch of the STOP mechanism - bliss!

Just for the record, if you separated gallops and harness yesterday, harness STOP would have also made a profit of around 2 units.

Thanks for the thread...
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Old 30th July 2017, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Every Topic
Nice UB, this will be interesting as it is very similar to one of my systems.
And you have included the added touch of the STOP mechanism - bliss!

Just for the record, if you separated gallops and harness yesterday, harness STOP would have also made a profit of around 2 units.

Thanks for the thread...
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I'll keep a record of that going forward as well. Thanks for mentioning it.
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Old 30th July 2017, 05:26 PM
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doh you have revealed one of my top shelf systems
its ok i won't do the lawyer thing
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Old 30th July 2017, 07:02 PM
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Quote:
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doh you have revealed one of my top shelf systems
its ok i won't do the lawyer thing


If this is your top shelf systems then your in trouble. I don't expect this to make much of a profit over the test period. Its just a play system.
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Old 31st July 2017, 06:06 PM
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PLap (NZL) 30th Jul R2 1200m Hcap - 4. Strolling Vagabond - 1.83 - LOSER
Mary (AUS) 30th Jul R1 2190m Trot M - 4. Aldebaran Kiri - 1.93 - LOSER
Devn (AUS) 30th Jul R2 1150m 3yo - 9. Party Planner - 1.98 - LOSER
Mary (AUS) 30th Jul R2 2190m Trot M - 6. Jilliby Babavska - 2.48 - WINNER
Pakn (AUS) 30th Jul R1 1600m Mdn - 2. Cash Sail - 2.66 - LOSER
PLap (NZL) 30th Jul R6 1600m Mdn - 1. Grey Ghost - 3.04 - LOSER
SCst (AUS) 30th Jul R1 1000m Mdn - 3. Zoff N Off - 2.34 - LOSER
PLap (NZL) 30th Jul R7 2100m Hcap - 6. Precious Percy - 2.60 - LOSER
Mary (AUS) 30th Jul R4 2190m Trot S - 12. Taimate Success - 2.30 - LOSER
Sapp (AUS) 30th Jul R2 1608m CL1 - 3. Megawatt - 3.28 - LOSER
Devn (AUS) 30th Jul R5 1350m Mdn - 4. Purple Rider - 2.18 - WINNER
Tamw (AUS) 30th Jul R3 1200m 3yo - 3. Dual Escape - 4.60 - WINNER
Tamw (AUS) 30th Jul R3 1200m 3yo - 4. Jardine - 4.40 - LOSER
Pakn (AUS) 30th Jul R4 1400m Mdn - 12. Oracabessa - 1.55 - WINNER
Gawl (AUS) 30th Jul R2 1729m Mdn - 5. Firstee - 2.01 - LOSER
Sapp (AUS) 30th Jul R3 1008m CL3 - 1. Fox Tales - 1.44 - LOSER
Devn (AUS) 30th Jul R6 1350m CL1 - 1. Newts - 2.60 - LOSER
SCst (AUS) 30th Jul R4 2200m CL3 - 3. Bronzegate - 1.88 - WINNER
Tamw (AUS) 30th Jul R4 1400m CL1 - 2. Our Tickets - 3.55 - LOSER
Gawl (AUS) 30th Jul R3 1219m 2yo - 4. Mighty Mick - 3.80 - LOSER
ASpr (AUS) 30th Jul R1 1200m Hcap - 3. Hot Demand - 1.87 - LOSER
SCst (AUS) 30th Jul R5 1400m CL2 - 3. Sagamama - 2.48 - LOSER
Mary (AUS) 30th Jul R7 2190m Pace M - 8. Dot The Eye - 2.28 - LOSER
Sapp (AUS) 30th Jul R5 1408m Mdn - 10. Daydream Explorer - 2.61 - LOSER
ASpr (AUS) 30th Jul R2 1100m Mdn - 6. Fire N Vice - 1.39 - WINNER
Mary (AUS) 30th Jul R8 1690m Pace M - 10. Ideal Lifestyle - 2.04 - WINNER
Tamw (AUS) 30th Jul R6 1200m CL2 - 3. Dont Doubt Her - 1.93 - LOSER
Kalg (AUS) 30th Jul R2 1760m Mdn - 6. Corrente - 2.68 - LOSER
Sapp (AUS) 30th Jul R6 1408m Hcap - 4. No Pushover - 1.82 - WINNER
Pakn (AUS) 30th Jul R8 1200m Hcap - 11. Wall Street Wolf - 3.50 - WINNER
ASpr (AUS) 30th Jul R3 1000m Hcap - 1. Eighteen Bombers - 3.36 - WINNER
Laun (AUS) 30th Jul R1 1680m Pace M - 3. Jeanette Barry - 2.63 - LOSER
Pakn (AUS) 30th Jul R9 1400m Hcap - 8. Rileys Rocket - 4.45 - LOSER
ASpr (AUS) 30th Jul R4 1600m Hcap - 3. Du Bois - 3.26 - WINNER
Tamw (AUS) 30th Jul R8 1400m CL1 - 1. Clevanicc - 3.97 - WINNER
Kalg (AUS) 30th Jul R5 1200m Hcap - 10. Corvara - 2.02 - WINNER
Laun (AUS) 30th Jul R4 2200m Pace S - 10. God Sake - 2.99 - WINNER
Kalg (AUS) 30th Jul R7 1400m CL2 - 4. Silver Knows - 2.98 - LOSER
Laun (AUS) 30th Jul R6 2200m Pace M - 11. Lynniemach - 3.29 - LOSER
Laun (AUS) 30th Jul R9 1680m Pace M - 4. Run Wick - 3.10 - WINNER
Laun (AUS) 30th Jul R12 2200m Pace S - 7. Washies Chance - 3.20 - LOSER


Results Overall : 98 selections for a LOSS of $-6.43
All Favs Overall : 239 selections for a LOSS of $-25.37

Stop when up for the day Overall : LOSS of $-1.48
Gallops Only (Stop in profit) Overall : PROFIT $0.42
Harness Only(Stop in profit) Overall : PROFIT $1.64
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Old 1st August 2017, 11:30 PM
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Awap (NZL) 31st Jul R2 1200m Hcap - 2. Gypsy Fair - 3.40 - LOSER
Awap (NZL) 31st Jul R3 1400m Mdn - 9. Patricia Anne - 1.96 - LOSER
Awap (NZL) 31st Jul R4 1550m Hcap - 2. Our Bandit - 3.05 - LOSER
YarV (AUS) 31st Jul R1 2150m Trot M - 4. Express Yourself - 1.81 - LOSER
Awap (NZL) 31st Jul R6 1200m Listed - 1. Waldorf - 2.20 - WINNER
PMaq (AUS) 31st Jul R1 1006m 3yo - 1. Raiden - 1.31 - LOSER
Dubb (AUS) 31st Jul R1 1040m Mdn - 10. I Am Twisted - 2.22 - LOSER
Mdra (AUS) 31st Jul R2 1100m 3yo - 10. Rat With Goldtooth - 1.73 - LOSER
YarV (AUS) 31st Jul R3 2150m Pace M - 1. Machli - 6.25 - LOSER
GlbD (AUS) 31st Jul R2 2230m Trot M - 2. Truscott Hall - 2.12 - LOSER
YarV (AUS) 31st Jul R4 2150m Pace M - 4. Ourark - 4.75 - LOSER
GlbD (AUS) 31st Jul R3 2230m Pace S - 5. Lost In Bangkok - 1.98 - WINNER
Pinj (AUS) 31st Jul R1 1684m Pace M - 4. Orphan Reactor - 2.77 - LOSER
PMaq (AUS) 31st Jul R4 1206m Hcap - 3. Duck In Dubai - 2.81 - LOSER
Mdra (AUS) 31st Jul R5 1300m Hcap - 4. Bonus Doro - 1.97 - WINNER
YarV (AUS) 31st Jul R5 1650m Pace M - 2. Firenglow - 3.40 - LOSER
GlbD (AUS) 31st Jul R4 1800m Pace M - 1. Starlight Rainbow - 2.07 - WINNER
Pinj (AUS) 31st Jul R2 2116m Trot S - 8. Angus Invasion - 2.88 - WINNER
PMaq (AUS) 31st Jul R5 1006m Hcap - 1. Laurentian - 2.56 - WINNER
GlbD (AUS) 31st Jul R5 1800m Pace M - 4. Major Rainbow - 2.19 - WINNER
Pinj (AUS) 31st Jul R3 2185m Pace M - 11. Unexpectedvisitor - 3.30 - WINNER
GlbD (AUS) 31st Jul R6 1800m Pace M - 6. Crystal Sparkles - 1.32 - WINNER
PMaq (AUS) 31st Jul R7 1506m Hcap - 9. Dolphin Tale - 4.81 - LOSER
GlbD (AUS) 31st Jul R7 1800m Pace M - 10. Hes Tight Lipped - 3.30 - WINNER
Dubb (AUS) 31st Jul R7 1040m CL2 - 1. Joeys Destiny - 1.71 - WINNER
GlbD (AUS) 31st Jul R8 1800m Pace M - 4. Big Behemoth - 1.44 - WINNER
Pinj (AUS) 31st Jul R7 1684m Pace M - 11. Mcardles Gem - 4.20 - LOSER
Pinj (AUS) 31st Jul R8 2116m Pace S - 10. Arising Easton - 3.15 - LOSER
Leet (AUS) 31st Jul R5 1758m Pace M - 6. Cams A Million - 1.55 - WINNER
Leet (AUS) 31st Jul R7 1758m Pace M - 8. Million Dollar Gem - 2.71 - LOSER
Leet (AUS) 31st Jul R8 1758m Pace M - 1. Idunnoyet - 2.59 - LOSER

Results Overall : 129 selections for a LOSS of $-10.50
All Favs Overall : 301 selections for a LOSS of $-24.94

Stop when up for the day Overall : LOSS of $-1.00
Gallops Only (Stop in profit) Overall : LOSS $-3.18
Harness Only(Stop in profit) Overall : PROFIT $3.06
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Old 1st August 2017, 11:44 PM
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UB, well not to bad, gee I hope you do better than me, hahahh!
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Old 2nd August 2017, 10:30 AM
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working perfectly well for harness incorporating a stop mechanism :-)
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