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Old 7th September 2015, 05:49 PM
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No worries Gary.
It's been an interesting insight today and when the critics of Pat's arbing say there's no such thing possible.....well I've gotta say there are plenty of opportunities, but why bother with arbs and small returns, when you can use the signal to back or lay outright.

I mention Back, coz when you look at a lot of the winners on these odds comparison sites, WOW, the bookies head for the trenches as a group, compared to the Betfair back price LOL offering no value at all. Again, the beginnings possibly for a mechanical system?

All hail to you Pat for your observation and doggedness to stick with your beliefs.
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Old 7th September 2015, 05:56 PM
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RP, I checked the race. I believe the selection highlighted was Mill Pond. At 10 secs to the jump it was showing 9.0 / 28.0 for the back/lay prices. So I assume your screenshot is showing the back price only. Your problem is there was not much money in the market when you were looking and if you automated that you would have lots of issues with delayed races, etc.


Yes you could be right UB, it was an excercise in 'potentials' to get people thinking. D.O.oomben is very unreliable when it comes to Betfair and why I left them behind long ago BUT the few test bets I Layed today, I was using Betfairs site as the reference.
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Old 8th September 2015, 11:49 AM
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No worries Gary.
It's been an interesting insight today and when the critics of Pat's arbing say there's no such thing possible.....well I've gotta say there are plenty of opportunities, but why bother with arbs and small returns, when you can use the signal to back or lay outright.

I mention Back, coz when you look at a lot of the winners on these odds comparison sites, WOW, the bookies head for the trenches as a group, compared to the Betfair back price LOL offering no value at all. Again, the beginnings possibly for a mechanical system?

All hail to you Pat for your observation and doggedness to stick with your beliefs.


Thanks mate. Although there's lots of these throughout the week on Aus racing, returns between big and small, it's nothing compared to international (which on average don't have small returns). Enough about that though lol.

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Old 9th September 2015, 07:43 PM
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Goin well on the adaption of your original post Pat. Pulled in $700+ in the last 3 days having a play. I must admit Crown rarely featured though, usually 365, TAB or Bbookies prepared to offer > lay price.

There were a few 1st faves that fell over today, confirmed by the signal and I wish I was brave enough to take them on! The go is to watch the flucs from about 5 mins out. If they're a goer, they'll be offering > than Lay, about then. By the time of the jump it's back under, 99% of the time. It's a matter of training your eye, which I was quite adept at a couple of years ago with on course flucs....until they went synthetic, and I had to move on

Don't try the Dogs though! Harness.....enough said, there's too much.......goin on there, and the bookies know it?
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Old 10th September 2015, 01:02 PM
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Goin well on the adaption of your original post Pat. Pulled in $700+ in the last 3 days having a play. I must admit Crown rarely featured though, usually 365, TAB or Bbookies prepared to offer > lay price.

There were a few 1st faves that fell over today, confirmed by the signal and I wish I was brave enough to take them on! The go is to watch the flucs from about 5 mins out. If they're a goer, they'll be offering > than Lay, about then. By the time of the jump it's back under, 99% of the time. It's a matter of training your eye, which I was quite adept at a couple of years ago with on course flucs....until they went synthetic, and I had to move on

Don't try the Dogs though! Harness.....enough said, there's too much.......goin on there, and the bookies know it?


Yea I agree with what you've said. I've only looked for a few months but have noticed these favourites which have overs rarely win.

Great lay service!
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