Smartgambler
Pro-Punter

Go Back   OZmium Sports Betting and Horse Racing Forums > Public Forums > General Topics
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark all topics as read

To advertise on these
forums, e-mail us.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #41  
Old 10th February 2018, 07:55 AM
kiwiz kiwiz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Location: Auckland
Posts: 21,060
Wink

Oscietra scratched at the barrier,,Moonee Valley last night
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 11th February 2018, 11:58 AM
Chrome Prince Chrome Prince is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 5,789
Default

Oscietra - after being fractious and rearing its starting stall, underwent a veterinary examination and was a late withdrawal on veterinary advice at 8.32pm and the filly must now gain further approval in a jump out prior to racing again.
__________________
RaceCensus - powerful system testing software.
Now with over 297,000 Metropolitan, Provincial and Country races!
http://www.propun.com.au/horse_raci...ng_systems.html
*RaceCensus now updated to 30/04/2018
Video overview of RaceCensus here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W821YP_b0Pg
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 11th February 2018, 12:01 PM
Lord Greystoke Lord Greystoke is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,204
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Oscietra - after being fractious and rearing its starting stall, underwent a veterinary examination and was a late withdrawal on veterinary advice at 8.32pm and the filly must now gain further approval in a jump out prior to racing again.


Possibly not a chip off the old block then or is it way too early to tell Chrome?

Cheers LG
__________________
The fewer but more complex filters,which are not easily identifiable by most punters in a system, the more chance of it repeating - Wesmip1
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 12th February 2018, 07:57 AM
grizzle grizzle is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,149
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Oscietra - after being fractious and rearing its starting stall, underwent a veterinary examination and was a late withdrawal on veterinary advice at 8.32pm and the filly must now gain further approval in a jump out prior to racing again.

Oscietra suffered minor abrasions to her near hind leg in the incident
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 12th February 2018, 08:29 AM
Chrome Prince Chrome Prince is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 5,789
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Greystoke
Possibly not a chip off the old block then or is it way too early to tell Chrome?
Cheers LG


Nowhere near the old block (Black Caviar) I'm afraid LG.
Equine genetics just don't work that way.
They basically want a clone of Black Caviar, and they aren't going to get it.
Early on, it was reported the Oscietra was worth 5 million, but they weren't selling her. Surely they should have broken her in, trialled her secretly at Euroa and then put her up for sale. She doesn't even resemble BC according to the trainer and is built differently, the trainer was very surprised that she went around odds on at her first start.

However, they will probably get one good horse from Black Caviar, as they are using her as a breeding machine sadly. They won't get a clone as good as her though, they'll get possibly one good horse that will win one or two Group races, and that's the best they can hope for.

Without delving too deeply into equine genetics, it boils down to not how good the Sire or Dam is, you can spend a fortune trying to get a champion, but whether the build, stride, lungs and heart are passed down as dominant genes, and how dominant those genetics are for the combination of sire and dam.
__________________
RaceCensus - powerful system testing software.
Now with over 297,000 Metropolitan, Provincial and Country races!
http://www.propun.com.au/horse_raci...ng_systems.html
*RaceCensus now updated to 30/04/2018
Video overview of RaceCensus here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W821YP_b0Pg
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 12th February 2018, 07:44 PM
Lord Greystoke Lord Greystoke is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,204
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Nowhere near the old block (Black Caviar) I'm afraid LG.
Equine genetics just don't work that way.
They basically want a clone of Black Caviar, and they aren't going to get it.
Early on, it was reported the Oscietra was worth 5 million, but they weren't selling her. Surely they should have broken her in, trialled her secretly at Euroa and then put her up for sale. She doesn't even resemble BC according to the trainer and is built differently, the trainer was very surprised that she went around odds on at her first start.

However, they will probably get one good horse from Black Caviar, as they are using her as a breeding machine sadly. They won't get a clone as good as her though, they'll get possibly one good horse that will win one or two Group races, and that's the best they can hope for.

Without delving too deeply into equine genetics, it boils down to not how good the Sire or Dam is, you can spend a fortune trying to get a champion, but whether the build, stride, lungs and heart are passed down as dominant genes, and how dominant those genetics are for the combination of sire and dam.


Makes for interesting reading Chrome. Genetics side interests me and I get your point regards pot luck. I have two different coloured eyes and a personality type that is maybe 2 - 5% of the population so you can probably see where I am coming from here.

LG
__________________
The fewer but more complex filters,which are not easily identifiable by most punters in a system, the more chance of it repeating - Wesmip1
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 13th February 2018, 04:23 PM
Chrome Prince Chrome Prince is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 5,789
Default

Yes, LG, if you have brothers and sisters or children and grandchildren, I'll bet none of them have both different colour eyes and the same 2 to 5% personality type together. Not meaning to delve personally, it's just an example for arguments sake.
__________________
RaceCensus - powerful system testing software.
Now with over 297,000 Metropolitan, Provincial and Country races!
http://www.propun.com.au/horse_raci...ng_systems.html
*RaceCensus now updated to 30/04/2018
Video overview of RaceCensus here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W821YP_b0Pg
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 24th February 2018, 11:00 AM
peanutz peanutz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 280
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Nowhere near the old block (Black Caviar) I'm afraid LG.
Equine genetics just don't work that way.
They basically want a clone of Black Caviar, and they aren't going to get it.

ditto makybe diva
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT +10. The time now is 05:12 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
2008 OZmium Pty. Ltd. All rights reserved . ACN 091184655