Hey guys not sure how many of you have looked at this but the likes of Confectioner and Sir Dex are in danger of not making the field or at maybe at best being emergencies. This is how the order sits right now

1. Perlin (Excempt) (but I think it is doubtful he will go to the CC)
2. El Segundo (Excempt) (question mark still would be very surprised if he doesn't run)
3. Leica Falcon (Excempt)
4. Mummify (sounds like he will be there would be better suited in the CP I thought)
5. Dizelle
6. First Charter (pulled up badly yesterday spring is over most likely)
7. Hollow Bullet
8. Plastered
9. Razkalla (Godolphin are saying they will run only one horse in the CC I think this is the one)
10. Fight Your Corner (see above)
11. Demerger
12. Eye Popper (know nothing about this one don't even know if it is here would imagine it is a runner anyway)
13. Portland Singa
14. Stella Grande
15. Vouvray
16. Wild Iris
17. Count Ricardo
18. Irish Darling
19. Railings
20. Bazelle
21. Carte Diamond
22. Fantastic Love (Godolphin again)
23. Lachlan River
24. Natural Blitz
25. Sir Dex
26. Confectioner
27. Kindjhal
28. Grey Song
29. Hugs Dancer
30. Moscow Ballet
31. Stormhill
32. Swift Tango
33. Activation
34. Free At Last

The horses I have in bold are either ones I have doubts whether they are even in the country or doubtful to start in the race due to poor form gone for a spell or injured. The main ones I amnot sure about are Carte Diamond, Eye Popper, Irish Darling and Count Ricardo not sure if the 1st 2 are in the country and not sure if the last 2 are going towards the cup.

At best I see Sir Dex being about the 18th runner and Confectioner at 19th and I think that is absolute best case scenario worst case they get nowhere near it.

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No Horse Trainer Ballot Wgt Pen Rating
1 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 57
2 FIRST CHARTER (GB) David Hayes 55.5
3 RAZKALLA (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor 55
4 FIGHT YOUR CORNER (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 54.5
5 EYE POPPER (JPN) Izumi Shimizu 54
6 PLASTERED Lindsey Smith 54
7 PERLIN (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 53.5
8 CARTE DIAMOND (USA) Brian Ellison 53
9 FANTASTIC LOVE (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor 53
10 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 53
11 SIR DEX Gregory Hickman 53
12 CONFECTIONER David Hayes 52.5
13 KINDJHAL (FR) David Hayes 52.5
14 STELLA GRANDE Lee Freedman 52.5
15 COUNT RICARDO Stephen Theodore 52
16 GREY SONG Tom Hughes 52
17 HUGS DANCER (FR) David Hayes 52
18 MOSCOW BALLET (IRE) David Hayes 52
19 SWIFT TANGO (IRE) David Hayes 52
20 RAILINGS John Hawkes 52 1.0
21 DEMERGER Danny O'Brien 51.5
22 DIZELLE John Hawkes 51.5
23 HOLLOW BULLET John McArdle 51.5
24 LACHLAN RIVER (NZ) John Morrisey 51.5
25 PORTLAND SINGA (NZ) Neville McBurney 51.5
26 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody 51.5
27 WILD IRIS Guy Walter 51.5
28 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards 51
29 SHOW BARRY John Rattle 51
30 BAZELLE (NZ) Paul Jenkins 50.5
31 CHARNWOOD GREEN Chris Wood 50.5
32 RIZON Cliff Brown 50.5
33 STORMHILL Tim Martin 50.5
34 ACTIVATION (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 50
35 FREE AT LAST (NZ) Alan Mathews 49.5
36 IRISH DARLING Tony Vasil 49.5
37 LORD OF LORDS Stephen Theodore 49.5
38 MR CELEBRITY (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 49.5
39 RUNON Steven Roberts 49.5
40 SARRERA Michael Moroney 49.5
41 SHROGGINET (NZ) Colin Alderson 49.5
42 SPECIAL SCENE Dan O'Sullivan 49.5
43 UPRIZE (NZ) Lee Freedman 49.5
44 VIZ VITAE (NZ) Murray Baker 49.5
45 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) Colin Little 49.5 1.5
46 KAMSKY Bart Cummings 48.5
47 LEICA FALCON Richard Freyer 48

The weights above could change by 1.5kgs if Mummify doesn't run also as far as I know the 1.5kg penalty beside El Segundos name is inculded in his weight as is Railings. I did hear that El Segundo will recieve a weight penalty for yesterdays win but it willnot count towards the CC only the MC.

I know. I'm thinking the same.

I hope Confectioner runs in the cox,,,i have him with Makybe (MC) at 105/1

i thought it was a bad ride on him yesterday that cost him..the horse is flying ..

Oops, I'm sorry Raw. I'm afraid I didn't read your post properly.

I thought you said that you WOULDN'T be very surprised if El Segundo doesn't run.

Personally, I really hope you're right that they decide to run.

What an absolute joke if Confectioner doesn't get a start in the Cup - one of the in-form WFA horses in the country. Both his last two runs have been the best Cup trails so far. Promote him into the field for God's sake.

Can anyone explain how all these overseas horses somehow manage to find themselves at or near the top of the order of entry??

Also, no way out-of-former's like Stella Grande & Hollow Bullet deserve a run in the Cup based on their Spring performances.

If it was up to me Confectioner, Railings, Stormhill, Lachlan River, Sir Dex, Mr Celebrity & Activation all should be promoted into the field if the connections wanted to run. They are all in form and would make for a great race. To hell with the imports.

Because they are usually higher weighted than the Australian horses purely because our handicappers generally think they're better than those racing here. Apart from horses which have won races which exempted them, the order of entry is based on weight compared to weight for age. This means that often horses which you think are very well weighted, are actually TOO well weighted in that it means they struggle to get into the field.

I'm pretty sure Confectioner will be put into the field. It would be a joke if it wasn't. The last time it happened, it was the English stayer Taufan's Melody which went on to win the cup at huge odds. It would be a huge double standard if they used their powers to include an English horse, but didn't do the same here with Confectioner.

Too right