I have been betting quadrellas for the past couple of weeks and am about break-even. I use half the field in every leg so there are many combinations but is well within my budget thanks to flexi-betting.

However, by omitting the pre-post fave and betting the selections in box quinellas have produced a worthwhile profit, and have won almost every day. The strike rate has been almost 40% for the 87 races that I have bet on. And including the pre-post fave has increased it to almost 65% but does not show an acceptable profit. I'll list today's selections, several are not quaddie races, and see how they go...

Warwick Farm
R2 nos. 1, 2, 4, 6, 7 (pre-post fave is no.3)
R3 nos. 4, 5, 6, 7, 11 (no.3)
R5 nos. 2, 6, 7, 8, 9 (no.1)
R6 nos. 1, 2, 7, 8, 11, 13, 16 (no. 3)
R7 nos. 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 13 (no.2)

Townsville
R4 nos. 1, 2, 5, 6, 11 (no.9)
R5 nos. 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10 (no.1)
R6 nos. 1, 2, 4, 8, 7, 10 (no.3)
R7 nos. 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 12 (no4)
R9 nos. 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 (no.10)

The total outlay is $152

I must be going mad but I can't remember how to work out the cost for a box quinella.

I thought if there were 5 runners, the price would be 5*4 = 20 for $1.
6 runners, 6*5 = 30
7 runners, 7*6 = 42

Now if that were the case with a makeup of :
4 races with 5 runners = 4 * 20 = 80
4 races with 6 runners = 4 * 30 = 120
2 races with 7 runners = 2 * 42 = 84

Total outlay of 284 or 142 for 50 c.....

BJ: Box quinella 5 runners costs $10, eg. 5*4/2. The division by two is because any of the two horse combinations can run 1st or 2nd.

The same 5 runners combination would cost $20 if they were taken as exacta bets.

So I was wrong, but that still makes the total outlay $142?

That's right, I make the outlay $142 based on a $1 unit.

Hi.

My records show there were 2 races of 5 runners = $20
6 races of 6 runners = $90
2 races of 7 runners = $42
Total of $152. Maybe I missed listing a selection?

Yesterday was the worst day since my keeping of records. For an outlay of $152 the return was $104. Hopefully that will be rectified today. Interestingly, there would have been an outlay of $1,360 betting box trifectas for a return of $1,170. Unfortunately I haven't kept any previous records of box trifectas.

Today's selections are:
Grafton
R3 nos. 1, 3, 5, 7, 8 (no.2)
R4 nos. 1, 3, 4, 7, 8 (no.2)
R6 nos. 1, 5, 8, 9, 11, 12, 14 (no.2)
R8 nos. 2, 3, 4, 8, 9 (no.1)
Eagle Farm
R4 nos. 2, 3, 5, 8, 10, 11 (no.4)
R5 nos. 2, 3, 5, 8, 10 (no.1)
R6 nos. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10 (no.7)
R7 nos. 2, 4, 5, 6, 11 (no.1)
Belmont
R2 nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 9 (no.1)
R4 nos. 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 (no.2)
R5 nos. 2, 3, 4, 7, 11 (no.5)


By my calcs the quinella outlay is $142, and the trifecta outlay is $1,080.

Yesterday was a disaster - I will give it one more day. Races from 1,200 to 1,450 have been terrible. Maybe because it's harder to rate horses resuming from a spell as opposed to shorter races. I'm now omitting them.

Today's selections are:
Grafton R2 nos. 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 (no3)
Grafton R8 nos. 1, 4, 6, 9, 11, 12 (no2)
Ipswich R5 nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 (no.7)
Ipswich R6 nos. 1, 3, 4, 8, 9 (no.2)
Ipswich R8 nos. 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, 10 (no1)
Northam R7 nos. 2, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12 (no.3)

Outlay of $80

MG
No offence intended but betting quinellas like that is not the way to go(IMO).I have tried recently to extoll the virtues of betting quinellas to prices,especially at the shorter end of the market,but as no interest was generated I chose not to go on with it.Favs win 30% of all races,those figures have stood the test of time,therefore thats 3 races in every 10 that you cant win before you even start!Boxing like that would mean your s/r would have to be extremely good to stay in profit in the long term,that is in the remaining 7 races out of 10.I would like to make a couple of suggestions,which you can take away and think about or reject completely.
1)Box Quinella 5 selections=$10
Suggestion.........
Pick your strongest selection and make it your banker and couple it with the other 4 runners @ $2.50=$10.
2)Box Quinella 6 runners=$15
Suggestion........
Same deal
Make 1 a banker and couple it with the other 5 runners @$3=$15
As you can no doubt see,if your main selections are sound you will multiply your divvies by 2 or 3 at the same cost as a box.
Betting to prices and a target take out per meeting,not per race is the way to go.
cheers

Angel417
To say favorites win 30% of the time is true but they win up to 80% when their odds pay $1.30 and only 15% at SP price of $5. The trick is to get advantage
Beton

Hi, Angel417.

I've found that in the long run betting to prices will more or less have the same result as level betting PROVIDING there are not too many selections. I noticed this years ago when I was betting at the TAB using Mark Read's ratings for the exotics and the Win. My current records show this has not changed. It only takes one or two large divvies to obtain a daily profit.

With my quinellas, the minimum runners per race is 9 where hopefully the fave is not too short, and as Beton has stated that the longer the price of the fave the lesser chance it has of winning. I am hoping that when the fave does not win or run second then I will get the quinella, and as the fave is often overbet in exotics (especially the quaddie) I am also hoping the quinella divvy will be worthwhile. I have struck some good divvies over the past few weeks which unfortunately were prior to listing the selections here. After saying that, I had a $102 quinella yesterday where the total outlay for the day was $80 for a return of $114.

Today's selections are:
Rocky R6 nos. 1, 2, 4, 5, 8 (no.3)
Rocky R7 nos. 1, 5, 6, 7, 9, 13 (no.3)
Rocky R8 nos. 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 10 (no.8)

Total outlay of $40.