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Old 3rd December 2015, 07:39 AM
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And Ipswich yesterday:

Reprimands
Race 1. App. C. Schmidt use whip more than 5 times prior to the 100m AR. 137A(5)(a)(ii)
Race 3. T. Harrison use whip more than 5 times prior to the 100m AR. 137A(5)(a)(ii)
Race 6. R. Fradd use whip more than 5 times prior to the 100m AR. 137A(5)(a)(ii)
Race 8. App. B. Appo use whip more than 5 times prior to the 100m AR. 137A(5)(a)(ii)
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Old 3rd December 2015, 07:45 AM
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And Bunbury yesterday:

* Race 2. Jockey Willie White GRAND ALLIANCE $150 ARR.137A(4)(c) and (d)
for using an unnecessary amount of whip when his mount was out of
contention and showing no response.

Race 8. Apprentice Randy Tan (TRULY MAGICAL) was warned under the
provisions of the recently amended AR.137A(5)(a)(ii) for using the whip on
one additional occasion than permitted prior to the 100m.

* Not part of new whip rules?
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Old 3rd December 2015, 08:09 AM
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And William Hill Park Hillside yesterday:

R3 Testability - slow into stride. Apprentice Ben Thompson was warned for using his whip on six occasions prior to the 100m which is one time more than permitted. Rider Ben Thompson said his mount would appreciate a track with more give.

R6 Ten Goals - rider Craig Williams was warned for using his whip six times prior to the 100m which is one time more than permitted. Craig Williams reported his mount, which was first up today, had to work hard in the early stages and this was detrimental to its chances when unable to finish off as expected.

R8 Monogram - steadied off the heels of Samertha Heights passing the 400m. Rider Craig Williams was warned for using his whip six times prior to the 100m which is one time more than permitted.

R8 Taylahs Secret - checked near the 100m to avoid the heels of Arianne (NZ) which shifted in before being straightened by its rider, Ryan Maloney. Rider Patrick Moloney was warned for using his whip seven times prior to the 100m, which is two times more than permitted under the new rules.

R8 Kelkea - rider Harry Coffey was warned for using his whip eight times prior to the 100m which is three times more than permitted under the new rules. H Coffey stated in his opinion it would be suited on tracks with more give.
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Old 3rd December 2015, 08:13 AM
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And Canterbury yesterday:

R4 Progressive was held up rounding the home turn and in the early part of the straight. Rider J McDonald was spoken to regarding using the whip in a backhand manner on consecutive occasions prior to the 100m

R4 Miss Denni laid in under pressure in the straight. Rider B Shinn was spoken to regarding using the whip in a backhand manner on consecutive occasions prior to the 100m
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Old 8th December 2015, 08:28 AM
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Still lots of reprimands, now also seeing some fines.
For example:

Rockhampton 3 Dec
Race 1: Apprentice N. Vuille $100 - use whip more than 5 times and in consecutive manner prior to 100m. (A.R.137A)

Doomben 5 Dec
Race 3: R. Fradd $200 use whip in consecutive strides and more than 5 times prior to 100m AR. 137A(5)(a)(i) & (ii)
Race 9: C. Williams $200 use whip more than 5 times prior to 100m AR. 137A(5)(a)(ii)

Wagga 5 Dec
Race 3: Ms M. Taylor(a)- $200- Whip use- AR137A(5)(a)(ii)

Sunshine Coast 6 Dec
Race 1: Apprentice N. Vuille $100 - use whip more than 5 times and in consecutive manner prior to 100m. (A.R.137A)

Murray Bridge 6 Dec
Race 2 J. Kah (EXALTED LIGHTNING) Fined $100 AR137A(5)(a)(ii)[+8] Whip offence.

Terang 7 Dec
Race 10 Anthony Boyd $200, consecutive whip use
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Old 12th December 2015, 02:30 PM
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Queensland jockeys struggling a bit with the new whip rule
A total of 24 breaches of the rule have been recorded across eight TAB meetings in the first five days
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Old 17th December 2015, 02:44 PM
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I can understand if your horse is a chance or you need to get out of trouble, but of all these breaches in the rules, very few resulted in even placings.
If your horse is gone, it's gone.
This is where a great deal of damage is done to the horse, the horse doesn't have the capability of determining the cause of hurt in a race situation. It leads to bleeding, fractures, heart attacks, broken legs, muscle cartilage damage, shin splints and bowed tendons because the horse will over extend beyond it's limits.
This is why so many breakdowns occur and why many good horses lose all form.
If you've got a lap full of horse and don't think you'll make it to the line, then use the whip. If you're leading or chasing the leader and you think you have a chance use the whip. But belting the living daylights out of a no hoper (this race) does nobody any favours.
Trainers can say "you didn't use the whip enough", but that's just an excuse, I'm quite sure the trainer would rather have a sound horse to go on with, than a breakdown, vets, osteopaths, chiropractors etc etc.
Stewards aren't going to penalise a jockey when the horse is struggling for not using the whip.
Just my opinion.
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Old 18th December 2015, 04:19 AM
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In NZ you see very little whip use before the home bend.

The rule here is a jockey can use the whip on six consecutive strides at any part of the race then the rider must place the whip hand back on the reins for six consecutive strides.

From the 200m whip use is unrestricted provided the horse is in contention for a stake-bearing place.
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Old 27th December 2015, 11:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rhino82
Still lots of reprimands, now also seeing some fines.

Victorian stewards have been giving jockeys two warnings & two reprimands before the penalties increase to fines
ample time to become accustomed to the new rule imo
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Old 28th December 2015, 07:22 PM
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Interesting (related) article on the RSPCA website

http://www.rspca.org.au/campaigns/w...hip-use-jockeys
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