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Old 5th August 2019, 01:04 AM
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Default Retirement Staking Plan Query

For the likes of me, I can not make this plan show a profit, on a break even set of level stakes figures.

Yet it was hailed by many as the best staking plan ever.

How can so many, be so wrong

What have others found with this thing.
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Old 5th August 2019, 01:58 AM
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Like you neither could I.

Probably the best and safest staking plan is to return % of bank betting to Fixed Prices.

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Old 5th August 2019, 02:34 PM
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I always found when playing with it on paper, you would eventually hit a bad run and end up putting so many divisors in additional targets that you would end up in a hole you would never dig out, or take months to do so.

Like everything it works fine on a regular flow of winners, unfortunately the real world doesn't work like that as many are all too aware.
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Old 5th August 2019, 04:08 PM
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I like the Martingale system, you win or you lose, no in between.
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Old 5th August 2019, 06:12 PM
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The only way I was able to get the Retirement Staking Plan to work was to never let the divisor get below the Initial Divisor.

For example Bank $100

Target $35
Divisor 7
Bet $5

After 1 loss Bank $95

Target $40
Divisor 7
Bet $6

After 2 losses Bank $89

Target $46
Divisor 7
Bet $7

On 3rd bet back a $4.00 winner, collect $28.00 Bank $110.00

Normally 4th bet would be

Target $35
Divisor 3
Bet $12

My variation reverts to opening bet

Target $35
Divisor 7
Bet $5

Even using this modification for a certain tipster (no names), without any additional safety brakes

Target $2703
Divisor $7
Bet $386

Without regular collects you are forever chasing your tail. I find betting to collect a certain aim (say $50) works best for me.

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Old 5th August 2019, 06:51 PM
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Martingale systems only work on very high strike rate systems.

Try it on a place system instead that is going about 70%+ and is at least level stakes profit.
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Old 6th August 2019, 04:54 AM
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Hi Try Try.

I notice on that $4.00= (3/1) collect, you reduced the divisor by 4pts.
which is the more aggressive way to get this plan to sort of perform better.

The original rules would work to fractional odds in its reduction of divisor.
In this case 7-3= 4 being the next divisor instead of your next bet, 3 divisor after winning bet.

This is where I feel the plan starts to fall down.
It should perform stronger, reducing by what decimal points e.g. $4.00= 4pt reduction of divisor. Instead of fractional points 3/1= 3pt reduction of divisor, as per original plan rules.
AND
Restart as soon as any profit is made, like you did, rather than continuing up the tree, hoping to totally clear the Target amt.(As per original rules) because that can become a death trap, due to the stakes becoming higher & higher on a bad run.
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Old 6th August 2019, 11:07 AM
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Thanks Bagwan,

I'll relook at my sheets taking in your advice.

My preference is still to bet to prices to collect a predetermined amount. I find this works best for me.

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Old 6th August 2019, 11:52 PM
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Hi Try Try.

I have also found , betting to actual price , generally works well.
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Old 7th August 2019, 11:40 AM
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I like the Martingale system, you win or you lose, no in between.


LOL I can second that.

I took $50 to $1800 quickly just under 5 weeks, then lost it in two days!!
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