makybe diva

[BORDI]

did everyone see her run in the memsie? what a super horse. best thing i have seen...

[xptdriver]

did everyone see her run in the memsie? what a super horse. best thing i have seen...

I am not arguing :)

[Sportz]

I didn't get to see or hear it. :(

[Hammers]

A great win from a great mare but she did beat a tired bunch of out - of - form grey beards.

As long as Melbourne produces its usual wet spring weather she will be the local horse to beat in every race she contests. The WFA ranks are as thin as I can ever remember and the Diva will cash in on her good fortune.

[Duritz]

Hammers - saying Makybe Diva is a only wet tracker is like saying Bradman was only good against spinners.

You might recall a little race we have called the Australia Cup? It's run at WFA over 2000m at Flemington. She won that on what was a Fast track but officially rated good. Yeah, broke the track record that day.

As a 4yo mare she also won a little Group 2 race called the St. Leger at Flemington, over 2500m on a dry track. OK, she didn't break the track record THAT day on the dry, but she did happen to run a sub 33 final 600m sectional, which is pretty handy.

Oh silly me - amongst the other dry track wins of this wet tracker was another little one I missed. Not sure what race it was but it was over 3200m at Flemington in early November 2003. Won that too. Rated good.

Cheers.

[Raw Instinct]

Makybe Diva is one of the best horses I have seen she has a dynamic finish on her one of the best you will see anywhere. The thing is she didn't handle that track over in Japan even though it had rained there for a couple of days leading upto the race, I remember Freedman saying for some reason no matter how much it rained over there the tracks stayed like rock harder than any track she is ever likely to run on over here.

[angel417]

A great win by an incredible mare.Never won below 1600mtrs and never won first up!I did my gonads on the Roller,didn't get beaten by much and can't figure why the jockey stayed on the inside where the going was slowest.
What are the southern papers saying about MD running in the big one again?
All the QLD papers I have read up till now keep quoting Freedman as saying she is being aimed at the Cox Plate and wont run in the Cup this year.
He is also being quoted as saying that is the race he is training her for,and it is not possible for him to set her for both races as they are run too close together.He also said He is waiting for owner Tony Santic to advise him on which race he wants to target,talk about confusion!!
My only thought is that they are waiting for the weights to come out this week,and will decide then.
Vic has a new handicapper now,will be interesting to see what he allocates her,and my guess is that Lee is well aware of that,so the Cox at WFA is the go.
Feel sorry for all those that got sucked in by that TAB/SKY promotion offering $21 MD/Vinnie Roe.
I think they should be drawn and quartered.
So many so called "experts" in both of those outlets would have been well aware that a)she probably wont run in the race
b)Vinnie may not even come over yet!
So everyone that backed either(Maykbe betting closed within hours)will more than likely do their money cold assuming that the normal"all in" applies.

PS
A free tip for the Cup..........Vouvray
you heard it first here

[angel417]

PPS
Even if they do both run they will be carrying the grandstand between them.
My assumptionn may be wrong so feel free to correct me,but I am tipping that she will get around 61kgs and vinnie 60kgs.If she was mine I would go with Lee.And I would save my money and leave Vinnie at home.

[w924]

A couple of hours before Makybe Diva ran her great race, a horse in New Zealand by the name of EXCELLENT had the experts and punters going wild, after it missed the kick badly and came from last to absolutely blitz its opposition. To see two races like that on the same day in both countries, means that it must be Spring...perfect fodder for the media...

watch out for Excellent when it arrives...could be the next big thing to come out of New Zealand since Sunline, Rough Habit, Horlicks, Kiwi, Bonecrusher ..take your pick...

I'm taking nothing away from Makybe Diva..its record says it all....regardless of the quality of its opposition on Saturday..

[BORDI]

hey raw

my opinion is that makybe diva did get enough preparation tym over in japan. freedman did say all along the tracks were too hard and coming out of it with those cuts and bruises proves it was. for her to come back from that and beat one of (if not the best) 1400m runner going around and at is track says this mare can do anything. in my opinion sending makybe diva to europe would be a better option as i feel the weather conditions would suit her better. also it is true she is atm only preparing for a cox plate run, but i would not be surprised if she could win the melb cup on that prep. she is a super horse and there will b no better :D

[Raw Instinct]

I think Vouvray will be best suited for the Caulfield Cup actually and she is my pick to take that out, Railings is a roughie I like for the Melbourne Cup it might be a year early for him but you never know, He is certainly bred well enough to get the 2 miles by Zabeel out of a Palace Music mare.

[angel417]

Raw,
I was of the same opinion re the Caulfield Cup,but Peter Moody has stated in the press up here that he does not care about the CC,he is setting her specifically for the big one.Maybe a smokescreen???Or maybe she could win both??Big run the other day,I had 20x20,she came from a long way back to run about 5th.

[Mark]

angel, wish I'd taken some of the 20's on the TAB, could lay it off on Betfair @14 & 15.

[Raw Instinct]

Angel

Could be a smokescreen don't know she will get into both races with not alot of weight on top and has to be a serious chance to win either if not both of those races I just felt the 2400m might be more up her alley then the 3200m could be wrong though.

I thought hers was the best run of the day the day she returned really hit the line nicely.

[Hammers]

Hi Duritz,

What an excitable character! Hope you can keep a lid on it with all the big races coming up. Just a few points ...

1. I didn't say MD was only a wet tracker. Please cut and paste my quote if I am wrong. What I said was she'd be the best of the locals if the tracks were rain affected. I'm fully aware she broke a course record at Flemington on a good track but so did Winning Belle on the same day. I feel her most dominant wins against quality opposition have been the 04 Melb Cup defeating Vinnie Roe and the 05 BMW beating Grand Armee - both on rain affected tracks. She's excellent on all types of tracks. I believe she has a greater advantage over her likely opposition this spring if the tracks are damp. Read carefully next time.

2. Makybe Diva has never contested a St Leger. You are confused.

3. MD has only won 2 of her last 12 starts on good tracks which is clearly below her overall strike rate. A noteworthy stat.

4. Don't let fly with condescending arguments particularly when you base them on things I didn't even say or allude to. Doubly don't let fly when your argument is backed by "facts" which are erroneous. And lastly, don't get out of your league.

[Duritz]

Yeah not St Leger - you know the race I mean though. Hopeless with race names.

Will agree to your points, bar the last: don't get out of your league? Bit of an assumption there, a bit of a smug one too. You don't know what my "league" is, and if you did and you thought I was out of it, it would still be an arrogant thing to say.

Your post was reading so well too, I was agreeing and thinking "Yeah I was a bit hasty in my proud defence of MD", until I read that last bit.

Aah well.

Re Vouvray for whoever it was who tipped her - weights will be the key there. Big day Thursday.

[xanadu]

The great mare powers on to further Group 1 glory this preparation. She ran an outstanding race today and after making a last-ditched lunge at Lad Of The Manor on the line just failed by a small margin.
She is right on target to emulate her Group1 success of recent years.
If she succeeds thay should decree a special holiday: "Makybe Diva Day."

Cheers.