Magic Millions Day Quaddie

[Horse Whisperer]

These are the races they used last year so I assum they will be the same this year. Very open and I'm thinking it's going to be a small percentage taken here. Thoughts on the races from you guys?

6-03.00 $1,000,000 QUEENSLAND RACING MAGIC MILLIONS 3YO TROPHY (1400 METRES)
Of $820000. 1st $570000, 2nd $150000, 3rd $75000, 4th $25000.
For Three-Years-Old. Set Weights plus Penalties.
No Allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 16 + 5 EM
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Handicapper
Rating
1 SHOOT OUT John Wallace Stathi Katsidis 7 57
2 CHOISTAR Tony Sears Brad Pengelly 4 56.5
3 LOVE CONQUERS ALL Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Darren Beadman 5 56.5
4 DOUBLE HEART Helen Page Jason Taylor 3 56.5
5 TEMPLE OF BOOM Tony Gollan Michael Cahill 15 56
6 DOUBTFUL JACK Peter G Moody Luke Nolen 1 56
7 SPOT ON TARGET Howard Wilson Danny Nikolic 14 56
8 CAPTAIN SONADOR Roger Milne Chris Munce 12 56
9 LATIN NEWS Bart Cummings Glyn Schofield 20 56
10 FANTASTIC BLUE Paul N Nolan Shane Scriven 8 56
11 GRACEFUL ANNA David Pfieffer Peter Robl 10 55
12 DEER VALLEY Steele Ryan Daniel Ganderton (a) 9 55
13 PRINCESS QUALO Robert Heathcote Larry Cassidy 6 54
14 TALLOW Anthony Cummings Corey Brown 16 54
15 EMMA'S HEART Bruce Brown Glen Boss 19 54
16 FEMINA FASHION Trevor Whittington Jason Holder 2 54
17e KNOT OUT Paul Messara Glen Colless 18 56
18e MOONLIGHT HUSSEY Gillian Heinrich 13 54
19e SURF'S UP Bruce W Hill Paul Hammersley 17 56
20e FAST LOVER Maryann Thexton Jim Byrne 21 56
21e OURKOHINOOR Jan Pritchard 11 54

7-03.40 $2,000,000 BMW MAGIC MILLIONS 2YO CLASSIC (1200 METRES)
Of $1640000. 1st $1140000, 2nd $300000, 3rd $150000, 4th $50000.
For Two-Years-Old. Set Weights.
No Allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 16 + 5 EM
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Handicapper
Rating
1 BRIGHTEXPECTATIONS Gai Waterhouse Nash Rawiller 15 56
2 MUNDI GULLY Julie Green Dennis Whitmore 18 56
3 JANTZEN Helen Page Jason Taylor 21 56
4 SPIRIT OF BOOM Tony Gollan Kristy Banks 13 56
5 MARKING TIME Alan Bailey Glen Colless 1 56
6 EXTREME MOVER Gai Waterhouse Blake Shinn 16 56
7 STARTSMEUP Bruce W Hill Paul Hammersley 19 56
8 EBONY ROCK David Hayes Brad Rawiller 2 56
9 MILITARY ROSE Gillian Heinrich Stathi Katsidis 4 54
10 TOUGH LUCK Robert Bradshaw Jim Byrne 14 54
11 TRIPLE CROWN Gary Portelli Craig Williams 9 54
12 DEMANDING MISS Barry Baldwin Chris Munce 8 54
13 AMBERS WALTZ John O'Shea Corey Brown 17 54
14 RED BELLY BLACK David Hayes Glen Boss 6 54
15 RINGA RINGA ROSIE Bevan & Richard Laming Michael Cahill 12 54
16 WANDERING STAR Liam Birchley Brad Pengelly 11 54
17e TRICARICO David Hayes 20 56
18e PARIS BLU Barry Baldwin Anthony Pattillo 3 54
19e MR DE LAGO Stephen Jones 5 56
20e POWER OF ED Helen Page 10 56
21e CUDDLES FOR NAARA John P Thompson 7 54

8-04.20 R.M. WILLIAMS MAGIC MILLIONS CUP HANDICAP (1400 METRES)
Of $410000. 1st $285000, 2nd $75000, 3rd $37500, 4th $12500.
Quality.
No Allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 16 + 5 EM
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Handicapper
Rating
1 O'LONHRO Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Darren Beadman 9 58.5 105
2 VOICE COMMANDER Nick Olive Tye Angland 17 56.5 102
3 HEART OF THE CITI Pat Duff Michael Cahill 3 55.5 100
4 HARD TO CATCH Pat Duff Joe Bowditch 5 55 99
5 EGO'S DARE Gerald Ryan Blake Shinn 4 53.5 96
6 WALKING OR DANCING (NZ) Brett Partelle Glen Boss 12 53.5 96
7 ZERO ROCK Kelso Wood Brad Pengelly 8 53 97
8 VOCALIC Neville O Saunders 2 53 95
9 MR SLICK (NZ) ****** Karakatsanis Craig Williams 13 53 94
10 MASAI PRIDE Bryan Guy Jim Byrne 15 53 91
11 MR UNFORGETTABLE Kevin Moses Corey Brown 11 53 89.5
12 BOLD GLANCE Norm Hilton Kristy Banks 14 53 87.5
13 MORNING COLOURS Bryan Guy Paul Hammersley 6 53 84
14 MR ORIENT Peter Balzen Chris Munce 1 53 84
15 LIGHT RED David Murphy 7 53 83
16 WOORIM Robert Heathcote Danny Nikolic 16 53 82
17e AGNES DREAM Alan Bailey 10 53 79.5

9-05.00 SKY RACING MAGIC MILLIONS CLASS 6 PLATE (1200 METRES)
Of $82000. 1st $57000, 2nd $15000, 3rd $7500, 4th $2500.
CLASS 6. Set Weights.
No Allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 16 + 5 EM
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Handicapper
Rating
1 AGNES DREAM Alan Bailey Glen Colless 9 57.5
2 ESPRIT LAD Richard Jackson 16 57.5
3 KING LEONIDAS Bryan Guy 21 57.5
4 ANOTHER TAKEOVER David Kelly 5 56
5 BLUE JUPITER Liam Birchley Stathi Katsidis 6 56
6 CAT EYES Kelso Wood Brad Pengelly 13 56
7 LENNON Lindsay Gough 11 56
8 RELEASE ME Jason McLachlan Jim Byrne 17 56
9 TENFOLD Mel Eggleston 20 56
10 GUNDY SON Robert Heathcote Danny Nikolic 1 54.5
11 SILVERN Jason McLachlan 8 54.5
12 TOOTSIE ZYNSKY Helen Page 14 54
13 ACADEMY MAGIC Bill Baker 12 53
14 ELMSFORD Gerald Ryan Blake Shinn 19 53
15 SOULIMA Harry Reed Larry Cassidy 10 53
16 SHARUFA Bryan Guy Luke Rolls (a) 18 51
17e DARDAN Trevor Bailey Daniel Griffin 2 57.5
18e KNOT OUT Paul Messara 4 53
19e THE SIXTIES Tracy Green Jason Holder 3 54.5
20e JOHN'S GEM Trevor Bailey 7 51
21e FIELDS OF PLENTY Rex Lipp 15 53

[Horse Whisperer]

At a glance my early thoughts are:
L1 - 1 2 3 6 9 11 12 13 14
L2 - 4 5 9 11 13 15
L3 - 1 2 3 6 7 16
L4 - 1 4 5 15
But that is just a very early quick look.

[Makybe Diva]

At a glance my early thoughts are:
L1 - 1 2 3 6 9 11 12 13 14
L2 - 4 5 9 11 13 15
L3 - 1 2 3 6 7 16
L4 - 1 4 5 15
But that is just a very early quick look.

I wouldn't leave Gundy Son out of the last race

[Horse Whisperer]

haha I actually saw that after I posted but thought ahh ill wait till I actually go over the form properly. Like Blue Jupiter in that race though, think it could be a good e/w bet.

[Horse Whisperer]

Ok so of course they have changed it from last year so the class 6 on the end is no longer in the quaddie. It is 5,6,7,8 so we will add the MM Stayers race to it.

5-02.20 JOHNNIE WALKER MAGIC MILLIONS STAYERS CUP HANDICAP (1800 METRES)
Of $212500. 1st $150000, 2nd $37500, 3rd $18750, 4th $6250.
Quality.
No Allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 14 + 5 EM
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Handicapper
Rating
1 PEPPERWOOD Liam Birchley Michael Cahill 17 57.5 100
2 EXPRESS AIR Rex Lipp Stathi Katsidis 8 53.5 95
3 HONOUR HAPPY LIST Steven O'dea Ryan Wiggins 2 53 92
4 LA ZEEL (NZ) Les Kelly Justin P Stanley 7 53 90
5 REGAL CASTANEA Ron Macrae Anthony Pattillo 5 53 88
6 SEESAWING Kelly Schweida Jim Byrne 11 53 87
7 ENCOSTA TSZYU Brian Smith Joe Bowditch 13 53 85
8 CHILLED Maryann Thexton Kelly Purdy 12 53 84
9 HIDDEN WONDER Kris Lees Larry Cassidy 1 53 84
10 UNCLE JAN Matt Kropp Mitchell Speers (a) 14 53 84
11 CENTOVER Toby Edmonds Chris Munce 10 53 83
12 JAZZ HEART Bryan Guy Blake Shinn 9 53 81
13 ADNOCON Gerald Ryan Corey Brown 18 53 80
14 CONFESSIONAL Kevin Moses Glen Boss 4 53 78
15e UNDER THE COUNTER Barry Baldwin 16 53 72
16e MANSTON John Dann 6 53 68
17e FIELD DICTATOR Terry Evans 3 53 68
18e CAPE CHIVAS Bryan Guy 15 53 67


Not that it makes things any easier.

[Makybe Diva]

Ok so of course they have changed it from last year so the class 6 on the end is no longer in the quaddie. It is 5,6,7,8 so we will add the MM Stayers race to it.

5-02.20 JOHNNIE WALKER MAGIC MILLIONS STAYERS CUP HANDICAP (1800 METRES)
Of $212500. 1st $150000, 2nd $37500, 3rd $18750, 4th $6250.
Quality.
No Allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 14 + 5 EM
No Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Handicapper
Rating
1 PEPPERWOOD Liam Birchley Michael Cahill 17 57.5 100
2 EXPRESS AIR Rex Lipp Stathi Katsidis 8 53.5 95
3 HONOUR HAPPY LIST Steven O'dea Ryan Wiggins 2 53 92
4 LA ZEEL (NZ) Les Kelly Justin P Stanley 7 53 90
5 REGAL CASTANEA Ron Macrae Anthony Pattillo 5 53 88
6 SEESAWING Kelly Schweida Jim Byrne 11 53 87
7 ENCOSTA TSZYU Brian Smith Joe Bowditch 13 53 85
8 CHILLED Maryann Thexton Kelly Purdy 12 53 84
9 HIDDEN WONDER Kris Lees Larry Cassidy 1 53 84
10 UNCLE JAN Matt Kropp Mitchell Speers (a) 14 53 84
11 CENTOVER Toby Edmonds Chris Munce 10 53 83
12 JAZZ HEART Bryan Guy Blake Shinn 9 53 81
13 ADNOCON Gerald Ryan Corey Brown 18 53 80
14 CONFESSIONAL Kevin Moses Glen Boss 4 53 78
15e UNDER THE COUNTER Barry Baldwin 16 53 72
16e MANSTON John Dann 6 53 68
17e FIELD DICTATOR Terry Evans 3 53 68
18e CAPE CHIVAS Bryan Guy 15 53 67


Not that it makes things any easier.

Including a bit of value, I'd go 1,2,5,7,9 and hope none of the favs get up.

[Horse Whisperer]

I'm not going to leave out the 3 in that race MD, really think it could improve with the distance jump and being on a track it likes.

[Makybe Diva]

I'm not going to leave out the 3 in that race MD, really think it could improve with the distance jump and being on a track it likes.

Yeh I was thinking about including it and perhaps Centover.

[Horse Whisperer]

I think I'm going to go very wide in this quaddie tomorrow. This track scares me....

Looking at 1 3 5 6 9 10 for the first leg.

I have a soft spot for Jazz Heart and the horse improved out of sight for this same meeting last year when it came third in the Magic Millions 3yo sitting 3 wide the whole trip and missed out by about half a length from memory. So depending how wide I go in the other legs I might have to include that one.

[samboss]

Gday mate,

Im on board with the following:

1,2,3,5,6,12
1,2,3,8
1,4,9,12,14,15
1,3,7,8,16

7 per cent of Dividend

Good luck with your picks. You know I cant go by Stathi Katsidis. Ill also do a S.K All up in races 5,6,7,9. Happy punting.

[Horse Whisperer]

L1 - 2, 3, 5, 6, 10
L2 - 1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14
L3 - 1, 4, 5, 9, 11, 12, 14, 15
L4 - 1, 3, 5, 7, 11, 16

$200 = 9%

not overly confident, could almost have taken field field in the 2yo and 3yo race and taken about another 5 in the Cup. Oh well see how we go.

[Makybe Diva]

L1- 5,7,9,14
L2- 1,2,3,12
L3- 4,11,15,16
L4- 1,5,9

$200 = 104%

[Makybe Diva]

Argh! Why did Warrior Girl have to come so quick

[Makybe Diva]

After T.Pattillo probably cost me the race in the last after annoying FF, he'd better get Regal Castanea home in the next

[Abs]

L1- 2,3,5,6,9,10
L2- 1,2,3,11,12,14
L3- 4,9,11,12,14,15
L4- 1,3,5,7,9,16

4.5%

GL all ;)

[Makybe Diva]

Not a good start for you HW

[Horse Whisperer]

i don't know what I did hey, when i put the numbers up the first time I had it. I put my bet on same as the numbers I put up here, thought I had it. Never wanted express air. I'm so mad at myself right now no idea what I was thinking, major brain explosion.

[Abs]

still alive, but tallow would have been sweet

[Makybe Diva]

L1- 5,7,9,14
L2- 1,2,3,12
L3- 4,11,15,16
L4- 1,5,9

$200 = 104%

Trying to be a bit cheap, I'm gone.

[Abs]

terrible, i hate quaddie betting, don't no why i waste my time and more importantly my money...

[Makybe Diva]

A little bit ew on the Sixties in the 9th saved me from a very bad day

[Horse Whisperer]

Another terrible magic millions day for me.

I dont think I have ever had a good win on the day....oh well

Results after 6 weeks:
Outlay:$1200
Return: $4623
Profit: $3423

Back to Brisbane next week and hopefully a change in fortune.

[Ade]

Best to go wide in quaddies.

[Abs]

Best to go wide in quaddies.But if you go much wider than 24 selection, say 28 then ur percentage goes well done and quaddie was 4.5k hmmmm.

Unless u hit a massive 15k plus quaddie

[Ade]

I wonder what is the best quaddie strategy then.

[Abs]

I wonder what is the best quaddie strategy then.I seems i either go wide and the quaddie is small so i lose money or a bolter ruins everything. Just from my experience. I am sure some have won big.

[Makybe Diva]

I wonder what is the best quaddie strategy then.

Don't have a crack at it.

[Abs]

Don't have a crack at it.After about 10 goes in the last month i have to agree, better off putting 100 on a tri/first 4 in one race and going wide i reckon.

[Horse Whisperer]

The closest I have come to a big payout (for me) was on Toorak/Guineas day last year. Had 4 going into the last leg, the 3 fav's paying a minimum of $35k and a roughie paying $360k. I had 10% and of course didn't include Our Lorna who won the race. I will never forget that horse, it would have cost me an extra $50 to box the field and still keep my 10% payout and would have won me just over $10k. Oh well.

[maverick1993]

The best strategy is not to have a go at the Quaddie just for the sake of it , If you like a couple of the races and have a couple of selections you think are way over the odds then have a crack.

I think its all about trusting your ratings . Not just Quaddies but i'll look at Exactas, Quinys , Tris , 1st4s , trebles , extra doubles and doubles. Depending on how my ratings work out and what races the exotic legs fall on.

Last week Walking or Dancing should never had been at those odds , He was out of sorts a little down in Melbourne but previous to that had shown he was more than capable against that lot. Hes a horse i've followed for awhile . The race he was in has been good to me , last year Masai Pride won at ridiculous odds aswell and he's a horse thats an enigma but a fav of mine as i've seen first hand the times he can run. Then again i never rated the race (and last year) because its the time of the year i'm on the road visiting family and friends and holidaying (and checking out the sale) so if i rated the race i might have found a reason not to back it maybe ??

anyway H/W has proven you can profit on the Quaddie , i know its early days but it'll be interesting to see if he has the stamina to go on for about a year ;)

Good luck , you're doing well :)

[Horse Whisperer]

I'm not looking to stop posting these up anytime soon Mav and It would be interesting to see how I go after a year. It only takes a couple of nice results to keep you in front and I generally go for the horses I consider value coupled with the obvious favourites. I've found your better putting the extra couple in for a few less % and getting a smaller payout than missing it completely. Either way I find them a fun way to bet.

I'm going to Melbourne for the blue diamond in february so can't wait to have a crack at the Big 6 down there! Last time I was there I put one on for about $20 had 65% and missed the third leg, threw my ticket away and didnt realise they paid a dividend on 5/6. Woops haha, it was only about $30 so nothing to cry over but still.....lol