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partypooper
28th June 2011, 02:34 PM
IAS new site changes, a big problem now as I usually observe openers and fluctuations, sometimes during racing, but often at the end of the day or next day and beyond, from what I can make out this info is longer available unless I've missed something? been on to their customer service and I may as well enquire to my 1 year old Grandson. Anyone else found a problem?

Raven
28th June 2011, 02:52 PM
I'm not surprised as they were taken over by an overseas mob recently? you might want to check readbet now, whether he has historical data, i'm not sure though.

partypooper
28th June 2011, 04:44 PM
Raven , thanks for the pointer, strangely the Read site does have the info retained for todays racing but not archived it seems , boomer!

marksto2
28th June 2011, 05:17 PM
IAS new site changes, a big problem now as I usually observe openers and fluctuations, sometimes during racing, but often at the end of the day or next day and beyond, from what I can make out this info is longer available unless I've missed something? been on to their customer service and I may as well enquire to my 1 year old Grandson. Anyone else found a problem?yeah, i clicked on todays racing and its 6:17pm at night and i getr tomorrows racing come up! only results section if i want to see them but no history of fixed odds prices and seems limited fluc info too.

Shaun
28th June 2011, 05:24 PM
Try BetChoice for todays flucs

partypooper
28th June 2011, 06:00 PM
Shaun, yes looks like I will have to swap to Betchoice, but do you realise that the openers are not the same as IAS,... well that is to say lots of em are but not all.

Its kinda like saying the PPfav, most publications its the same horse but not all.

Still, as they've moved the goalposts I'll just take the business elsewhere, especially as they don't seem to interested in replying to my e-mail, except to point me to the results section which does not address my query.

Chrome Prince
28th June 2011, 07:43 PM
Hi guys,

Yes the IAS openers are not prepost nor track openers, they are Mark Read's ratings from his ratings database rounded down to the vig.
I believe he sold the whole lock stock and barrel to Paddy Power?
I know the deal included his ratings database (or access to), surely he must be potty????

And during the site upgrade one was able to get all fluctuations even historical ones for a time.

Then they realised "the mistake" and slammed the door in my face :eek:

Shaun
28th June 2011, 08:45 PM
Hi guys,

Yes the IAS openers are not prepost nor track openers, they are Mark Read's ratings from his ratings database rounded down to the vig.
I believe he sold the whole lock stock and barrel to Paddy Power?
I know the deal included his ratings database (or access to), surely he must be potty????

And during the site upgrade one was able to get all fluctuations even historical ones for a time.

Then they realised "the mistake" and slammed the door in my face :eek:

I guess if you were after true openers that IAS was not the site to use in the first place, Mark has always said BetChoice was more realistic to prices.

partypooper
28th June 2011, 10:40 PM
Yes, Shaun, I agree to a point as I made some comparisons for a while but found IAS easier for what I wanted.

Chrome, i suspect you are not happy iether?

Chrome Prince
28th June 2011, 10:51 PM
Yeah not happy.

As IAS are pure ratings, and Betchoice are track openers, it's not a question of which is more accurate or more correctly which is more profitable.

IAS kills track odds for ratings.

IAS are ratings done by the best in the business.
Track odds are done by Vince Aspinall, with an adjusment for early money (prepost).
Then the bookies play follow the leader.

A simple indication and quantification is that one can make a killing backing horses that open shorter on track than IAS openers.
A double edge is to be had laying those that open longer on track than IAS openers.

But we've been down this road before, better go before the next ebook or website is launched by the plagiarists out there.

You know who you are >:(

partypooper
28th June 2011, 10:59 PM
hahahah! I was thinking exactly the same thing Chrome, but I played it pretty close to the chest as it was you that first opened my eyes, but just one question..... I haven't checked but are Readbet, openers now the same as IAS openers?????? curious,

Chrome Prince
28th June 2011, 11:10 PM
Yep ;)

partypooper
28th June 2011, 11:23 PM
guess you're cruising in the UK at the mo? (Chrome)

Shaun
29th June 2011, 12:07 AM
I wonder how Way2Bet compare with Readbet as that is what i am using for Marks other thread.

Bhagwan
29th June 2011, 09:41 AM
IAS sold their ratings program to Paddy Power ahh?

How much did he sell the operation for.

I wanted that program .
Why wasn't I informed, so I could make an offer- Not fair!

Mark
29th June 2011, 12:23 PM
I find the Readbet site easier to get around as well.

marksto2
29th June 2011, 05:29 PM
New site good however no race refresh button or countdown timer either to race start.

This is a step backwards and then you cannot get the flucs and fixed odd changes after each race now. Just the results.

IAS please fix these things as this is a step backward! Anyone else notice

peter m
29th June 2011, 09:29 PM
IAS please fix these things as this is a step backward! Anyone else notice Yes, I noticed last night, thought it was my ancient computer playing up to start with until I read this thread this afternoon.
I like to look at past results and the IAS opening prices when researching certain things. Now that seems a thing of the past but as someone else mentioned Betchoice maybe a good alternative

jackact
30th June 2011, 02:54 PM
Hi Partypooper,
Do you have a feel for how different the IAS Premier Rates are from R&S Neurals, or Unitab rates. For example, an upcoming race at Sale on 30th June, R9, has 9,8,4 as the first three picks in order, the same order as Unitab rates for that race, and the first two in Neurals are 9,8. Thoughts? Are there any other free rates that are worth a look?
Cheers, Jackact

partypooper
30th June 2011, 08:34 PM
Hi Partypooper,
Do you have a feel for how different the IAS Premier Rates are from R&S Neurals, or Unitab rates. For example, an upcoming race at Sale on 30th June, R9, has 9,8,4 as the first three picks in order, the same order as Unitab rates for that race, and the first two in Neurals are 9,8. Thoughts? Are there any other free rates that are worth a look?
Cheers, Jackact

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