WORLD XV or XI of ALL TIME

[Chuck]

i thought maybe we could have a discussion about the best composite teams ever in cricket or rugby...my thoughts so far:
XI -
J.Hobbs
L.Hutton
D.Bradman
G.Pollock
V.Richards
G.Sobers
A.Gichrist
S.Warne
M.Marshall
M.Muralitharan
D.Lillee

XV -
Os du rant
Sean Fitzpatrick
???
Colin Meads
John Eales
Zinzan Brooke
Abdel Benazzi
Michael Jones
???
Barry JOhn
Jonah Lomu
Tim Horan
Phillipe Sella
David Campese
Serge Blanco

Either of these are open for criticism...that's hwat this forums about isn;t it??? :wink:
Chuck

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[racingnovice]

J.Hobbs
L.Hutton
D.Bradman
G.Pollock
V.Richards
G.Sobers
A.Gichrist
S.Warne
M.Marshall
M.Muralitharan
D.Lillee

I would leave Muralitharan out and put in a S.pollock of J.kallis just for the all round ability and there is no real need for a 2nd spinner. This is my opinion anyway :smile:.

[sportznut]

I would leave Muralitharan out on principle.

[Chuck]

Yeah, i thought of that, but i think it adds quite a bit of variety, and if you have sobers as 3rd change then it seems no problem to have 2 spinners...If i did replace murali, it would probably be HOLDING, SPOFFORTH or LOHMANN (lohmann is basically unheard of, but he took 100 wickets in not many matches, at an average of 10.75)
Chuck

[moeee]

I was only interested in cricket during the Lillee era.
Isn't Gilchrist a wicketkeeper?.And wouldn't Rodney Marsh be preferred?.Or should I stick to AFL?.

[goldmember]

Moeee,marshy was a great keeper but was only a slugger as a batsman

[rabbitz]

Remember that time swampy broke his bat in a one day game.
What about j.laker as a bowler,took 19-90
in atest once ,still world record

[Squirter]

HEY CHUCK,

From a Kiwi view point do ya think we could get Richard Hadlee in there, or Cris Cairns who now holds the world record for 6's in a match....as for Rugby the mind boggles, for a start unfortunately Eales ( into the reserves)must go and in MUST go Willie-John Mcbride, no doubt. Half back Danie Craven ( showing me age here ) and I've just been called for tea, so cheers but hey, there'll be plenty of posts to shut us both down.

Chuck, what a bloody good post.

[Chuck]

thanx squirter
Chuck

[Chuck]

Don't know Craven too well, but what i do know is that john eales was a star player. He just got rated "the best wallaby of all time" recently, and simply dominated the game at his peak...i still think he should be there
Chuck

p.s. who do you think should be the tight head?

[Squirter]

Chuck,

Had me tea and changed me mind about 1/2 back. Nick Farr-Jones is in. Delete Benazzi and in comes Ian Kirkpatrick. Out goes Serge Blanco (reserve ) in comes J P R Williams. ( Christian Cullen reserve ) What beautiful running fullbacks in their day. And that Benazzi is hard to leave out as well....chuck 'im on tha bench.

Prop. Must be Wilson Whineray and as Captain, and yeah, we'll have Eales over McBride as lock. Shame about Micheal Lynah though and Phil Bennett was another cracker.

Interesting....saw a photo in one of my books of the 1921 New South Wales Rugby team doing an Aboriginal War Dance before a game here in the same year (1921)

You name Lomu....he's just out of Hospital after having his Kidney transplant and reckons he's got unfinisherd business in the Black jersey. Buggered if I know.

Cheers.

[Desi]

Hey guys, still in recovery stage but can't resist the temptation to chat on the forum...

Great post Chuck!

Reckon Eales has to be in the team and what about Gareth Edwards at half and some of those 1970's Lions front row...Sth Africa produced some incredible forwards and George Nepia, Don Clarke were AB greats...

I reckon Richard Hadlee was one of the most underrated players...his bowling strike rate alone rates highly and he was useful with bat in hand.

By the way, what are the odds for the Boks to win the Tri Nations?

[sportznut]

$13 at Sportstab.

[Squirter]

Desi me ole mate,

If ya go back through time re 1/2's you can talk of Laidlaw, Super Syd, Des Conners the Aussie who represented both countries, and many others, but how many come up to Farr-Jones's standard, none in my book. In Chucks team he names probably the best 1st. 5 ever to chuck on the No.10, but by having Farr-Jones at 1/2 you'd have to have Lynah at No. 10, who was right up there with the best ( but don't tell tha Aussies that they'll give me a free Pass-Port next ) Nepia ! he played 24 games out of 24 in 1924....I'd give me left ball to have seen him play....DB, nah. When JPR. played they likened him to George Nepia thats why he's got my vote, and Cullen right up his clacker. Just been called for tea.

Cheers.

,

[Squirter]

The Boks winning the tri-nations !!!!

Won't happen Desi....maybe next year at the earliest, but they're on their way back, make no mistake.

Cheers

[Mr J]

Why won't it happen? They're in a better position that NZ. Picked up bonus points from both away games. If they can win both at home, and Aus beats NZ (they will), then they're the new champs.

They pushed NZ and Aus right to the edge, think of how they'll do at home.

The series should come down to whether SA can hold both games.

[Squirter]

Mr. J,

It would be a brave man that puts money on the Boks. I can't quite see where they're in a better position than the AB's or the Wallabies for that matter. At this stage the points are.
AB's 8.
W'bies 5.
Boks 2.
If the wallabies win on Saturday they will lead by 1 point, but if the AB's loose by less than 7 they pick up 1 point which puts us back even again, then we both have the South African trip. There are so many variations regarding the bonus points and at the end of the day we have the FOR and AWAY situation where the AB's have the better record. As for Saturday night, she'll be a bloody good game.
If ya got a sack full of money stick it on the NZTAB the W'bies are paying $2.15 H2H, or $3.25, 12 and under.

Cheers.