racing in the west- new thread

[umrum]

new thread.
Sorry Paddy if I stole ur thunder :wink:

[jaffa]

Umrum

Can you please tell me of any site that I might find the results of barrier trials on

Thanks


Jaffa

[purpleheart68]

With all due respect Umrum,It is not humanly possible to steal our Paddy's thunder!!!He is the greatest asset this forum has ever had.

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-20 18:28, umrum wrote:
new thread.
Sorry Paddy if I stole ur thunder :wink:



Just a wee bit earlier than planned umrum but that's cool :wink:

I'll just have to transfer some current stuff over from the old thread.

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-20 23:36, purpleheart68 wrote:
With all due respect Umrum,It is not humanly possible to steal our Paddy's thunder!!!He is the greatest asset this forum has ever had.


Cheers purpleheart68 :oops:
This forum has had & has now, many good assets (members) contributing positively to the forum. I just do my thing & hope some people enjoy a little. Cheers again :smile:

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-20 23:33, jaffa wrote:
Umrum

Can you please tell me of any site that I might find the results of barrier trials on

Thanks

Jaffa



http://www.waturf.org.au/scripts/ws.exe/syturf/findinfo.hts

See WA Trial Details Jaffa :wink:

[Paddy]

LISTED GOODWOOD SPRINT - 1300M (21 AUG)

Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 BLEVVO D R Harrison Ms A D Sansom 5 58
2 EASTERN STANDARD Colin Webster T K Turner 1 58
3 DARK 'N' DANGEROUS K W Shanks P J Carbery 4 58
4 MAJOR METAL K J Mifflin G Lambie 7 58
5 THE TIN MAN Mrs B M Dudley P King 10 58
6 RESCUER E A Martinovich J J Brown 8 58
7 DEAD EYE DICK B P Graham D J Staeck 9 58
8 CONSTANTINOPLE V G Ferrier J P Claite 6 58
9 RIVER MIST G E Daly W A Pike (a) 2 57.5
10 STIR PAK J G Parker T Ikenushi (a) 3 55.5

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-20 20:35, Paddy wrote:
Current odds - GOODWOOD SPRINT

EASTERN STANDARD $3.40
RIVER MIST $3.60
DEAD EYE DICK $4.50
RESCUER $9.00
CONSTANTINOPLE $10.00
BLEVVO $14.00
STIR PAK $14.00
DARK N DANGEROUS $16.00
THE TIN MAN $16.00
MAJOR METAL $81.00

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-19 23:58, Geez wrote:
GOODWOOD SPRINT River Mist - Eastern Standard - Rescuer - The Tin Man

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-20 18:14, Sandgroper wrote:
The Tin Man best horse in the field but returning to racing following a break of nearly 2 years. Might surprise.
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All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

[Paddy]

Track slow Belmont today. No scratchings Goodwood.

[mug punta]

Just curious and wondered if others had thoughts. I don't follow perth racing closely but because nearly all perth racing is on good tracks is it hard to get a good form line on horses on inferior going.
My thinking being there may be good opportunity to bet wide and lob some big trifectas?
P.S Well done Paddy, iv'e been on these sites about 2 weeks and you do a great job helping out all the punters. Thanks mate

[Sandgroper]

I very seldom bet when the track is worse than dead over here mug punta. Unless I have a very clearly rated top commodity, in a good class race. And even then I will look back through the form and review any wet'ish track performances.

There’s always another investment opportunity around the corner.




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Sandgroper :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

COOLGARDIE CUP 1600m today at Kalgoorlie. Track fast. Not a bad field. $101,400 prize money. I've not rated yet but understand that Colin Webster is keen on the chance of SABRE CHIEF. Colin also has FIELD COMMANDER in the race. Fred Kersley has PRICELESS MATT and daughter Karen has CA CAO in the race.


1 SABRE CHIEF C STAPLES 14 54.5
2 CHANGING LANES DANNY MILLER 11 53.5
3 MY THORNBIRD N A CHAPMAN 7 53.5
4 AL DIDNAVADAD MS J VALAS 10 53
5 CA CAO P HALL 6 53
6 COMPETITOR T JACKMAN 3 53
7 FIELD COMMANDER C HARVEY 4 53
8 SCRATCHED LE DOLPHIN N.R 15 53
9 MERCEDARIO S PARNHAM 1 53
10 MINT PLAY C SURESH 2 53
11 NOON B PARNHAM 19 53
12 PRICELESS MATT S L O'DONNELL 9 53
13 REIGNING FORT P KNUCKEY 12 53
14 STAR OF TELESTO L CAMILLERI 5 53
15 STAR OF VAIN R HANSON 18 53
16 VIOLENT WIND B MATHEWS 8 53
17 MR. GUILTY (EM1) MS M PARSONS 13 53
18 SCRATCHED CHASSEUR (EM2) N.R 16 53
19 SCRATCHED MOROCCO BOUND N.R 17 53
20 SCRATCHED SIR BOLLINGER (EM3) N.R 20 53





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All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:



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[La Mer]

[quote]
On 2004-08-21 11:18, Sandgroper wrote:
COOLGARDIE CUP 1600m today at Kalgoorlie. Track fast.

I've got them rated:

Ca Cao $4.80
Changing Lanes $5.50
My Thornbird $6.50

Sabre Chief next best.

[Chenille Prince]

GOODWOOD SPRINT

RIVER MIST
EASTERM STANDARD
BLEVVO
STIR PAK

[Chenille Prince]

COOLGARDIE CUP

MY THORNBIRD
CA CAO
FIELD COMMANDER
PRICELESS MATT

[maverick1993]

Hi guys i dont usually look at horses way out there in groper land but i did see a huge run the other day "Maewest"...keep your eyes on that one.. :smile:

[topsy99]

who won out west. (coolgardie)

[Paddy]

06 ROSEMOUNT 3YO+
GOODWOOD STK WFA
1300 Metres
5:55pm
2ND LEG EXTRA DOUBLE
3RD LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
1 24.50 4.60
8...............3.60
10...............3.20

QUINELLA (1-8) 249.00
EXACTA (1-8) 427.00
TRIFECTA
(1-8-10) 2,727.10
SPINNER (Mixed) 1.20
FIRST 4
(1-8-10-6) 20,490.20
EXTRA DOUBLE (4-1) 156.20
SPECIAL DIV. (4-SCR) 4.70

(1) BLEVVO (A.SANSOM)
(8) CONSTANTINOPLE (J.CLAITE)
(10) STIR PAK (T.IKENUSHI)

SCR - NIL
Quadrella Sub = 2

[Paddy]

COOLGARDIE CUP

1st 12 PRICELESS MATT S L O'DONNELL 10.60 2.90
2nd 2 CHANGING LANES DANNY MILLER 4.00
3rd 7 FIELD COMMANDER C HARVEY 2.70
4th 5 CA CAO P HALL


Quinella 2-12 67.70
Exacta 12-2 155.20
Trifecta 12-2-7 965.20
Quartet 12-2-7-5 1,443.00

[Paddy]

Great result Chenille Prince, very well done!

Also cleaned up the multies at KALGOORLIE with a little help from La Mer.

[Chenille Prince]

Thanks Paddy. Had an excellent day yesterday with some other nice winners as well :smile:

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-23 18:24, Sandgroper wrote:
Track dead.

Heat: 7 900 Metres 3YO & OVER CL5-OPN Time 00:55:75
1st Conspirator William Pike Lindsey Smith 0 L
2nd Le Tru Noir Darrel Grenfell Glenn Salisbury 1/2 L
3rd Can You Dig It Eirwan Khalid David Harrison 1 1/2 L
4th Mulga King Leong Tai* Lindsey Smith 3 1/4 L
5th Northerly Patrick Carbery Fred Kersley 4 L
6th Who Did It Raquel Mills Michael Williams 4 1/2 L
7th Mogul T. Ikenushi Lindsey Smith 6 L
8th Moon Talk Alana Sansom Vernon Brockman 8 L
9th Eridamus Paul King Michael Pateman 8 1/2 L
10th Poliwhirl Stephen Miller Sharon Miller 9 1/2 L



So far so good for the champ.

[Paddy]

LISTED BELMONT PARK CUP - 2100M (Sat 28th Aug)

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 KIM LISA M Burnett 57
2 QUASAROCK B A Lewis 55.5
3 BOLD MIRAGE (NZ) Alan Mathews 52.5
4 BRIGALOW W J Miller 52.5
5 CONSPIRATOR Lindsey Smith 52.5
6 DEMARCHE V G Ferrier 52.5
7 DOMERO (NZ) J R Bull 52.5
8 ENTREPRENEURIAL Michael Miller 52.5
9 GRAND TURISMO Lou Luciani 52.5
10 IVORY LANE K L Gammon 52.5
11 LADOS Fred Kersley 52.5
12 LORD OF THE SPRING K L Grantham 52.5
13 MISS COPYCAT S L Miller 52.5
14 MOSS MINSTER S L Miller 52.5
15 OUR SELECTION J W Price 52.5
16 PRISTINE PARTNERS S J Wolfe 52.5
17 REIGNING FORT P J Miller 52.5
18 SUAVE LADY Colin Webster 52.5

[Paddy]

LISTED FARNLEY STAKES - 1400M (Sat 28th Aug)

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 NORTHERLY Fred Kersley 60
2 RIVER MIST G E Daly 55
3 AUSSIE STRIKE R B Rogers 52
4 BEYOND DISPUTE Neville Parnham 52
5 BON ARGENT I S Haggerty 52
6 CONSTANTINOPLE V G Ferrier 52
7 CRIMSON SAKURA R W Matthews 52
8 DEAD EYE DICK B P Graham 52
9 REGAL RAIDER Lindsey Smith 52
10 RESCUER E A Martinovich 52
11 ROYAL MINX Jim Taylor 52
12 SCENIC MIST Neville Parnham 52
13 STOCKIE'S YARN M W Pateman 52
14 THE TIN MAN Mrs B M Dudley 52
15 ZERO ENGAGEMENT R E Roney 52

[umrum]

River Mist only gets 5kg less than Northerly. work that out.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Reports are that Northerly is only a 50-50 chance to start in Saturday's Farnley Stakes.

Wet tracks over here have put his preparation behind schedule.

A start in Cox Plate is looking more unlikely by the day.

[umrum]

On 2004-08-26 09:37, MyHatMyCoat wrote:
Reports are that Northerly is only a 50-50 chance to start in Saturday's Farnley Stakes.

Wet tracks over here have put his preparation behind schedule.

A start in Cox Plate is looking more unlikely by the day.



And we have had plenty of rain here overnight nad this morning.

[La Mer]

On 2004-08-26 10:38, umrum wrote:
[quote]
Wet tracks over here have put his preparation behind schedule.

A start in Cox Plate is looking more unlikely by the day.


Northerly out - not racing on Saturday, could go out for a spell, hopefully for good if Fred wants to do the right thing - remember M&P's illgotten comeback.

[Paddy]

LISTED BELMONT PARK CUP - 2100M (Sat 28th Aug)

Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 KIM LISA M Burnett R Burnett (a) 11 57
2 QUASAROCK B A Lewis S F Mc Gruddy 12 55.5
3 BOLD MIRAGE (NZ) Alan Mathews C K Harvey 8 52.5
4 BRIGALOW W J Miller D R Miller (Snr) 4 52.5
5 CONSPIRATOR Lindsey Smith W A Pike (a) 7 52.5
6 DEMARCHE V G Ferrier P King 3 52.5
7 DOMERO (NZ) J R Bull P J Carbery 1 52.5
8 ENTREPRENEURIAL Michael Miller N L Rudland 6 52.5
9 GRAND TURISMO Lou Luciani D J Staeck 14 52.5
10 IVORY LANE K L Gammon J P Claite 13 52.5
11 LADOS Fred Kersley S L O'Donnell 9 52.5
12 MISS COPYCAT S L Miller J J Brown 2 52.5
13 MOSS MINSTER S L Miller B M Parnham (a) 15 52.5
14 PRISTINE PARTNERS S J Wolfe T K Turner 5 52.5
15 REIGNING FORT P J Miller P D Knuckey 10 52.5

[Paddy]

LISTED FARNLEY STAKES - 1400M (Sat 28th Aug)


Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 RIVER MIST G E Daly P D Knuckey 2 55
2 AUSSIE STRIKE R B Rogers D Luciani (a) 4 52
3 BON ARGENT I S Haggerty P J Carbery 6 52
4 CONSTANTINOPLE V G Ferrier P King 7 52
5 CRIMSON SAKURA R W Matthews J P Claite 1 52
6 REGAL RAIDER Lindsey Smith W A Pike (a) 8 52
7 RESCUER E A Martinovich T K Turner 3 52
8 THE TIN MAN Mrs B M Dudley Ms J Roesler (a) 9 52
9 ZERO ENGAGEMENT R E Roney J S Whiting 5 52

[Paddy]

LISTED FARNLEY STAKES

Prices at: 19:05:30, 26 Aug 2004

CONSTANTINOPLE $3.40
CRIMSON SAKURA $4.40
RIVER MIST $4.60
RESCUER $6.00
REGAL RAIDER $6.50
ZERO ENGAGEMENT $6.50
AUSSIE STRIKE $16.00
THE TIN MAN $31.00
BON ARGENT $41.00

[Paddy]

BELMONT PARK CUP

Prices at: 21:00:00, 26 Aug 2004

KIM LISA $5.50
BOLD MIRAGE $6.50
IVORY LANE $8.00
PRISTINE PARTNERS $8.00
GRAND TURISMO $9.00
MISS COPYCAT $9.00
DOMERO $10.00
CONSPIRATOR $12.00
ENTREPRENEURIAL $12.00
QUASAROCK $13.00
LADOS $13.00
REIGNING FORT $13.00
BRIGALOW $14.00
MOSS MINSTER $18.00
DEMARCHE $61.00

[Geez]

My ratings for the FARNLEY STAKES

Those under double figures.


Crimson Sakura $5.90
Constantinople $7.30
Regal Raider $7.30
Rescuer $7.30
River Mist $8.80
Zero Engagement $9.70

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[Geez]

My ratings for the BELMONT PARK CUP

Those under double figures


Miss Copycat $6.10
Kim Lisa $7.10
Bold Mirage $8.40
Conspirator $8.40
Brigalow $9.10
Demarche $9.80

[Paddy]

LISTED FARNLEY STAKES

Prices at: 19:08:00, 27 Aug 2004

CONSTANTINOPLE $3.50
CRIMSON SAKURA $4.80
RIVER MIST $4.80
RESCUER $5.50
REGAL RAIDER $7.00
ZERO ENGAGEMENT $7.00
AUSSIE STRIKE $17.00
THE TIN MAN $41.00
BON ARGENT $41.00

[Paddy]

CONSTANTINOPLE, CRIMSON SAKURA & RIVER MIST out slightly
* RESCUER in ½ point
REGAL RAIDER & ZERO ENGAGEMENT out ½ point
AUSSIE STRIKE out 1 point
THE TIN MAN out 10 points

[Paddy]

LISTED BELMONT PARK CUP

Prices at: 19:21:00, 27 Aug 2004

KIM LISA $5.50
BOLD MIRAGE $8.00
IVORY LANE $9.00
MISS COPYCAT $9.00
QUASAROCK $10.00
GRAND TURISMO $10.00
PRISTINE PARTNERS $11.00
DOMERO $12.00
CONSPIRATOR $13.00
LADOS $13.00
ENTREPRENEURIAL $14.00
BRIGALOW $16.00
REIGNING FORT $16.00
MOSS MINSTER $31.00
DEMARCHE $41.00

[Paddy]

BOLD MIRAGE out 1½ points
IVORY LANE out 1 point
* QUASAROCK in 3 points
GRAND TURISMO & CONSPIRATOR out 1 point
PRISTINE PARTNERS & REIGNING FORT out 3 points
DOMERO, ENTREPRENEURIAL & BRIGALOW out 2 points
MOSS MINSTER out 13 points
** DEMARCHE in 20 points

[Sandgroper]

Backed Demarche did we Paddy?




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All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

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[Paddy]

Not me Sandgroper. Must have been Geez :roll:

[Sandgroper]

Yeh sure Paddy :smile:

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Sandgroper :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

They ARE racing at Belmont today but track heavy.

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Sandgroper :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

Cup and Farnley clear of scratchings.

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All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

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[Geez]

On 2004-08-27 20:32, Paddy wrote:
Not me Sandgroper. Must have been Geez :roll:


Not me Paddy only had a modest wager :wink:

[MyHatMyCoat]

Ellicorsam (race 4) returns from an unsuccessful stint over east. Likely to be a very warm favourite. Won 3 in a row before going east - average winning margin around 4lens.

[Paddy]

I see Elli's 1st start (close 2nd) was on a slow track MyHatMyCoat, so should do OK on the heavy.

[Paddy]

LISTED FARNLEY STAKES

EW Prices at: 11:59:00, 28 Aug 2004

CONSTANTINOPLE $3.30
CRIMSON SAKURA $4.80
RIVER MIST $5.00
RESCUER $6.00
REGAL RAIDER $7.50
ZERO ENGAGEMENT $7.50
AUSSIE STRIKE $17.00
BON ARGENT $41.00
THE TIN MAN $41.00

[Paddy]

LISTED BELMONT PARK CUP

EW Prices at: 12:02:00, 28 Aug 2004

KIM LISA 11191 $5.50
BOLD MIRAGE 11193 $8.00
QUASAROCK 11192 $9.00
IVORY LANE 11200 $9.00
MISS COPYCAT 11202 $9.00
GRAND TURISMO 11199 $10.00
PRISTINE PARTNERS 11204 $11.00
DOMERO 11197 $13.00
LADOS 11201 $13.00
CONSPIRATOR 11195 $14.00
ENTREPRENEURIAL 11198 $15.00
BRIGALOW 11194 $16.00
REIGNING FORT 11205 $16.00
MOSS MINSTER 11203 $31.00
DEMARCHE 11196 $41.00

[Paddy]

05 HELLENIC-BELMONT
PARK 3YO+ CUP
2100 Metres
5:20pm
2ND LEG EXTRA DOUBLE
1ST LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
15 38.30 10.70
11...............3.80
2...............3.00

QUINELLA (11-15) 245.10
EXACTA (15-11) 429.50
TRIFECTA
(15-11-2) 6,111.90
SPINNER (Odds) 7.70
FIRST 4
(15-11-2-1) 6,898.20
EXTRA DOUBLE (2-15) 110.20
SPECIAL DIV. (2-SCR) 2.20

(15) REIGNING FORT (P.KNUCKEY)
(11) LADOS (S.O'DONNELL)
(2) QUASAROCK (S.MCGRUDDY)

SCR - NIL
Quadrella Sub = 1

[Paddy]

06 FARNLEY 3YO+ STK
1400 Metres
5:55pm

2ND LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
4 2.40 1.30
6...............3.80
1...............1.80

QUINELLA (4-6) 24.50
EXACTA (4-6) 37.70
TRIFECTA
(4-6-1) 155.20
SPINNER (Evens) 3.30
FIRST 4
(4-6-1-9) 829.00

(4) CONSTANTINOPLE (P.KING)
(6) REGAL RAIDER (W.PIKE)
(1) RIVER MIST (P.KNUCKEY)

SCR - NIL
Quadrella Sub = 4

[Paddy]

On 2004-08-28 11:45, Paddy wrote:
I see Elli's 1st start (close 2nd) was on a slow track MyHatMyCoat, so should do OK on the heavy.



Easy 31/4 len win to Ellicorsam :wink:

[Chenille Prince]

Main race at Kalgoorlie today

ALU Glass Cup 1400M


No. Horse Jockey Barrier Weight


1 PLEA BARGAIN D LUCIANI 2 58.5
2 KYOSHI T JACKMAN 8 57.5
3 PAGO R BURNETT 3 56.5
4 LE DOLPHIN MICHAEL RYAN 10 56
5 JASHAR BOY C HARVEY 5 54
6 MY PASS B MATHEWS 7 54
7 AL DIDNAVADAD N A CHAPMAN 16 53
8 SCRATCHED S PARNHAM 18 53
9 CENT DANCING R HANSON 4 53
10 CHASSEUR T TURNER 12 53
11 DANCE TO HEAVEN W PIKE 11 53
12 FORCE ON COURSE MS J VALAS 9 53
13 LANJINSKY C SURESH 14 53
14 MYSTERY MORN MS M PARSONS 6 53
15 SCENIC MIST B PARNHAM 17 53
16 SERVINCENT R KIRKUP 1 53
17 VICTORY LORD (EM1) MS J ROESLER 13 53
18 SCRATCHED N/A 15 53

[Chenille Prince]

ALU Glass Cup

Scenic Mist
Plea Bargain
Le Dolphin
Kyoshi

[Geez]

Scenic Mist - Pago - Cent Dancing - My Pass

[Whist]

Dance to Heaven - Pago - Scenic Mist - Mystery Morn

[Paddy]

Listed BOULDER CUP - 1760M Kalgoorlie Sat 4th Sep


No Horse Trainer Weight
1 BLEVVO D R Harrison 57
2 PRICELESS MATT Fred Kersley 54
3 CHANGING LANES R C Mc Pherson 53
4 AL DIDNAVADAD P J Bermingham 52.5
5 CA CAO Mrs K M Kersley-Dyson 52.5
6 CHASSEUR Dennis Ramsay 52.5
7 COMPETITOR P R Smythe 52.5
8 CONSPIRATOR Lindsey Smith 52.5
9 FIELD COMMANDER Colin Webster 52.5
10 GAMBACE S L Miller 52.5
11 MERCEDARIO (NZ) Neville Parnham 52.5
12 MINT PLAY (NZ) P R Smythe 52.5
13 MOROCCO BOUND N L Newton 52.5
14 MR. GUILTY A M Bazeley 52.5
15 MY THORNBIRD G F Durrant 52.5
16 NOON P J Fernie 52.5
17 SIR BOLLINGER Neville Parnham 52.5
18 STAR OF TELESTO C L Smith 52.5
19 VICTORY LORD P J Fernie 52.5
20 VIOLENT WIND J W Lugg 52.5
21 YOU ARE MY HERO N M Biggs 52.5

[Sandgroper]

At least half a dozen genuine chances at first glance.

Priceless Matt could make it a Coolgardie Cup / Boulder Cup double. Ran a close 2nd last year in this race behind Space Age who started at cricket score odds.

Others who performed well in this race last year include Mr Guilty and Morocco Bound.

Recent arrival from Vic, Sir Bollinger about ready to show some form. Well backed first visit late last year but failed dismally in the group3 RJ Peters Stakes.

Blevvo back in form, step up in distance in his favour.

Beaten Coolgardie Cup (1600m) fav Ca Cao will also appreciate the extra distance. Likewise My Thornbird and Field Commander who were also well fancied in the same race.

And there are a few others in with a good chance.

Hopefully some good value to be found.

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All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

A couple of horses who finished behind Mr. Tambourineman in the Darwin Cup recently, have returned home and race in the Balaklava Cup this Wed. Capo Del Opo and Pray In Vain.

On their Darwin efforts Capo Del Opo looks to have the edge but Pray In Vain has started twice at Balaklava for a win and place. Both look nicely weighted.

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All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

Looks like the barrier draw has already been completed for the Boulder Cup. Max 16 starters, 4 emergencies and 1 reserve.

1 Blevvo 9 57 D R Harrison
2 Priceless Matt 3 54 F R Kersley
3 Changing Lanes 4 53 R C Mc Pherson
4 Al Didnavadad 10 52.5 P J Bermingham
5 Ca Cao 6 52.5 K M Kersley-Dyson
6 Chasseur 17 52.5 D H Ramsay
7 Competitor 5 52.5 P R Smythe
8 Conspirator 13 52.5 L Smith
9 Field Commander 12 52.5 C H Webster
10 Mercedario(NZ) 7 52.5 N D Parnham
11 Mint Play(NZ) 16 52.5 P R Smythe
12 Morocco Bound 18 52.5 N L Newton
13 Mr. Guilty 19 52.5 A M Bazeley
14 My Thornbird 14 52.5 G F Durrant
15 Noon 15 52.5 P J Fernie
16 Star Of Telesto 2 52.5 C L Smith
17 Violent Wind E1 20 52.5 J W Lugg
18 You Are My Hero E2 1 52.5 N M Biggs
19 Sir Bollinger E3 11 52.5 N D Parnham
20 Gambace E4 8 52.5 S L Miller
21 Victory Lord R1 0 52.5 P J Fernie




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All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

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[Geez]

Should be a great race Sandgroper.

I'll be including Mercedario in my multiples.

Good draw. Should now be race fit. And expect nice price.

[partypooper]

Sandgroper, doesn't take me that long to see where "Value" is,

But it's Blevvo that sticks!!

[Paddy]

Last time Blevvo won in a preparation he went on to win 6 of 7 next starts. Beat Constantinople last start that horse winning since. Does look well in partypooper.

Also like Priceless Matt. Fred has got him back to his best at the right time.

My Thornbird looks well in on the limit & although the form guide says 10 of 16 last start only beaten 3.25lens after getting back too far early on.


Nothing wrong with Changing Lanes form. Only beaten a neck by Priceless Matt last start in the Coolgardie Cup & meets PM 1/2 kg better in this.

[Paddy]

I guess the PPM special would have to be in order (if any get a start) - Gambace, You Are My Hero & Violent Wind. Otherwise Star Of Telesto. All would have some chance.

[Sandgroper]

Reported Northerly still in work, Kersley planning to start him in welter over here 11th Sep. Then going east, if all is well.

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Sandgroper :smile:

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[jaffa]

Paddy,

Thnks very much for your reply in regard to Wa barrier trials.

if there is anything that I can do for you in regard to Qld races please let me know.

Cheers mate

Jaffa

[Paddy]

That's cool jaffa, will keep in mind :smile:

[Chenille Prince]

Mogul, runner-up in the grp3 R J Peters Stakes is set to return to racing. Nominated for the O'Grady Lefroy this Sat over 1000M. Trial winner yesterday at Belmont, given an easy time.

[Paddy]

On 2004-09-01 01:05, Chenille Prince wrote:
Mogul, runner-up in the grp3 R J Peters Stakes is set to return to racing. Nominated for the O'Grady Lefroy this Sat over 1000M. Trial winner yesterday at Belmont, given an easy time.


Probably the best race of the meet CP!


No Horse Trainer Weight
1 RIVER MIST G E Daly 59
2 MOGUL Lindsey Smith 56.5
3 MR. CALLAHAN Michael Campbell 55.5
4 DOUBLE JEWEL G E Daly 52.5
5 MOON TALK V A Brockman 52.5
6 SHANE'S BOY Michael Pateman 52.5
7 BIG DAM W J Bradshaw 52
8 HERO OF THE DAWN C A Williamson 52
9 JUNGLE TOY B A Mc Clune 52
10 MATILDA BAY K J Boase 52
11 METAL DUMP S W Barrass 52
12 SHAKE MY HAND J W Price 52
13 UNCLE BRIAN R C Mc Pherson 52

[demister jay]

On 2004-08-30 23:01, Sandgroper wrote:
A couple of horses who finished behind Mr. Tambourineman in the Darwin Cup recently, have returned home and race in the Balaklava Cup this Wed. Capo Del Opo and Pray In Vain.

On their Darwin efforts Capo Del Opo looks to have the edge but Pray In Vain has started twice at Balaklava for a win and place. Both look nicely weighted.
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Almost Sandgroper :smile:

[Sandgroper]

Yes almost demister jay. Just a lip in it. Fought on extra well.

$10 place and managed the quinella, so wasn't all gloom and doom.

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[demister jay]

The O'Grady Lefroy

Double Jewel will be too speedy for this lot.

Nice and fresh Moon Talk should run on well for 2nd.

Shake My Hand and Uncle Brian should fight out 3rd and 4th.

[demister jay]

On 2004-09-01 01:05, Chenille Prince wrote:
Mogul, runner-up in the grp3 R J Peters Stakes is set to return to racing. Nominated for the O'Grady Lefroy this Sat over 1000M. Trial winner yesterday at Belmont, given an easy time.




Don't think he'll run a place Chenille Prince.

[Sandgroper]

Sad news! Ex WA star Shot Of Thunder had to be put down at Glenlogan Park stud (Qld) after a freak accident yesterday, the stallion fracturing a femur.




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[Paddy]

Not another! Load & Lockett recently & now Shot Of Thunder. Bugger!!

[Paddy]

The O'GRADY LEFROY has fallen away a bit. Just the 8 starters.
Good news demister jay, all your selections are still in the field.


Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 MOGUL Lindsey Smith P King 4 56.5
2 MR. CALLAHAN Michael Campbell S F Mc Gruddy 3 55.5
3 DOUBLE JEWEL G E Daly J J Brown 5 52.5
4 MOON TALK V A Brockman T Ikenushi (a1.5) 1 52.5
5 MATILDA BAY K J Boase Ms M Parsons (a3) 7 52
6 METAL DUMP S W Barrass J S Whiting 8 52
7 SHAKE MY HAND J W Price C L Staples 6 52
8 UNCLE BRIAN R C Mc Pherson W A Pike (a0) 2 52

[Chenille Prince]

On 2004-09-01 22:11, demister jay wrote:

On 2004-09-01 01:05, Chenille Prince wrote:
Mogul, runner-up in the grp3 R J Peters Stakes is set to return to racing. Nominated for the O'Grady Lefroy this Sat over 1000M. Trial winner yesterday at Belmont, given an easy time.


Don't think he'll run a place Chenille Prince.




Small field will suit. Is forward enough to run a good 1000M. Proof in the pudding :wink:

[Chenille Prince]

On 2004-09-02 17:21, Sandgroper wrote:
Sad news! Ex WA star Shot Of Thunder had to be put down at Glenlogan Park stud (Qld) after a freak accident yesterday, the stallion fracturing a femur.


Sad news indeed.

Did he manage to father any offspring in his short career at stud?

[Chenille Prince]

Been great weather over here during the week. No more rain and we could have a good track on Sat.

[demister jay]

yep proof in the pudding Chenille Prince :smile:

bad luck Shot of Thunder

[Sandgroper]

Kal Boulder Cup (1760M) final acceptances


1 Blevvo 9 57 Stephen Miller D R Harrison
2 Priceless Matt 3 54 Shaun O'Donnell F R Kersley
3 Changing Lanes 4 53 Danny Miller R C Mc Pherson
4 Al Didnavadad 10 52.5 Jessica Valas P J Bermingham
5 Ca Cao 6 52.5 Peter Hall K M Kersley-Dyson
6 Chasseur 17 52.5 Peter Knuckey D H Ramsay
7 Competitor 5 52.5 Troy Jackman P R Smythe
8 Conspirator 13 52.5 Lucas Camilleri L Smith
9 Field Commander 12 52.5 Clint Harvey C H Webster
10 Mercedario(NZ) 7 52.5 Steven Parnham N D Parnham
11 Mint Play(NZ) 16 52.5 C. Suresh P R Smythe
12 Morocco Bound 18 52.5 Russell Hanson N L Newton
13 Mr. Guilty 19 52.5 Michael Ryan A M Bazeley
14 My Thornbird 14 52.5 Neil Chapman G F Durrant
15 Noon 15 52.5 Brett Mathews P J Fernie
16 Star Of Telesto 2 52.5 Daniel Staeck C L Smith
17 E1 Violent Wind 20 52.5 Gerahd De Bari J W Lugg
18 E2 You Are My Hero 1 52.5 N M Biggs
19 E3 Sir Bollinger 11 52.5 N D Parnham
20 E4 Gambace 8 52.5 S L Miller




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[Sandgroper]

On 2004-09-02 20:57, Chenille Prince wrote:
Been great weather over here during the week. No more rain and we could have a good track on Sat.



I hope so CP. I've been hanging out for a fix for a few weeks now :lol:

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[MyHatMyCoat]

Know how you feel Sandgroper - hope the track is OK, but there is some rain predicted for the weekend.

Like you (from what you have posted) I seldom invest when tracks are no good and subsequently potential profit is also reduced. Been betting mainly on eastern states races of late, doing OK but do much better on the locals.

[Sandgroper]

Don't forget Free At Last in the Craiglee

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[demister jay]

I'll be including in my bets Sandgroper.


Boulder Cup

Selections in order:

Chapman had My Thornbird way too far back last start. Ridden a bit closer and should get the bickies.

Priceless Matt has come to hand very quickly. Winning form's good form, hard to beat.


Again winning form's good form for Blevvo. Might be getting back to his best.


Lightly raced Ca Cao will be suited by the extra distance.

[Geez]

On 2004-09-01 22:08, demister jay wrote:
The O'Grady Lefroy

Double Jewel will be too speedy for this lot.

Nice and fresh Moon Talk should run on well for 2nd.

Shake My Hand and Uncle Brian should fight out 3rd and 4th.





I can see Matilda Bay taking on Double Jewel for the lead. With small field might suit Mr Callahan.

[Sandgroper]

All starting in the O'GRADY LEFROY


Track FAST :grin:
But rain predicted :roll:
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[MyHatMyCoat]

According to this mornings West Australian, Northerly to start in the welter next Sat here, before heading east.

[Geez]

Track fast for Kal.
Boulder Cup scratchings (11) Mint Play, (18) You Are My Hero, (19) Sir Bollinger and (20) Gambace.

My selections

Field Commander - Mercedario - Priceless Matt - Mr Guilty

[Paddy]

05 O'GRADY LEFROY 3YO+
STK
1000 Metres
5:30pm

1ST LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
6 4.70 1.80
8...............1.40
7...............4.20

QUINELLA (6-8) 7.30
EXACTA (6-8) 14.40
TRIFECTA
(6-8-7) 132.80
SPINNER (Evens) 2.30

(6) METAL DUMP (J.WHITING)
(8) UNCLE BRIAN (W.PIKE)
(7) SHAKE MY HAND (C.STAPLES)

SCR - NIL
Quadrella Sub = 8

[Paddy]

BOULDER CUP result

1st 14 MY THORNBIRD N A CHAPMAN 15.90 4.30
2nd 1 BLEVVO STEPHEN MILLER 2.40
3rd 10 MERCEDARIO S PARNHAM 3.30
4th 12 MOROCCO BOUND R HANSON


Quinella
1-14 59.80
Exacta
14-1 104.20
Trifecta
14-1-10 1230.90
Quartet
14-1-10-12 Carryover

[Paddy]

On 2004-09-03 22:53, demister jay wrote:
I'll be including in my bets Sandgroper.


Boulder Cup

Selections in order:

Chapman had My Thornbird way too far back last start. Ridden a bit closer and should get the bickies.

Priceless Matt has come to hand very quickly. Winning form's good form, hard to beat.


Again winning form's good form for Blevvo. Might be getting back to his best.


Lightly raced Ca Cao will be suited by the extra distance.





Winner on top & the quinella.

Great effort demister jay!

[Geez]

Yeh good work demister jay.
Mercedario did manage a place.

[demister jay]

Cheers Paddy and Geez. Didn't think My Thornbird would pay that well. Got the tri (yes included Mercedario Geez, thanks for the input) missed the quartet (a carryover).
Just checked Sandgroper's overview and he did give it a mention - rats!

Had right idea re O'Grady Lefroy Geez, did make me stop and rethink, thanks.

[demister jay]

On 2004-08-31 08:30, Paddy wrote:
Last time Blevvo won in a preparation he went on to win 6 of 7 next starts. Beat Constantinople last start that horse winning since. Does look well in partypooper.

Also like Priceless Matt. Fred has got him back to his best at the right time.

My Thornbird looks well in on the limit & although the form guide says 10 of 16 last start only beaten 3.25lens after getting back too far early on.


Nothing wrong with Changing Lanes form. Only beaten a neck by Priceless Matt last start in the Coolgardie Cup & meets PM 1/2 kg better in this.




You're a modest bugger Paddy :smile: Didn't do too bad yourself!

[demister jay]

Proof in the pudding Chenille Prince. Not that I managed the winner in a field of 8 :lol:
Cheers mate!

[partypooper]

Being a big softy really, I like to give credit where it's due, so to demister jay, and Paddy, VERY WELL DONE! wish I'd taken the hints!!

[Paddy]

On 2004-09-03 23:36, Geez wrote:
I can see Matilda Bay taking on Double Jewel for the lead. With small field might suit Mr Callahan.



Not far off the mark Geez. Last on turn, ran on well for 4th beaten 1.5lens at 20/1.

Matilda Bay leading Double Jewel, both finishing unplaced.

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[Sandgroper]

Yesterdays Boulder Cup winner - My Thornbird, has been penalised 1.5kg for the Kalgoorlie Cup, will now carry 54kgs.

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[Geez]

Not far off the mark Paddy. Stood to make a nice profit if it ran a place (bloody 4th nothing worse) :smile:

[Chenille Prince]

On 2004-08-31 15:17, Sandgroper wrote:
Reported Northerly still in work, Kersley planning to start him in welter over here 11th Sep. Then going east, if all is well.


WATC handicapper has said that Northerly could expect no less than 64kg for next Saturday's welter.

The last horse to carry that sort of weight (and win) was Detonator who carried 65kg to victory in a Belmont welter way back in 1978.

Subsequent to his trial run Northerly has had a hard hit at Belmont. Reported Fred pleased with the gallop.

[Sandgroper]

Filed for listed Hannan's Handicap (1400M) - Kalgoorlie this Thursday 9th.


No. Horse Barrier Weight Trainer

1 Finito 3 57 P H Humann
2 Eastern Standard 11 56 C H Webster
3 River Mist 10 55 G E Daly
4 Plea Bargain 5 54.5 G F Durrant
5 Changing Lanes 2 53 R C Mc Pherson
6 Ellicorsam 14 53 S L Miller
7 Call Me Henry 1 52.5 N D Parnham
8 Competitor 6 52.5 P R Smythe
9 Dead Eye Dick 7 52.5 B P Graham
10 Jashar Boy 9 52.5 C L Smith
11 Le Dolphin 8 52.5 J W Lugg
12 Regal Raider 13 52.5 L Smith
13 Scenic Mist 4 52.5 N D Parnham
14 Stir Pak 12 52.5 J G Parker


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[MyHatMyCoat]

Should be a great race Sandgroper with speed to burn with Eastern Standard and Ellicorsam in the race and both drawn wide.

[Sandgroper]

Sure should be MyHatMyCoat.

To further wet our appetite he's the field for the listed Kalgoorlie Cup (2300M) on Saturday. No barrier draw yet.

No Horse Weight Trainer

1 Blevvo 57 D R Harrison
2 My Thornbird 54.5 G F Durrant
3 Priceless Matt 54 F R Kersley
4 Quasarock 54 B A Lewis
5 Bold Mirage(NZ) 53 A D Mathews
6 Al Didnavadad 52.5 P J Bermingham
7 Ca Cao 52.5 K M Kersley-Dyson
8 Chasseur 52.5 D H Ramsay
9 Competitor 52.5 P R Smythe
10 Conspirator 52.5 L Smith
11 Mercedario(NZ) 52.5 N D Parnham
12 Morocco Bound 52.5 N L Newton
13 Noon 52.5 P J Fernie
14 Pristine Partners 52.5 S J Wolfe
15 Reigning Fort 52.5 P J Miller
16 Violent Wind 52.5 J W Lugg
17 Gambace E 1 52.5 S L Miller
18 Victory Lord E 2 52.5 P J Fernie
19 Moss Minster E 3 52.5 S L Miller




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Sandgroper :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

Current WA TAB fixed odds for the Hannan's Handicap.

ELLICORSAM $2.60
DEAD EYE DICK $8.00
FINITO $9.00
REGAL RAIDER $9.00
EASTERN STANDARD $11.00
PLEA BARGAIN $11.00
STIR PAK $12.00
LE DOLPHIN $14.00
RIVER MIST $17.00
CHANGING LANES $17.00
CALL ME HENRY $21.00
SCENIC MIST $26.00
COMPETITOR $31.00
JASHAR BOY $41.00


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

WA TAB fixed odds already betting on the Kalgoorlie Cup.

BLEVVO $4.20
MY THORNBIRD $4.80
REIGNING FORT $7.50
BOLD MIRAGE $8.50
QUASAROCK $10.00
PRICELESS MATT $12.00
MERCEDARIO $14.00
MOROCCO BOUND $14.00
COMPETITOR $16.00
GAMBACE (1E) $16.00
CA CAO $17.00
CONSPIRATOR $21.00
PRISTINE PARTNERS $26.00
VIOLENT WIND $26.00
AL DIDNAVADAD $31.00
CHASSEUR $31.00
NOON $41.00
VICTORY LORD (2E) $41.00
MOSS MINSTER (3E) $41.00


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

Northerly to lob 64.5kg 1600M Welter this Saturday at Belmont.


Tab no. Horse Barrier Weight Trainer
1 Northerly 2 64.5 F R Kersley
2 True Steel 19 58 M M Payne
3 Sabre Chief 15 55 C H Webster
4 Beyond Dispute 10 54 N D Parnham
5 Kennett 18 54 A D Mathews
6 Regal Raider 14 53 L Smith
7 Shoeless 12 53 N E Pascoe
8 Grand Turismo 11 52.5 L P Luciani
9 Royal Minx 3 52.5 J P Taylor
10 Adventurer 9 52 A D Mathews
11 Aussie Strike 5 52 R B Rogers
12 Chasseur 17 52 D H Ramsay
13 Entrepreneurial 6 52 M H Miller
14 Halopak 1 52 P H Jordan
15 Paris Bank 7 52 B R Larsson
16 Young Bill 16 52 H S Mc Laren
17 E1 So Long Syd 8 52 S R Plumb
18 E2 Konjo 20 52 K A Gronow
19 E3 Zero Engagement 4 52 R E Roney
20 E4 Shotgun Kid 13 52 B M Dudley


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[Chenille Prince]

Not done the form yet but has to be huge ask for Northerly to win, which I wouldn't think is Fred's intention. Might be good value race though, with no doubt sentimental money going onto the champ.

[umrum]

Yeah it really depends if he is going around to win or just for the run. either way if he is 9/2 I wont be able to help myself having a little nibble.

[Sandgroper]

Thursday's HANNAN'S HANDICAP with jockeys

1 FINITO P H Humann D J Staeck 3 57
2 EASTERN STANDARD Colin Webster T K Turner 11 56
3 RIVER MIST G E Daly P King 10 55
4 PLEA BARGAIN G F Durrant J F Miller 5 54.5
5 CHANGING LANES R C Mc Pherson N A Chapman 2 53
6 ELLICORSAM S L Miller S J Miller 14 53
7 CALL ME HENRY Neville Parnham S D Parnham (a) 1 52.5
8 COMPETITOR P R Smythe 6 52.5
9 DEAD EYE DICK B P Graham P D Knuckey 7 52.5
10 JASHAR BOY C L Smith T K Jackman 9 52.5
11 LE DOLPHIN J W Lugg A W Robinson 8 52.5
12 REGAL RAIDER Lindsey Smith L Camilleri 13 52.5
13 SCENIC MIST Neville Parnham P J Carbery 4 52.5
14 STIR PAK J G Parker W A Pike (a) 12 52.5


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[demister jay]

Big chance Northerly - even 3/4 fit and lumping 12.5kgs over the limit. Doesn't put up a great show, wouldn't bother going east at this point in time.

[Sandgroper]

Kalgoorlie Cup with barriers

No Horse Barrier Weight Trainer

1 Blevvo 10 57 D R Harrison
2 My Thornbird 17 54.5 G F Durrant
3 Priceless Matt 8 54 F R Kersley
4 Quasarock 15 54 B A Lewis
5 Bold Mirage(NZ) 11 53 A D Mathews
6 Al Didnavadad 19 52.5 P J Bermingham
7 Ca Cao 13 52.5 K M Kersley-Dyson
8 Chasseur 3 52.5 D H Ramsay
9 Competitor 2 52.5 P R Smythe
10 Conspirator 16 52.5 L Smith
11 Mercedario(NZ) 5 52.5 N D Parnham
12 Morocco Bound 18 52.5 N L Newton
13 Noon 14 52.5 P J Fernie
14 Pristine Partners 1 52.5 S J Wolfe
15 Reigning Fort 4 52.5 P J Miller
16 Violent Wind 12 52.5 J W Lugg
17 Gambace E1 7 52.5 S L Miller
18 Victory Lord E2 6 52.5 P J Fernie
19 Moss Minster E3 9 52.5 S L Miller



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Sandgroper :smile:

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[Chenille Prince]

On 2004-09-07 23:11, demister jay wrote:
Big chance Northerly - even 3/4 fit and lumping 12.5kgs over the limit. Doesn't put up a great show, wouldn't bother going east at this point in time.



Agree with umrum would back only if EW odds or better - with some savers!

[umrum]

Was just thinking the hannans may have been a good race for Northerly to kick off in. Maybe the weight on a hard track would be too much.

[MyHatMyCoat]

The trip to and from Kal probably not in best interest, especially if immediately followed by a trip over east.

[shaun1993]

Great to see a WA thread, keep up the good work guys. Just moved over from Sydney a couple of months ago. Love a punt, just a hobby, have a lot of fun. Over time most likely losing but that’s entertainment! So intend to tune-in and provide my input here and there (if you don’t mind). From what I seen on this thread and the whopper over the page, I’m sure I’ll get plenty of food for thought. Cheers.

[Sovsy]

On 2004-09-07 23:11, demister jay wrote:
Big chance Northerly - even 3/4 fit and lumping 12.5kgs over the limit. Doesn't put up a great show, wouldn't bother going east at this point in time.



Northerly has a problem with winning races in WA these days, especially when good horses are getting a smeg load less weight, expect a solid run midfield somewhere, best finish probably 5th or 6th

But thats not to say this little black duck wont be willing him past the post in pole position of course :wink:

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[Geez]

Great news – Fred Kersley has just been inducted into the Australian Harness Racing Hall of Fame. Congrats Fred!

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[Paddy]

Good luck to Fred (and his family), certainly has put a lot into harness racing over many years.

Apparently they got him over to Melbourne on the pretence someone else was being inducted & he was just a guest for the ‘pretend’ induction.

[watsonnek]

On 2004-09-07 23:11, demister jay wrote:
Big chance Northerly - even 3/4 fit and lumping 12.5kgs over the limit. Doesn't put up a great show, wouldn't bother going east at this point in time.



Northerly's not noted for his first up performances. Why would they risk a hard run with much bigger fish around the corner?

[Geez]

(8) Competitor only scratching from the Hannans.

My selctions:

Ellicorsam - Dead Eye Dick - Regal Raider - Finito

[shaun1993]

Hannans.

(7) Call Me Henry
(6) Ellicorsam
(5) Changing Lanes
(3) River Mist

[Geez]

A great win by elli!

[Chenille Prince]

Yes Geez, a great win.
Just watched the race on Fox, was a bit sceptical before the race but now I'm a convert - huge win against a good field. Another trip east might be on the cards.

[shaun1993]

Cup.

(2) My Thornbird
(15) Reigning Fort
(1) Blevvo
(7) Ca Cao

[partypooper]

Cup.
Commonsense = Blevvo
Gut = Ca Cao

PPM (Special) = Morocco Bound!

[Sandgroper]

Cup market

BLEVVO $4.60
MY THORNBIRD $5.50
REIGNING FORT $7.50
QUASAROCK $9.00
BOLD MIRAGE $9.00
CA CAO $11.00
MERCEDARIO $14.00
PRICELESS MATT $15.00
COMPETITOR $18.00
PRISTINE PARTNERS $18.00
VIOLENT WIND $18.00
GAMBACE (1E) $18.00
MOROCCO BOUND $21.00
CHASSEUR $41.00
VICTORY LORD (2E) $41.00
MOSS MINSTER (3E) $51.00
NOON $71.00
AL DIDNAVADAD SCR
CONSPIRATOR SCR


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[Geez]

Final field Budget Rent A Car Trophy

1 Northerly 2 64.5 Pat Carbery F R Kersley
2 Sabre Chief 10 55 Craig Staples C H Webster
3 Beyond Dispute 7 54 Brad Parnham N D Parnham
4 Kennett 12 54 Jason Whiting A D Mathews
5 Shoeless 8 53 Paul King N E Pascoe
6 Royal Minx 3 52.5 Jason Brown J P Taylor
7 Aussie Strike 4 52 Troy Turner R B Rogers
8 Halopak 1 52 Jessica Roesler P H Jordan
9 Paris Bank 5 52 Peter Farrell B R Larsson
10 Shotgun Kid 9 52 William Pike B M Dudley
11 So Long Syd 6 52 Dion Luciani S R Plumb
12 Young Bill 11 52 Damian Miller H S Mc Laren

[Geez]

Budget Rent A Car Trophy selections:

Beyond Dispute - Royal Minx - Northerly - So Long Syd

[Geez]

Cup selections:

Reigning Fort - Priceless Matt - My Thornbird - Mercedario

[Ozgunner]

Gunner's Goers

Belmont 11/9

R1 4-2-3-5
R2 8-4-1-7
R3 1-3-2-11
R4 3-9-8-6
R5 6-1-3-2
R6 2-7-3-6
R7 3-2-8-4
R8 4-9-8-10

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[Ozgunner]

Kal Cup

1-2-15-5

[shaun1993]

Reported in the press this morning that if Northerly pulls up OK after todays race, will start in the Underwood (sep 19) and then likely the Yalumba (oct 9). Would then assume start in the Cox (oct 23).

[Geez]

Track fast for the cup.
Gambace and Victory Lord get a start - Al Didnavadad, Consprirator and Moss Minster are all out.

My Thornbird to carry 54kg and not 54.5kg as listed in some form guides.

[Ozgooner]

Does anybody have any good tips for Belmont today, it’s a lovely day here in Perth and thought I go and see this horse Northerly run.

Thanks

[Paddy]

A great return to racing by the fighting tiger!! Let's see how he goes next 48 hours. Fingers crossed.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Great to be part of a little bit of history yesterday Paddy along with around double the normal crowd. As you would imagine the champ looked like he would need the run but performed well above what I expected. He really loves racing!

[demister jay]

On 2004-09-07 23:11, demister jay wrote:
Big chance Northerly - even 3/4 fit and lumping 12.5kgs over the limit. Doesn't put up a great show, wouldn't bother going east at this point in time.



3/4 fit and almost! Great atmosphere yesterday. How about the thunderous applause when he returned to scale....like he'd won a big race, instead of running 4th.

[shaun1993]

On 2004-09-11 10:32, shaun1993 wrote:
Reported in the press this morning that if Northerly pulls up OK after todays race, will start in the Underwood (sep 19) and then likely the Yalumba (oct 9). Would then assume start in the Cox (oct 23).



Confirmed Northerly booked to fly out of Perth tomorrow night, arriving in Melbourne Tues morning for the Underwood.

[watsonnek]

On 2004-09-12 17:35, shaun1993 wrote:

On 2004-09-11 10:32, shaun1993 wrote:
Reported in the press this morning that if Northerly pulls up OK after todays race, will start in the Underwood (sep 19) and then likely the Yalumba (oct 9). Would then assume start in the Cox (oct 23).



Confirmed Northerly booked to fly out of Perth tomorrow night, arriving in Melbourne Tues morning for the Underwood.




I'm not all that convinced that Northerly will race anywhere near his best (if that's possible, he is getting on) in next 2 or 3 starts. Big risk IMO.

[maverick1993]

i think its great to see Northerly racing..
He's going to be backed by the public even if he rolls out there in a wheelchair so they'll be value in other runners in the race..and if he wins it'll be the first time ever i won't be all that upset about losing my money :smile:
This is Australia's very own Sea Biscuit..pity we dont have a broken down jockey to ride him..Give Bernie the ride ! now that would be a fairytale..

[Sandgroper]

For what it is worth I've rated Northerly's run on Saturday 2.75 lengths below his best ever rating over 1600m in Perth.

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[MyHatMyCoat]

Similar here Sandgroper.

[Ozgooner]

WOW. I'm used to traveling around Europe following my soccer team, but I had know idea people would turn out to see a horse in the way I saw Saturday at Belmont, Their was even "Go Northerly" T-shirts and caps for sell. I must admit I did get caught up in all the cheering on for Northerly, even if I did back Royal minx. I would not have been upset if Northerly had won.

What a great day.

[Geez]

Isn’t hindsight a wonderful thing! In an effort to improve my strike rate I’ve just started analysing any ‘good field’ race result where I’ve been way off the mark with my predictions. I am hoping this will broaden my understanding of what to watch out for, when doing pre-race form.

For example, didn’t even look at Violent Wind in the Cup but looking back over the form now, did have a good EW show. In between country stints back in March, had 4 starts at Ascot over middle distance, beaten (in order of starts) 1.25L, HD, 1.75L and 1.25L

Then if you look at last 2 starts prior to the Cup, ran last of 16 (1600m) beaten 5.75L but “raced wide from the 700m” then ran 6th in the Boulder Cup (1760m) beaten 3.5L but again “raced wide from 800m crowded and bumped concluding stages.”


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[Sandgroper]

Do similar when a horse performs well above expected rating either winning or finishing close to winner. Keep a bit of a scenario snapshot in case there is some pattern I'm not accounting for. Also observe very closely next couple of starts. Doesn't happen a lot, and where there doesn't appear to be any valid reason for the sharp improvement, around 80% of the candidates never reach that level again, which does make you wonder a bit.


Anyway, Pat Carbery to ride the champ on Sunday, Greg Childs booked for the Cox.

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[MyHatMyCoat]

Would be great to see Pat also get the ride on the champ in Yalumba if he starts in that race.

[umrum]

can't believe they put carvery on. what about a rawiller boy.

[topsy99]

if they are going to run northerly in a wheelchair perhaps he would be better placed in the metropolitan.

(just a joke)

[Sandgroper]

Lightly raced 4YO Siesta Bay was a surprise travelling companion with Northerly. Little bit disappointing last preparation, thought he won with a bit up the sleeve on Saturday - I've rated the run just 1.5 lengths below his very best performance, so does looks promising for a good campaign this time around.

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[Paddy]

Cheers Perth Placegetter. Sounds like one to watch out for when it debuts over here :wink:

[Geez]

Siesta Bay hasn’t gone well first-up before Saturday’s run. Was a bit hesitant to back him myself but there was good money for him, so I followed suit. Judging by the run and your rating Sandgroper, he is obviously more forward than previous preparations. Let’s hope a decent price on his eastern states debut cause if he does well, we’ll probably not get those odds again.

[Sandgroper]

Given Siesta Bay is trained by Fred doubt we'll get any fancy price, but you never know.


Here's the field for the Carnarvon Cup on Sat over 2000m, if anyone is interested.

1 Mirror Moon 12 OPN 58.5 P M Evans
2 No Anchor 9 CL6 56.5 G G Patten
3 Co Striker 3 CL6 56 B M Carpenter
4 Maroona (B) 10 CL6 56 P J Daly
5 Changing The Guard (B) 8 OPN 55.5 K R Mahoney
6 Optimizer (B) 4 CL6 55.5 L W Healey
7 Party Boy (B) 6 OPN 55.5 P J Daly
8 Thunder And Halo 7 OPN 55.5 G A Rodier
9 Balidor(NZ) (B) 1 CL4 55 K R Mahoney
10 Initial Arrest 5 CL6 55 P J Daly
11 Irish Dance (B) 11 CL4 55 J Scott
12 Shaw River 2 CL4 55 G A Rodier
13 Chipper's Leap (B) E 1 13 CL1 55 K R Mahoney


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[Chenille Prince]

Didn't take Paul Harvey long to get back in the swing of things following his 3 months suspension.

2 winners and a close 2nd from 4 rides!

[Chenille Prince]

Carnarvon Cup thoughts.

Party Boy could easily lead them all the way. 5 starts from a spell all up north, should be ready to show best.


The consistent Optimizer is lightly raced and looks well in at the weights. If can handle the step up in distance would be a strong show.


Co Striker has some reasonable recent city form and won the Newman Cup easily last start with dashing dan aboard. Good chance.


Mirror Moon was subject of a stewards inquiry last start after performing poorly at Carnarvon. Before that won the Broome Cup and then ran 2nd in the Onslow Cup. Can't leave out.

[Geez]

Remember backing Party Boy at Ascot back in April. Got 50/1 EW. Kicked clear rounding the turn, the old heart went a pumping :lol:

Still a place chance about 100 metres out but walked the last bit. He can tire quickly!!

[Sandgroper]

Carnarvon Cup with jockeys

1 Mirror Moon 12 OPN 58.5 Jeremy Hustwitt P M Evans
2 No Anchor 9 CL6 56.5 Dominic Tourneur G G Patten
3 Co Striker 3 CL6 56 Peter Hall B M Carpenter
4 Maroona (B) 10 CL6 56 David Randall P J Daly
5 Changing The Guard (B) 8 OPN 55.5 Roy Mc Kay K R Mahoney
6 Optimizer (B) 4 CL6 55.5 Jim Lemon L W Healey
7 Party Boy (B) 6 OPN 55.5 Neil Chapman P J Daly
8 Thunder And Halo 7 OPN 55.5 Jessica Hill G A Rodier
9 Balidor(NZ) (B) 1 CL4 55 Corey Farrell K R Mahoney
10 Initial Arrest 5 CL6 55 Tamara Zanker P J Daly
11 Irish Dance (B) 11 CL4 55 Antoinette Armes J Scott
12 Shaw River 2 CL4 55 Shane Cull G A Rodier


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[MyHatMyCoat]

IMO Celtus didn’t handle the Sydney way of going in the Newcastle Cup today. Hung like the proverbial. Gear change needed if they are going to persevere. Otherwise we might just get a nice price next time he goes around the Perth way of going.

[FremantleDoctor]

Interesting thread. Good work guys.

Like (8) Thunder And Halo EW in the Carnarvon Cup. 22 starts 8 wins - great strike. Nice weight. Slight doubt distance (untried). Good luck with the punt!

[Geez]

Had my eye on that one myself FremantleDoctor :wink:

By the way, welcome to the WA thread :smile:

[demister jay]

CARNARVON CUP - Mirror Moon EW

[FremantleDoctor]

Carnarvon Cup result

Horse Weight Jockey Pos Len from winner

No Anchor 56.5 Dominic Tourneur 1
Optimizer 55.5 Jim Lemon 2 LNK
Thunder And Halo 55.5 Jessica Hill 3 3 1/4 L
Shaw River 55 Shane Cull 4 3 1/2 L
Mirror Moon 58.5 Jeremy Hustwitt 4 3/4 L
Party Boy (B) 55.5 Neil Chapman 6 4 3/4 L
Co Striker 56 Peter Hall 7 7 1/2 L
Maroona (B) 56 David Randall 8 8 L
Initial Arrest 55 Tamara Zanker 9 8 1/2 L
Changing The Guard 55.5 Roy Mc Kay 10 12 1/2 L
Irish Dance 55 Antoinette Armes 11 16 1/4 L
Balidor(NZ) 55 Corey Farrell 12 22 1/4 L


Missed the winner but still made a small profit :smile:

[demister jay]

Did better than I FremantleDoctor

[MyHatMyCoat]

On 2004-09-13 13:41, Sandgroper wrote:
For what it is worth I've rated Northerly's run on Saturday 2.75 lengths below his best ever rating over 1600m in Perth.


As expected Northerly raced like he needed the run yesterday. Likely next start Turnbull Stakeson 2 October. Is possible could be very near his best by Cox time.

[goldmember]

I read,think it was the west australian,on the w.a tab site in an article that Fred Kearsley said that Northerly definately would need the run on sunday and that he should be spot on for yallumba 3 weeks later and the cox plate 2 weks after that. Has anything changed since the run yesterday,i thought his run was okay and he only started to weaken the last little bit and will strip pretty fit next run,couldnt believe people would want to back him yesterday though,he had next to no chance of running a place.

[anchor]

What do others think about Northerly making the Melbourne Cup his target. Fred would have more time to get him right, and it's the main race he hasn't won yet. I guess the Yalumba will tell all, they'll have to get him rolling more forward or even lead.

[Chenille Prince]

Melbourne Cup - no. Perth summer carnival - yes.

[Chenille Prince]

And at least another run to get him anywhere near his best. Should he get close to the money next start, he'll give Starcraft something to catch in the Cox.

[Sandgroper]

You're right goldmember, the Yalumba (Oct 9th) was reported to be Northerly's next start but now reports out of Melbourne are saying it will be the Turnbull Stakes (Oct 2nd). Perhaps Fred feels an earlier backup more advantageous.



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[Paddy]

Read somewhere that if he pulls up OK after the Turnbull Stakes, might then back up for the Yalumba. Then finally the Cox. As for the Perth summer carnival, from memory there's a couple of good WFA races he could start in. You never know.

[jaffa]

Perth Tips.

Can any of you WA contributors give me details of Wes Cameron who does tips on Sky Friday nights. He gives the best value chances of any Trot tipster in Aust for us eastern state punters.
I wouls like to know how to get his midweek tips for either G;oucester or other tracks.

Thanks Guys, if anything I can do for anyone in regard to Brisbane or Gold Coast enquiries please ask away.

[umrum]

He tips on racing radio over here. dont know about where else they appear. try going to the wa tab site which i think is http://www.ozsportsbet.com.au
if not that it might be http://www.tabsportsbet.com.au

and then find the racing radio link.

cheers
umrum

[Geez]

Could try this link jaffa

http://www.gloucesterpark.com.au/

[Geez]

YORK BEVERLEY CUP this Sunday - 1900m

1 CHASSEUR Dennis Ramsay 57
2 MAROONED PRINCE G F Durrant 56
3 GLITZY SHOW Graeme Ballantyne 55
4 SHOTGUN KID Mrs B M Dudley 54
5 KONJO K A Gronow 53.5
6 CO STRIKER B M Carpenter 53
7 HEALSVILLE M G Childs 52.5
8 CRYING IN VAIN D W Spry 52
9 ECONOMY FLIGHT B Monteleone 52
10 HALOGEN MISS G E Nicol 52
11 KILROE J G Pike 52
12 VINTAGE RED K R Mahoney 52

[jaffa]

Wes Cameron,

Umrum and Geez, thanks for your advice ,will try both thanks.

Jaffa

[FremantleDoctor]

YORK BEVERLEY CUP this Sunday - 1900m

1 Marooned Prince 10 56 Jason Miller G F Durrant
2 Glitzy Show 5 55 Jason Whiting G C Ballantyne
3 Shotgun Kid 7 54 Lucas Camilleri B M Dudley
4 Konjo 6 53.5 Shaun O'Donnell K A Gronow
5 Co Striker 4 53 Danny Miller B M Carpenter
6 Healsville 9 52.5 T. Ikenushi M G Childs
7 Economy Flight 3 52 William Pike B Monteleone
8 Halogen Miss 1 52 Paul King G E Nicol
9 Kilroe 8 52 Peter Knuckey J G Pike
10 Vintage Red 2 52 Corey Farrell K R Mahoney

[FremantleDoctor]

YORK BEVERLEY CUP

(8) Halogen Miss - great win this course and distance last start. Can go on with it.

(2) Glitzy Show - First ever win was at this course. Last couple of runs in the city good. Capable on her day.

(4) Konjo - Has run a few places this course. Not a bad run last start at Belmont. Capable of leading all the way.

(9) Kilroe - Should be nice EW odds. Had excuses when beaten by Halogen Miss 2 starts ago. Meets that horse 1.5kg better.

[MyHatMyCoat]

Stephen Miller has received a 6-month suspension after pleading guilty to 7 charges of illegal betting yesterday.

[demister jay]

Double whammy. Stephen’s pacing trainer-reinsman’s licence also suspended.

[Geez]

Marooned Prince EW for me in the cup. Scratched today for tomorrow.

[watsonnek]

Great return to racing by Refemme today, can only get better :wink:

[Geez]

Siesta Bay didn't get hot today. Perhaps 2nd-up blues !?

[Geez]

1st 3 SHOTGUN KID L CAMILLERI 13.70 3.30
2nd 4 KONJO S O'DONNELL 1.80
3rd 7 ECONOMY FLIGHT W PIKE 2.50
4th 8 HALOGEN MISS P KING


So much for my EW bet! Never got hot!!

[shaun1993]

On 2004-09-26 15:17, Geez wrote:
Siesta Bay didn't get hot today. Perhaps 2nd-up blues !?


Give him one more try, there was money today.

[Sandgroper]

Irish day over here on Sat Paddy so don't forget to give us your tip in the SHAMROCK CUP :wink:

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[Sandgroper]

And we have a listed race on Sat as well - BIRTHDAY STAKES over 1200 M.


1 Main Stage 10 57.5 A R Taylor
2 Dedicated Miss (B) 6 57 G F Durrant
3 Fair Alert 4 57 O R Sweetman
4 True Steel 19 56 M M Payne
5 Early Express 15 55.5 P J Giadresco
6 Dundally 18 54 J M Busslinger
7 Laetare (B) 14 54 E A Martinovich
8 Constantinople (B) 7 53.5 V G Ferrier
9 Mogul 8 53 L Smith
10 Western Tycoon 3 53 E A Martinovich
11 Metal Dump 5 52.5 S W Barrass
12 Track Jester (B) 2 52.5 W L Radford
13 Amba Ale (X) 16 52 R B Rogers
14 Moon Talk (B) 11 52 V A Brockman
15 Senate Lease 17 52 M J Nelson
16 Uncle Brian 1 52 R C Mc Pherson
17 Shane's Boy (B) E 1 9 52 M W Pateman
18 At A Loose End E 2 12 52 P J Fernie
19 Bar Screamer (B) E 3 13 52 M J Harding


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[Geez]

Belmont today.

PR5 Mercifully - Anywhere There - Shake Your Bob Bon - Miss Castaway

PR6 Eastcote - Tribulations - Knight School - All Our Smiles


PR7 Mungbean - Curragh's View - Fly Fonteyn - Nancina


PR8 Stormed - Risca Flight - Regal Tactic - Doctor William

[Church22]

Does anyone know anything about STorm BLitz that is racing today??

[Paddy]

On 2004-09-29 09:19, Sandgroper wrote:
Irish day over here on Sat Paddy so don't forget to give us your tip in the SHAMROCK CUP :wink:


Will do Perth Placegetter. That will be one less you'll need to worry about :smile:

[Sandgroper]

Final field Listed BIRTHDAY STAKES over 1200 M.

1 Main Stage 10 57.5 Troy Jackman A R Taylor
2 Dedicated Miss 6 57 Jason Miller G F Durrant
3 Fair Alert 4 57 William Pike O R Sweetman
4 True Steel 16 56 Craig Staples M M Payne
5 Early Express 12 55.5 Paul Harvey P J Giadresco
6 Dundally 15 54 Peter Hall J M Busslinger
7 Constantinople 7 53.5 Paul King V G Ferrier
8 Mogul 8 53 Lucas Camilleri L Smith
9 Western Tycoon 3 53 David O'Heare E A Martinovich
10 Metal Dump 5 52.5 Jason Whiting S W Barrass
11 Track Jester 2 52.5 Shaun Mc Gruddy W L Radford
12 Amba Ale 13 52 Dion Luciani R B Rogers
14 Senate Lease 14 52 Patrick Carbery M J Nelson
15 Shane's Boy 9 52 Alana Sansom M W Pateman
16 Uncle Brian 1 52 Troy Turner R C Mc Pherson



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[Sandgroper]

And let's not forget the Shamrock Cup over 2100.

1 Lados 2 57 Daniel Staeck F R Kersley
2 Mercedario(NZ) 4 55.5 Brad Parnham N D Parnham
3 Adventurer 7 54.5 Patrick Carbery A D Mathews
4 Sarah's Spirit 5 54.5 Paul Harvey S R Plumb
5 Shotgun Kid 12 54.5 Lucas Camilleri B M Dudley
7 Gambace 13 53.5 Jason Brown S L Miller
8 Idol Of Kings 1 53.5 Danny Miller W J Miller
9 Morocco Bound 10 53 Jason Whiting N L Newton
10 Escala 3 52.5 Paul King G E Nicol
11 Kontiki Sir 6 52.5 William Pike M W Pateman
13 Universal Warrior 8 52.5 Steven Parnham N D Parnham
15 Yes My Man 15 52.5 Peter Knuckey D K Morton


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[ra sun]

I backed Constantinopal last start and saw it was in tomorrow, anyone know what its paying at the moment?? and how do you rate its chances

[umrum]

On 2004-10-01 16:51, ra sun wrote:
I backed Constantinopal last start and saw it was in tomorrow, anyone know what its paying at the moment?? and how do you rate its chances


i don't rate it any chance mind you I didnt rate it when it won either. paper has it at 4.60.

[Geez]

WATAB fixed EW odds on the listed BIRTHDAY STAKES

EARLY EXPRESS $3.80
CONSTANTINOPLE $5.50
WESTERN TYCOON $7.50
METAL DUMP $7.50
FAIR ALERT $11.00
MOGUL $11.00
UNCLE BRIAN $12.00
AMBA ALE $14.00
DEDICATED MISS $15.00
SHANES BOY $21.00
TRACK JESTER $26.00
TRUE STEEL $35.00
DUNDALLY $35.00
SENATE LEASE $35.00
MAIN STAGE $41.00

[Chenille Prince]

On 2004-09-29 20:46, Paddy wrote:

On 2004-09-29 09:19, Sandgroper wrote:
Irish day over here on Sat Paddy so don't forget to give us your tip in the SHAMROCK CUP :wink:


Will do Perth Placegetter. That will be one less you'll need to worry about :smile:




So Paddy, where's your tip?

[Ozgooner]

Metal Dump for the Birthday Cup looks like a good bet.

[Paddy]

(13) Universal Warrior EW

[Geez]

I've got Universal Warrior in for 4th Paddy :smile:

Shotgun Kid - Gambace - Mercedario - Universal Warrior

[Geez]

Birthday Cup

Early Express - Fair Alert - Mogul - Metal Dump

[Chenille Prince]

Nice tipping Geez

[Paddy]

Yes well done indeed Geez!

Made up for my dismal effort!

Both winners! - $14.20 & $16.40 over here.
And the extra double to boot - $159.20

Good onya!! :smile:

[Geez]

Cheers Chenille Prince / Paddy.

Didn't pay as well over here Paddy, but not complaining :smile:

[demister jay]

Couple of very good runs on Saturday at Belmont - Track Jester and Just For Sam. Both have had a few injury problems, so good to see back on track. Just For Sam in particular looks a promising type.

[Sandgroper]

They were good runs demister jay, worth following.

Speaking of which, by far the best run of the day at Belmont yesterday was Silver Rolls. Now 3 from 3 and looks very promising.




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[Chenille Prince]

Was at the course yesterday Sandgroper (very small crowd!) and do agree Silver Rolls won very well.

There was also plenty of money around for newcomer Not So Square in the 2nd. Very nice run, only warming up over the last bit to finish 3rd only beaten .75L

[FremantleDoctor]

Good to see the Fred Kersley trained Tennilla break her maiden status (at her 28th start) on Monday. Being a maiden didn't deter her backers - opened around $12 on the tote for a final dividend of $7.40. IMO capable of going on with it.

[jaffa]

Hi guys, great site by the way.

Could any of you in wa, be able to email me
jsf_39@hotmail.com
any tips from Wes Cameron that are on Racing Radio over in WA for trot meetings.

Have tried to access their site but can't access his selections.

Any help appreciated.

Jaffa

[Geez]

Main race (7) TOODYAY today I like Kensington Park - Durham Girl - Our Big Marcus - Task Master.

[shaun1993]

On 2004-09-27 00:56, shaun1993 wrote:

On 2004-09-26 15:17, Geez wrote:
Siesta Bay didn't get hot today. Perhaps 2nd-up blues !?


Give him one more try, there was money today.




Much better run today!

[Paddy]

Something for you folk in the west, to sink your teeth into :wink:

Listed WATC ANNIVERSARY CUP - 1400M (16 Oct)

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 BLEVVO D R Harrison 57.5
2 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant 57
3 MAIN STAGE A R Taylor 57
4 TUMERIC Cliff Brown 56.5
5 EARLY EXPRESS P J Giadresco 55.5
6 TRUE STEEL Mrs M M Payne 55.5
7 SO CANNY S W Barrass 54.5
8 DUNDALLY J M Busslinger 53.5
9 LAETARE E A Martinovich 53.5
10 CONSTANTINOPLE V G Ferrier 53
11 WESTERN TYCOON E A Martinovich 53
12 MOGUL Lindsey Smith 52.5
13 STOCKIE'S YARN M W Pateman 52.5
14 TRACK JESTER W L Radford 52.5
15 METAL DUMP S W Barrass 52
16 POLIWHIRL S L Miller 52
17 PRINCE OF VASAC Mrs B M Dudley 52

[Sandgroper]

Yes we are back to Ascot with a vengeance (not like last year!). Looks like a 10 race program :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

On 2004-10-13 18:31, shaun1993 wrote:

On 2004-09-27 00:56, shaun1993 wrote:

On 2004-09-26 15:17, Geez wrote:
Siesta Bay didn't get hot today. Perhaps 2nd-up blues !?

Give him one more try, there was money today.

Much better run today!




Certainly was. Came home very well. Run will have improved further.


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[Paddy]

Listed WATC ANNIVERSARY CUP - 1400M (16 Oct)

Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 BLEVVO D R Harrison Ms A D Sansom 7 57.5
2 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant J F Miller 3 57
3 MAIN STAGE A R Taylor T K Jackman 1 57
4 TUMERIC Cliff Brown D J Staeck 6 56.5
5 EARLY EXPRESS P J Giadresco P J Harvey 14 55.5
6 TRUE STEEL Mrs M M Payne C L Staples 15 55.5
7 SO CANNY S W Barrass P D Knuckey 12 54.5
8 DUNDALLY J M Busslinger P Hall 5 53.5
9 CONSTANTINOPLE V G Ferrier P King 13 53
10 WESTERN TYCOON E A Martinovich D A O'Heare 8 53
11 MOGUL Lindsey Smith L Camilleri 2 52.5
12 STOCKIE'S YARN M W Pateman T K Turner 9 52.5
13 TRACK JESTER W L Radford S F Mc Gruddy 4 52.5
14 METAL DUMP S W Barrass J S Whiting 10 52
15 POLIWHIRL S L Miller J J Brown 11 52
16 PRINCE OF VASAC Mrs B M Dudley P J Carbery 16 52

[FremantleDoctor]

OzBET EW Prices ANNIVERSARY CUP

EARLY EXPRESS $4.50
WESTERN TYCOON $6.50
CONSTANTINOPLE $7.50
STOCKIES YARN $7.50
BLEVVO $10.00
TRACK JESTER $10.00
POLIWHIRL $12.00
DUNDALLY $14.00
MOGUL $14.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $14.00
METAL DUMP $17.00
DEDICATED MISS $21.00
MAIN STAGE $35.00
TUMERIC $71.00
TRUE STEEL $71.00
SO CANNY $201.00


EARLY EXPRESS good 2ndUP. Harvey to ride.
WESTERN TYCOON drawn OK. 2 good runs this time in.
STOCKIES YARN going great guns.
POLIWHIRL nicely weighted.

[umrum]

early express and track jester

[MyHatMyCoat]

(12) STOCKIES YARN
(5) EARLY EXPRESS
(11) MOGUL
(10) WESTERN TYCOON

[shaun1993]

Cup.

(11) Mogul
(5) Early Express
(2) Dedicated Miss
(4) Tumeric

[Raw Instinct]

Main Stage
Dundally
Early Express
Blevvo

[Sandgroper]

Back to Ascot yesterday with some big fields. As a result, a number of hard-luck stories to keep in mind, when doing your post-mortems.



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[Paddy]

Another listed race for you folk in the west, to sink your teeth into.


Listed BANKWEST BUSINESS STAKES - 1200M (23 Oct)

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 KAPRATS W L Radford 57
2 SECRET REMEDY Neville Parnham 57
3 RIVER MIST G E Daly 55.5
4 ELLICORSAM S L Miller 55
5 KAME'S HOPE Ross Price 55
6 WESTERN TYCOON E A Martinovich 55
7 PRINCE OF VASAC Mrs B M Dudley 54
8 CENTO Fred Kersley 53.5
9 CATION W L Radford 53
10 SECRET LINK Fred Kersley 52.5
11 DEAD EYE DICK B P Graham 52
12 FEISTY BUSINESS A F Smith 52
13 MAJOR DEAL W H Godecke 52
14 REGAL RAIDER Lindsey Smith 52
15 ROSE OF THUNDER D R Harrison 52
16 ROYAL FIRE Bob Maumill 52

[Ozgunner]

Make or break for Ellicorsam. Better field than the Hannans and she also up a lot in weight. EG meets Dead Eye Dick 2.5kgs worse than when they last met in that race.

[umrum]

On 2004-10-20 00:10, Ozgunner wrote:
Make or break for Ellicorsam. Better field than the Hannans and she also up a lot in weight. EG meets Dead Eye Dick 2.5kgs worse than when they last met in that race.


she'll win this on her ear.

[demister jay]

On 2004-10-05 14:15, Sandgroper wrote:
They were good runs demister jay, worth following.

Speaking of which, by far the best run of the day at Belmont yesterday was Silver Rolls. Now 3 from 3 and looks very promising.


In the last today. Obviously strong chance but might be short.

[demister jay]

Currently showing $2.60 win $1.40 place.
Tri 7-F-F and quartet with 7-2,5-F-F might the way to go.

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[Sandgroper]

Very disappointing demister jay, didn't get into the race at all. Blinkers could go on. Trainer told stewards after the race that he was of the opinion that Silver Rolls had failed to concentrate. :smile:




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[Sandgroper]

Final field listed Bankwest Business Stakes. No Ellicorsam.

1 KAPRATS W L Radford S F Mc Gruddy 5 57
2 SECRET REMEDY Neville Parnham S D Parnham (a) 8 57
3 RIVER MIST G E Daly P D Knuckey 4 55.5
4 KAME'S HOPE Ross Price J S Whiting 7 55
5 WESTERN TYCOON E A Martinovich T K Turner 10 55
6 CENTO Fred Kersley P J Carbery 2 53.5
7 CATION W L Radford P King 9 53
8 DEAD EYE DICK B P Graham N A Chapman 1 52
9 MAJOR DEAL W H Godecke D Luciani (a) 3 52
10 REGAL RAIDER Lindsey Smith Ms J D Valas (a) 6 52
11 ROYAL FIRE Bob Maumill D A Randall 11 52

The bottom weight anywhere near fit (racing first-up) would be extremely hard to beat.
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[Geez]

Cation - Cento - Dead Eye Dick - Royal Fire

[Paddy]

Current EW fixed odds:

ROYAL FIRE $4.60
WESTERN TYCOON $5.00
KAPRATS $6.50
CENTO $7.00
CATION $7.50
KAMES HOPE $8.00
DEAD EYE DICK $8.00
RIVER MIST $9.00
SECRET REMEDY $21.00
REGAL RAIDER $26.00
MAJOR DEAL $51.00


Secret Remedy looks a nice price.

[Sandgroper]

On 2004-10-22 01:35, Paddy wrote:
Current EW fixed odds:

ROYAL FIRE $4.60
WESTERN TYCOON $5.00
KAPRATS $6.50
CENTO $7.00
CATION $7.50
KAMES HOPE $8.00
DEAD EYE DICK $8.00
RIVER MIST $9.00
SECRET REMEDY $21.00
REGAL RAIDER $26.00
MAJOR DEAL $51.00


Secret Remedy looks a nice price.


Royal Fire does look better than these on best form, but some question-mark first-up. Did win a recent barrier trial which is a plus.

Outside that horse, very open, so Secret Remedy not without a chance Paddy.

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[Sandgroper]

Not a bad field for Sunday's Northam Cup (2200M). Bottom weight the one to beat. Very unlucky last start. Northam's long straight should suit nicely.

1 MOGUL Lindsey Smith L Camilleri 9 57
2 BOLD MIRAGE (NZ) Alan Mathews T K Turner 4 55.5
3 BRIGALOW W J Miller D R Miller (Snr) 6 55
4 MERCEDARIO (NZ) Neville Parnham S D Parnham (a) 11 54.5
5 SHOELESS N E Pascoe J J Brown 2 54.5
6 TAPDOG C W Lauritsen R B Mc Kay 15 54.5
7 CHASSEUR Dennis Ramsay P Hall 8 54
8 ADVENTURER Alan Mathews P J Carbery 5 52
9 KONJO K A Gronow N A Chapman 1 52
10 MON CHEVAL P R Ferguson S F Mc Gruddy 3 52
11 NO ANCHOR G G Patten J M Pouillet 14 52
12 NOON P J Fernie R Burnett (a) 7 52
13 SUDDEN RECOVERY B E Regan S L O'Donnell 10 52
14 SUPER TOM J R Bull 12 52
15 ZERO ENGAGEMENT R E Roney P King 13 52



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[demister jay]

Kames Hope
Western Tycoon
Kaprats
Dead Eye Dick

[demister jay]

Sunday.

Tapdog
Mercedario
Zero Engagement
Chasseur

[Paddy]

BANKWEST BUSINESS STAKES

Current EW fixed odds:

ROYAL FIRE $5.00
WESTERN TYCOON $5.50
DEAD EYE DICK $6.00
CATION $7.00
KAPRATS $7.50
RIVER MIST $8.00
CENTO $8.00
KAMES HOPE $8.50
REGAL RAIDER $15.00
SECRET REMEDY $26.00
MAJOR DEAL $61.00

[Paddy]

BANKWEST BUSINESS STAKES

Latest market movement:

Horse Now Was

ROYAL FIRE $5.00 $4.60
WESTERN TYCOON $5.50 $5.00
DEAD EYE DICK $6.00 $8.00
CATION $7.00 $7.00
KAPRATS $7.50 $6.50
RIVER MIST $8.00 $9.00
CENTO $8.00 $7.00
KAMES HOPE $8.50 $8.00
REGAL RAIDER $15.00 $26.00
SECRET REMEDY $26.00 $21.00
MAJOR DEAL $61.00 $51.00

[demister jay]

On 2004-10-22 14:51, demister jay wrote:
Kames Hope
Western Tycoon
Kaprats
Dead Eye Dick


1 KAPRATS 9.50 2.90
4 KAME'S HOPE 3.70
8 DEAD EYE DICK 1.80

QN 1* 4 $64.00
EX 1* 4 $135.00
TF 1* 4* 8 $618.10

:smile:

[Paddy]

Nice effort demister jay!

[Geez]

Did much better than me demister jay. Even better result had your top pick got the protest.

Northam Cup today.

Adventurer - Mercedario - Zero Engagement - Konjo

[Raw Instinct]

I tossed up between Kaprats and Kames Hope yesterday and ofcourse I went with the Fish on Kames Hope close but not quite.

I don't mind the look of maybe Konjo and Advenurer E/W in the Cup

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[demister jay]

PINJARRA Today.


Race 6

Dark N Dangerous
Our Blitz
Grand Cavalier
Task Master


Race 7

Ask Me Quick
Angel For Life
Mr Montana
Hero Of The Dawn

[Sandgroper]

According to WA press this morning, connections of Plastered have knocked back a $1.5 million offer from a prominent Victorian owner wanting to buy the horse before the Victoria Derby on Saturday.

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[umrum]

rogerson has been trying to buy it!
He said on racing radio this morning that it looks a cups horse all over for next year.

[Paddy]

You western folk have gone very quiet lately, I suppose you're just resting up for your big carnival which is just around the corner :smile:

[Sandgroper]

Not sure about the rest of the bunch Paddy, but my visits to this forum are becoming less frequent - a lot more negativity than normal imo.

As for our carnival, bring it on and looking forward to it!

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[jaffa]

Hi sandgroper, as a keen WA fan from the gold coast, I enjoy your and other wa posts.

Don't let some negative hicks stop you from giving your opinion mate.

Keep up good efforts

JF

[Sandgroper]

On the subject of the Ascot summer carnival, there's a new format this year for 4 of the most popular race dates of the carnival, condensing these into a week-long timeframe as follows:

Saturday, December 4 - Railway Stakes.
Wednesday, December 8 – Listed Jungle Dawn Classic.
Saturday, December 11 - Colonel Reeves Stakes.
Sunday, December 12 - Fruit ‘n’ Veg Stakes.

Going to be a great week!


PS. Thanks JF.


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[umrum]

[quote]
On 2004-11-03 17:56, Sandgroper wrote:
On the subject of the Ascot summer carnival, there's a new format this year for 4 of the most popular race dates of the carnival, condensing these into a week-long timeframe as follows:

Saturday, December 4 - Railway Stakes.
Wednesday, December 8 – Listed Jungle Dawn Classic.
Saturday, December 11 - Colonel Reeves Stakes.
Sunday, December 12 - Fruit ‘n’ Veg Stakes.

Going to be a great week!


PS. Thanks JF.


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Sandgroper :smile:

I'm not happy with sunday meeting and having the jungle dawn on the wednesday meeting is a pain.

[FremantleDoctor]

And why is that umrum. Care to elaborate?

[Geez]

From an interstate trainers perspective might find the new format attractive.
Could potentially bring over a few horses, aimed at a number of feature races, all happening over a short period.

[Sandgroper]

Could be right Geez, we'll have to wait and see.

To wet your appetite take a look at the current noms for Saturday's group 2 Winterbottom (1200m).

CATION 57.5
CENTO 57.5
DARK 'N' DANGEROUS 57.5
FAIR ALERT 57.5
HARDRADA 57.5
KAME'S HOPE 57.5
KAPRATS 57.5
MAJOR DEAL 57.5
MODEM 57.5
MR SANDGROPER 57.5
PRINCE OF VASAC 57.5
QUASAROCK 57.5
SECRET REMEDY 57.5
WESTERN TYCOON 57.5
ELLICORSAM 55
GOLDEN DELICIOUS 55
STIR PAK 55
REDWOLDT 52.5
REFEMME 50



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