Ratings Challenge

[QuickFunBet]

Randwick Race 6 Doncaster Hcp
10. Sky Cuddle
14. Al Maher
8. Ike's Dream
16. Utzon
11. Winning Belle
15. Danni Martine (1st Res.)
2. Court's In Session (2nd Res.)

Thanks,
QFB

[DR RON]

Doncaster Hcp

1 desert war
11 winning belle
14 al maher
2 courts in session
15 danni martine

8 ikes dream

[zorro]

Doncaster
14 3x21-Al Maher 3.00
8 1x31-Ike's Dream 5.00
2 1221-Court's In Session 5.70
10 x643-Sky Cuddle 10.70
15 4113-Danni Martine 10.70

[Sportz]

Scores from the two races on Saturday:

xpt driver 45 60
La Mer 50 50
Jimmy 50 50
The mug 45 55
zorro 47.5 50
Dr Ron 47.5 50
Chrome Prince 45 50
Sportz 47.5 45
QuickFunBet 40 50
Duritz 45 45
Heavyweight 45 45
ubetido 50 40
kiwi 47.5 25

[Sportz]

Doncaster:

8 IKE'S DREAM (76.5) $4.8
2 COURT'S IN SESSION (76.0) $5.5
11 WINNING BELLE (76.0) $5.5
1 DESERT WAR (73.5) $10.7
14 AL MAHER (72.5) $13.4
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15 DANNI MARTINE (72.0) $15.0

[the mug]

2- Courts in Session 4.70
14- Al maher 5.20
11- Winning Belle 8.20
1- Desert War 9.40
4- Modem 11.80

Good luck all..

[La Mer]

Doncaster Handicap
Winning Belle
Court's In Session
Al Maher
Desert War
Ike's Dream
Danni Martine

[Duritz]

OK here's my 80% market for the Doncaster. Have chopped and changed on this race, thought about it heaps, and have ended up with Desert War rated very highly, and being the horse I will back, because of these reasons:

1 - I think he might be a wet tracker... That win in the Epsom last spring prior to FLOPPING (with my money on him) in the Caul Cup was on an affected track, slow by my readings, and he hasn't hit one since. That was the wettest track he has raced on. (His other slow track run was a win two, but in a maiden at Gosford). He rated through the ROOF winning that day At Randwick over the same track, distance and state of the track.

2 - Last run looked a bit one paced (which wet trackers ARE), and possibly short of a run, which sets him up to peak today.

3 - Doncaster is a test of strength. He will get the PERFECT run, in a race which notoriously is difficult to lead all the way in. (I think, that's just on memory, not research).

4 - His home track. He performed so badly in Melb, maybe he hates travel.

5 - Trainer a genius.

Winning Belle is going to fly. No doubt about that. Huge run LS, will be suited coming back to the mile because it's such a tough race this one, the backup will just mean she is rock hard, will get nice run.

Courts in Session is very well placed, a very good racehorse who rates really well and has done so four runs in a row. Also get a very nice run.

This is a really interesting race. Am looking forward to it.

Good luck all!



RAN 6 3.05
seln mgn price name
1 0.0 $3.8 DESERT WAR
11 1.6 $7.0 WINNING BELLE
2 2.0 $8.6 COURTS IN SESSIO
8 2.6 $12.3 IKES DREAM
14 2.9 $15.5 AL MAHER

Emergency selections in case of another biblical deluge:
4 3.3 $20.5 MODEM
7 4.3 $48.2 PATEZZA
17 4.5 $56.3 TUI SONG-NZ

[Heavyweight]

Chrome Prince,
Thanks for your assistance. Still working on it. My problem seems to lie not so much with my pricing as with my cavalier approach to allocating bonuses and penalties. A hundred steps forward, 99 back again...

Sportz,
This has been a great competition. Thankz.

Sydney Race 6:

14. Al Maher $2.40
15. Danni Martine $6.50
2. Court's In Session $9.00
3. Toulouse Lautrec $17.00
17. Tui Song $21.00

Then Ike's Dream $26, Desert War $26, Winning Belle $31

Cheers all,

H.

[Chrome Prince]

Sydney Race 6

Winning Belle
Al Maher
Ike's Dream
Desert War
Court's In Session

Toulouse Lautrec
Danni Martine

[Jimmy]

Doncaster Hcp.

2 Court's In Session
11 Winning Belle
8 Ike's Dream
14 Al Maher
1 Desert War

15 Danni Martine
4 Modem

[kiwi]

Doncaster Hcp. Handicap


14 Al Maher $3.50

2 Court's In Session $4.25

8 Ike's Dream $9

3 Toulouse Lautrec $13.50

4 Modem $15.00

[xptdriver]

Gday All

I see the Docaster this way... good luck with whatever you back

RACE 6 Doncaster Handicap 3yo+ Group 1
8 Ike's Dream
2 Court's In Session
14 Al Maher
4 Modem
11 Winning Belle

[Sportz]

Well, we saved our worst for last. Not one of us had Patezza in our top 5. For what it's worth, here were our scores today:

zorro 15
Heavyweight 15
xpt driver 12.5
La Mer 12.5
Jimmy 12.5
Sportz 12.5
ubetido 12.5
kiwi 12.5
The mug 10
Dr Ron 10
Duritz 10
Chrome Prince 7.5
QuickFunBet 7.5

So, nobody improved on their scores from Saturday which means the final scoreboard for the comp looks like this:

Sportz 1065
zorro 995
La Mer 962.5
Jimmy 930
Dr Ron 927.5
QuickFunBet 920
Top Rank 860
Duritz 835
xpt driver 832.5
Heavyweight 817.5
ubetido 790
Chrome Prince 695
The mug 692.5
Filante 510
kiwi 475

[Paddy]

Well, we saved our worst for last. Not one of us had Patezza in our top 5. For what it's worth, here were our scores today:

zorro 15
Heavyweight 15
xpt driver 12.5
La Mer 12.5
Jimmy 12.5
Sportz 12.5
ubetido 12.5
kiwi 12.5
The mug 10
Dr Ron 10
Duritz 10
Chrome Prince 7.5
QuickFunBet 7.5

So, nobody improved on their scores from Saturday which means the final scoreboard for the comp looks like this:

Sportz 1065
zorro 995
La Mer 962.5
Jimmy 930
Dr Ron 927.5
QuickFunBet 920
Top Rank 860
Duritz 835
xpt driver 832.5
Heavyweight 817.5
ubetido 790
Chrome Prince 695
The mug 692.5
Filante 510
kiwi 475


Nicely done Sportz, congrats ;)

[DR RON]

Yes well tallied sportz.

[La Mer]

So, nobody improved on their scores from Saturday which means the final scoreboard for the comp looks like this:

Sportz 1065
zorro 995
La Mer 962.5
Jimmy 930
Dr Ron 927.5
QuickFunBet 920
Top Rank 860
Duritz 835
xpt driver 832.5
Heavyweight 817.5
ubetido 790
Chrome Prince 695
The mug 692.5
Filante 510
kiwi 475

Well done Sportz

[Sportz]

Thanks. It's been a very interesting challenge. Good fun. :)

[Duritz]

Yes very well done Sportz, you were very consistent and deserved to win.

This has been a really fun comp, thanks for running it, if anyone wants to do another one I'll be in!!!

I don't have the patience or expertise to run one, however I'll participate.

Thanks again.

[Chuck]

so, any word about this stable comp, Sportz?

[Sportz]

Yeah, I'll start it up soon. In the meantime, try to work out some horses you think will be able to win races at metropolitan meetings on Saturdays and Public Holidays over the next couple of months. It'll go from April 9 to June 13. We'll have 10 horses in our stable, 5 'Group A' horses and 5 'Group B' horses. We'll be betting twice as much on the Group A horses. Have a think about it.

[Chuck]

what will be the limits though? I mean, what stops someone from picking Alinghi, Grand Armee, Fastnet Rock, Spark of Life and Elvstroem. Will there be a cost for each horse or something like that??

just loving this idea already

[Sportz]

No limits. For two reasons.

(1) Remember we'll be starting this AFTER the Sydney carnival's finished so the absolute highest class runners will probably not be around.

(2) If you pick the top class horses, they probably won't pay a lot or they will all be running in the same races against each other, so it wouldn't be a huge advantage. It would be an advantage if we were tallying up prizemoney won by the horses, but we're not. We're tallying up money won by betting on them.

[DR RON]

Did anyone notice that the last race winner in sydney on saturday Mr Clang that paid about $ 61 or something similar was also entered in a race in Brisbane the same day, a much easier race at that where he was almost favourite prepost.??

[Chrome Prince]

Dr Ron,

Not sure the best way to easily follow this, but dual acceptances return very good value. I've looked back at some results and there are some very good dividends.

Dual acceptances, usually means the trainer doesn't want to miss an opportunity as the horse is ready to show something.

[DR RON]

CP Do you know of any sites that have this info, There was 1 that I knew of but cant remember. Normally the trainer goes for the easier race.

[ubetido]

Hi all

Dr Ron:

Working class man was also a dual acceptance horse. Yes you are correct that at times they do get up at good odds.

I vaguely recall a service whereby they would email you dual acceptances for a fee. Not sure who it was but someone may know.

Thanks everyone its been fun being in the comp.

cheers
ubetido

[Tubby]

I keep forgetting to back these dual acceptors.

2 today that I know of:

<TABLE cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD rowSpan=3><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>14</TD><TD class=RaceDivs></TD><TD class=RaceDivs>UMAQUEST </TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>23.10</TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>5.50</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>9</TD><TD class=RaceDivs> </TD><TD class=RaceDivs>RA SUN </TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right></TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>5.20</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>5</TD><TD class=RaceDivs> </TD><TD class=RaceDivs>ZANKEL </TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right></TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>2.40</TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD class=RaceDivs></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=RaceDivs align=right> 6</TD><TD class=RaceDivs></TD><TD class=RaceDivs>ROAD WORKER </TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>5.10</TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>1.70</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>4</TD><TD class=RaceDivs> </TD><TD class=RaceDivs>SAFARI SUNBEAM </TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right></TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>1.20</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>3</TD><TD class=RaceDivs> </TD><TD class=RaceDivs>FINNISS SEA </TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right></TD><TD class=RaceDivs align=right>NTD</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



I am wondering if I should back San Vitale in the second last race at the coast?

[Sportz]

A bit shorter than the other 2. :)