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Duritz
13th February 2005, 12:04 PM
This is a thread for the Colac races today. First of all, I don't think I've ever done the form for Colac before. Can anyone tell me what it's like, what kind of runners it suits, etc? The OZEFORM track map helped slightly, but only slightly.
Duritz
xptdriver
13th February 2005, 12:19 PM
Race 1
1 Electric General (7) D Dunn
5 Tessie Rossa (4) Ryan Maloney (a 1.5)
7 Love On The Rocks (2) J Mott (a 2.0)
8 Perfect Nature (9) N Wilson
xptdriver
13th February 2005, 12:30 PM
Gday Duritz,
below are the track record times for Colac..
1000m 00:57.0
1100m 01:03.2
1200m 01:10.1
1600m 01:36.6
2000m 02:01.5
2700m 03:12.0
Looking at the map I make the following assumptions.
Barriers become important in 1400 and 1600m races. There is a short run to the first turn.. 1000 and 1100 m races start in the back straight with one long turn to the 350 m straight... 1200m Races start in a shute off the back straight.
The track is 140m with a 350 m stráight
I hope that helps a bit
Duritz
13th February 2005, 12:43 PM
Yeah ta.... I've done my own form for a couple of races, I'll post those now, and I'll also post my automated ratings for the next.
race 6 3.20
seln mgn price name
1 0.0 $3.7 RULING EYES
8 0.7 $5.3 MANY ARE CALLED
7 1.7 $10.4 ALEXANDERS MAGIC
10 1.8 $11.9 NO HIGH NO SONG
4 2.3 $19.6 TRANSFERRAL
9 2.7 $32.2 BABE ZAHARIAS
13 2.9 $38.9 BATTLE SONG
14 3.7 $85.5 BENEVOLE
race 7 3.55
seln mgn price name
8 0.0 $5.1 BELLASTORM
7 0.0 $5.2 PRINCESS OF OZ
6 0.7 $7.5 GOLDEN NOTES
3 1.4 $11.7 UMATILLY
1 1.5 $12.5 ROCOTTO
9 2.2 $25.2 FENTON
4 2.4 $29.8 KUNIYA
5 2.4 $30.2 REDINESS
Those were done by me, the following just by the computer
race 2 12.56
seln mgn price name
14 0.0 $1.5 WHITTIER MISS
8 3.7 $34.0 CYAR
13 15.6 $145.4 SQUARE DANCER
Computer clearly likes the 14 in the next.... I think the computer has just left to get down to the TAB to back it, because it's $14 on the tote! Wouldn't take much notice of ratings in a race like this though.
xptdriver
13th February 2005, 12:51 PM
Gday Duritz...
I kinda agree with your puter there...
but here is what I have come up for race 2
Race 2
7 Zwahillion (12)
2 Flowing Along (5)
6 Was That You (15)
14 Whittier Miss (8)
Sportz
13th February 2005, 12:58 PM
Was That You was obviously an over the line job.
xptdriver
13th February 2005, 01:04 PM
Was That You was obviously an over the line job.
Gday Sportz...
maybe so.... but not at $1.70 .. bring on the next
Sportz
13th February 2005, 01:09 PM
By 'over the line job' I mean one of those horses they've been hiding away and setting for a huge plunge on a country track and it goes out and wins as easily as anything. If you knew exactly how good it was, $1.70 would be brilliant!
Duritz
13th February 2005, 01:10 PM
Exactly. Just not getting involved in those.
Duritz
13th February 2005, 01:24 PM
Computer has tail b/w legs, and just borrowed some money off me so it can bet in the next. It has come up with this:
race 3 1.32
seln mgn price name
7 0.0 $1.7 MISS PUGIN
2 2.4 $9.8 CROWN APPEAL
3 3.2 $26.3 SWING SHIFT
13 13.7 $165.2 JEUNEBETE
And it is very confident about getting it's money back. Mind you, it had a manic glint in it's eye, and it took a quick shot of scotch. I think it's chasing it's losses.
xptdriver
13th February 2005, 01:28 PM
Gday Boys
after gettin kicked in the last race we can only try again
6 Irish Princess (NZ) (13) B Melham (a 1.5)
2 Crown Appeal (7) M Pegus
7 Miss Pugin (2) Ryan Maloney (a 1.5)
1 Classical Player (10) B Werner
As an aside... personlly unraced horses are not supported by this bloke if they start under evens... just a rule I have had over the years is all
Duritz
13th February 2005, 01:47 PM
Well my computer is out on the street, busking for coins to have another bet for Miss Pugin getting beat. I am going out to lunch, you have my ratings for later, here's the computer's thoughts for the next couple.
race 4 2.08
seln mgn price name
4 0.0 $3.6 BOTERO
3 0.6 $4.8 CRYSTALLION
5 1.0 $6.2 BRIONY GIRL
6 1.8 $11.4 CLAREMAAN
2 2.1 $16.2 VADIM
7 4.8 $364.8 SHORTSPAN
race 5 2.44
seln mgn price name
8 0.0 $2.7 TEMPO
10 0.8 $4.2 CLASSIC ED
7 2.9 $29.7 SESACIOUS
1 3.0 $34.4 PETIT CADEAU
12 3.1 $38.9 MERRY DRINKER
17 3.2 $41.0 SWIFT MOOKTA
9 3.2 $41.3 ELEGANZ
5 3.3 $46.6 JACQUES LE NAIF
Good luck all. I'll be back later to punt on 6&7
xptdriver
13th February 2005, 02:04 PM
Some joy last race
here is the next
2 Vadim (NZ) (6) D Dunn
5 Briony Girl (7) J Mott (a 2.0)
1 Casino Boy (1) Ms N Fisher (a 3.0)
3 Crystallion (4) B Melham (a 1.5)
Sportz
13th February 2005, 02:09 PM
For what it's worth, here are the ratings I've worked out for the Colac Cup:
10 No High No Song (61.5) $2.40
8 Many Are Called (60.0) $4.00
3 Iona Avenue (58.0) $7.40
4 Transferral (57.0) $10.10
1 Ruling Eyes (55.5) $17.40
--------------------------------
14 Benevole (53.5) $40.50
7 Alexander's Magic (52.5) $81.00
9 Babe Zaharias (52.5) $81.00
boxhead
13th February 2005, 03:07 PM
G'day,
Hope you had a tri in r5 before you went to lunch
Sportz
13th February 2005, 03:30 PM
Yeah, well done on R5 Duritz.
I could have had the $2500 trifecta on the Cup, but I wasn't confident enough (or smart enough) to take one. I usually concentrate on the top 6 and simply boxing them or using 8 or 10 as rovers would have been successful. I did have the $151 quinella though, so that was handy.
Duritz
13th February 2005, 03:37 PM
Clever me didn't bet on races 4 or 5
Duritz
13th February 2005, 04:02 PM
Got a winner there, double the rated odds
Back baby!!
Duritz
13th February 2005, 04:33 PM
Forgot to post, I didn't bet in race 8 but the computer is loaded now, this is how it had the race
race 8 4.30
seln mgn price name
2 0.0 $3.2 THE MOOKSTA
10 1.2 $6.2 BOY CANNY GO
9 1.8 $10.3 FUTURE PERFECT
7 2.3 $16.2 SHADES OF EIRE
3 2.3 $17.9 MUSIC STAR
4 2.6 $24.6 BEAU GALLANT
12 3.0 $41.1 KENROSE
1 3.2 $49.5 SHANGOS IMAGE
It's drinking Johnny Walker Blue label now
Sportz
13th February 2005, 04:43 PM
Yeah, it came up with Future Perfect as a definite value winner. Some good odds winners today at Colac, but all of them were quite possible to have.
Duritz
13th February 2005, 05:08 PM
have quickly done the last and backed numbers 6,8,14
here's my prices
sey 9 5.07
seln mgn price name
1 0.0 $4.4 ROBBOS PAL
4 0.4 $5.3 CARIDALE
6 0.9 $7.2 RACING DEMON
8 1.8 $14.5 HES A HARRY
14 1.9 $14.7 DUKES UP
2 2.2 $20.7 CAPTAIN SPALDING
10 2.9 $46.7 TAWNY BIRD
7 3.5 $86.1 PRINCESS GABRIEL
Duritz
13th February 2005, 05:16 PM
scst 8 4.30
seln mgn price name
3 0.0 $2.9 SECRET STASH
11 1.8 $9.2 SILVER HOPE
12 2.1 $12.4 MR ROMANY
2 2.3 $15.7 LOCAL
9 2.5 $21.2 MAMBO STAR
13 2.7 $26.1 COUNTRY PACK
4 2.8 $27.6 RUSTIC RAMBLER
1 3.0 $38.4 KALINGA METAL
computer decided it wanted a look at caloundra the last...
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