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michaelg 5th May 2011 09:56 PM

Ricardo48, that's not a bad idea.

However, it would have missed Tuesday's $80 winner, the quinella and trifecta.

I'll stick with the current cut-off price of $99 because the method after a few days is showing a profit. But if it fails I'll most likely rethink it, particularly for races where there are more than 8 selections that are under $100.

michaelg 6th May 2011 11:35 AM

Today's selections:

Sun Coast
3/ 1, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13

Bendigo
1/ 2, 4, 5, 10, 11, 14, 15
2/ 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 14
3/ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 11
4/ 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15
5/ 4, 5, 6, 8, 13, 14
7/ 2, 4, 13, 16, 18
8/ 5, 6, 8, 10, 11

Taree
2/ 1, 4, 5, 6, 9, 10
4/ 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, 12
8/ 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 11

Wagga
2/ 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10
5/ 1, 2, 3, 8, 9
6/ 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9
7/ 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11

Win outlay $98
Quinella outlay $285
Trifecta outlay $2,808

michaelg 6th May 2011 07:07 PM

Not a good day. With late scratchings the loss on Win was $29.20, on Quinellas it was $38 and Trifectas it was $987 - too many faves won.

However, applying a couple of filters I layed the resulting selections of the non-qualifiers for a libility of $30. There were 44 selections for 44 smiles for a profit of $48.46. I don't have yesterday's details except that there was one accident but still I finished with a profit of $6.49.

max 11th May 2011 11:02 PM

Are there any other filters you can apply, such as dropping the 1st fav? How does that affect the Quin stats?

michaelg 12th May 2011 07:34 AM

Max, I don't know what will start as the fave.

Before this method, I've sometimes looked at the fave in both D.Scott's market and also the Tele market but their faves quite often can eventually be third or fourth fave in the real market.

The system was still in profit when I lost interest due to my preference with lay betting. However one day I might look at it again, or a variation.

beton 12th May 2011 11:37 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Max, I don't know what will start as the fave.

Before this method, I've sometimes looked at the fave in both D.Scott's market and also the Tele market but their faves quite often can eventually be third or fourth fave in the real market.

The system was still in profit when I lost interest due to my preference with lay betting. However one day I might look at it again, or a variation.


Michaelg Hello
A thought came to me when I read this. "Before this method, I've sometimes looked at the fave in both D.Scott's market and also the Tele market but their faves quite often can eventually be third or fourth fave in the real market." So the public thinks that these markets are wrong and makes their own. How often are they wrong?

The general consensus is that the winner is in the top 5 pre-post and/or the top 5 in the market. In most cases they are the same horses with a different order of preference. The obvious answer is enough to make it unviable. did you notice a trend that these Don Scott horses that went out in the real market only to win? I am trying to polish a 3rd fav system.
Hav a good day Beton

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michaelg 12th May 2011 12:44 PM

Beton, I've found that the Tele, D.S. and real market faves can quite often be quite different.

As a matter of interest, I am under the impression that betting the Betfair fave on Betfair more or less breaks-even, yet from my somewhat scant research betting the Tele fave and also the D.S. fave shows a very small profit with Betfair - this was based on Betfair's last-traded price before S.P. was introduced.

Seeing that S.P. is just about identical to the last-traded price, I would not be surprised if backing the Tele and D.S. faves would still show a profit.

max 12th May 2011 03:51 PM

Beton.

What about a DS fav that are not market fav but still in the top 5?

I like 3rd fav systems as well and have working for years on such systems. Would to exchange what works for us both if you are up for it. My 3,4,5 system in another thread is based on the 3rd favourite. Email perhaps?


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