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Old 3rd May 2011, 06:50 PM
michaelg michaelg is offline
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Wink Don Scott Quinellas

This morning I decided to look at Quinellas based on D.S's market. I applied the rules:

1) Minimum of 12 starters.
2) Box all selections under $100 in D.S.'s market.
3) A no-bet race if D.S.'s fave is odds-on.

The results using Unitab divvies are:

Qualifying races = 12.
Successful Quinellas = 10.
Outlay of $252
Return of $401
Profit of $149

I did not look at trifectas because the TAB take-out for quinellas is a few percentage points less than trifectas. However it would also have been a winning day because it struck the trifecta at W'bool R10 which paid inxs of $3,400 ($5,000 on NSW TAB).

I know one good day does not a winning method make but I'll be again looking at it tomorrow.
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Old 4th May 2011, 12:28 AM
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Thanks for sharing those findings Michael,

It looks interesting.
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Old 4th May 2011, 10:41 AM
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I'll list today's selections and see how they go:

Warwick Farm
7/ 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 11

Eagle Farm
6/ 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 11, 12, 13

Murray Bridge
4/ 1, 4, 7, 8, 12
6/ 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 11
7/ 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 10
8/ 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 14

W'bool
3/ 3, 4, 7, 10, 12, 13, 14
4/ 1, 3, 4, 5, 10, 15, 16
6/ 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13, 14, 16, 19
7/ 1, 4, 8, 10, 15, 20

Pinjarra
2/ 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13
3/ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 11
4/ 1, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 13
5/ 2, 3, 4, 7, 9, 12
7/ 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13, 14, 15, 17
8/ 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14

Quinella outlay of $465.
Trifecta outlay of $6,498

Without any large divvies it'll be a wipe-out.
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Old 4th May 2011, 02:41 PM
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I for one, am prepared for you to take that risk.
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Old 4th May 2011, 02:55 PM
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I will not say that is not a good idea but to put up 460 plus dollars with just one days past results is utter maddness .
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Old 4th May 2011, 03:18 PM
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Job123, you're right, it's utter madness.

However, I'm not betting them, I'm just testing them on paper.

I'm also testing the Win bet on Betfair S.P. assuming a $5 bet, and after 9 races its almost $100 in profit, and with NSW TAB about $80 in profit. Quinellas are currently about $50 in the red.
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Old 4th May 2011, 03:53 PM
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What are you doing for the win bet? Putting $5 to win on each of the selections below $100 in each race that qualifies?
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Old 4th May 2011, 04:27 PM
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I used to box the top 5 rated with excellent results long term.
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Old 4th May 2011, 04:31 PM
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That's it, Max.

Bet $5 on each qualifying horse with Betfair S.P.

Darky, you've stopped???
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Old 4th May 2011, 05:08 PM
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Paper trading is utter madness.
Checking results at the end of the day, seeing how much you may have won or lost, collating over a month, a year whatever.
It doesn't take into account the rollercoaster of emotions that will (I say will and not may) affect your decisions. It's ok to say that a system would be ahead after a certain amount of time, but would any of us be prepared to put on that $1000 bet when all we're trying to do is win $1 or break even on the result. Especially if we started with $1 bets and if this one loses the bank is gone etc etc etc
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