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place2win 16th October 2009 04:35 AM

Favourite stats
 
Think this has been put up before, but I am unable to find
anything in the archives:
Need favourites who won by price/percentage
The avg of all favourites winning is approx 30%
What I need is the breakdown by price (winning favs only)

1: price $0-$1.5 plus %
2: price $1.5 -$2 plus %
3: price $2 - $2.5 plus %
4: price $2.5 - $2.99 plus %

5: price $3 - $3.5 plus %
6: price $3.5 - $4 plus %
7: price $4 - $4.5 plus %
8: price $4.5 - $5 plus %

9: price $5.01 up plus %


Would be greatly appreciated if at all possible

Regards
Shalor

partypooper 16th October 2009 12:00 PM

place2win, shucks I can't answer your question which annoys me as I purchased a book on this subject (in depth) a few years ago chucked out by my ** wife grrrr!

Anyway just by way of feedback, as you already know the lower the price the higher the S/R and also the LOWER the loss. In other words the ones that give you the best chance of breaking even are believe it or not "ODDS ON SHOTS".
Tantalisingly this holds true for just about any set of selections picked by any method.
Now that's a bit disconcerting when you really think about it isn't it?

Interesting also almost exact figures are derived from the pre-post fav V actual favs. over long periods of time.

Stix 16th October 2009 01:37 PM

8-odd years of Metro racing - 31.25% of Favs win - 11,614 Fav's winning


1: price $0-$1.5 plus 4.2%
2: price $1.5 -$2 plus 17.3%
3: price $2 - $2.5 plus 21.9%
4: price $2.5 - $2.99 plus 21.3%
5: price $3 - $3.5 plus 16.1%
6: price $3.5 - $4 plus 10.5%
7: price $4 - $4.5 plus 5.3%
8: price $4.5 - $5 plus 2.1%
9: price $5.01 up plus 1.3%

place2win 16th October 2009 02:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stix
8-odd years of Metro racing - 31.25% of Favs win - 11,614 Fav's winning


1: price $0-$1.5 plus 4.2%
2: price $1.5 -$2 plus 17.3%
3: price $2 - $2.5 plus 21.9%
4: price $2.5 - $2.99 plus 21.3%
5: price $3 - $3.5 plus 16.1%
6: price $3.5 - $4 plus 10.5%
7: price $4 - $4.5 plus 5.3%
8: price $4.5 - $5 plus 2.1%
9: price $5.01 up plus 1.3%
Thankyou Stix,
That is very interesting stats, would it be assumed then that this would
generally apply to country/prov sun-mon also

Regards
Shalor

Stix 16th October 2009 02:23 PM

Favourties System
1. Favourite for race
2. Not First Up
3. Not Placed last Start
4. Apprentice Rider
5. Gelding or Horse only

Selections 713
Wins 241 (33.8%)
Plcs 463(64.9%)
Win Units 48
Plc Units 8

2009
Selections 74
Wins 24 (32.4%)
Plcs 44 (59.5%)
Win Units 2.4
Plc Units -2.9

Stix 16th October 2009 02:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by place2win
Thankyou Stix,
That is very interesting stats, would it be assumed then that this would
generally apply to country/prov sun-mon also

Regards
Shalor
I guess you could assume that, but I can not confirm. Someone else perhaps?

partypooper 16th October 2009 09:47 PM

It's well known that I am as dumb as, cos I've been married twice, so I perused that list stix, and I'm sure that I have just "missed" it, but just to humour me can you explain say the first stat, $0-$1.5plus = 4.2%???

Dennis G 16th October 2009 10:18 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by partypooper
It's well known that I am as dumb as, cos I've been married twice, so I perused that list stix, and I'm sure that I have just "missed" it, but just to humour me can you explain say the first stat, $0-$1.5plus = 4.2%???
I think that 4.2% is the percentage of all winners, not the winning percentage in that range. If you add all the percentages up they come to 100%.

partypooper 17th October 2009 12:23 AM

oooowwhaaa, mmmmm, ok, so 4.2% of all favs. fall in range yes?

Ok so what we want to know is of that 4.2% WHAT % win and WHAT do they return for each $ bet..... YES?

Further to that we need to know:
@ best tote
@best tote or SP
@ Top fluc

I suspect close to 90% i.e. 10% loss on tuurnover (@best possible price)....... right?

I also suspect that if you say LESS than evens your LOT (loss on turnover , regardless of selection method will decrease to close to 5%)

So where to now then?????

place2win 17th October 2009 12:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stix
8-odd years of Metro racing - 31.25% of Favs win - 11,614 Fav's winning


1: price $0-$1.5 plus 4.2%
2: price $1.5 -$2 plus 17.3%
3: price $2 - $2.5 plus 21.9%
4: price $2.5 - $2.99 plus 21.3%
5: price $3 - $3.5 plus 16.1%
6: price $3.5 - $4 plus 10.5%
7: price $4 - $4.5 plus 5.3%
8: price $4.5 - $5 plus 2.1%
9: price $5.01 up plus 1.3%
If I am right? the % beside each price range is the % of winning favs only
That was what I originally asked for (Only winning favs in the respective price range) and this only applys to metro events.

To make it clearer, maybe I should have asked the following:
In the above price ranges, what percentage ot favourites won their race.


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