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On 2003-10-26 18:54, La Mer wrote:
La Mer: Chrome Prince - Defier has beaten Lonhro home as many times Lonhro has beaten Defier. The score is 4 each and not 4-2 in Lonhro's favour. Defier has finished second in two Cox Plates while Lonhro has managed a third in two Cox Plates.
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I was comparing when one of the horses won a race, it matters not to me if one horse finished fourth and one finished second.
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Your comments re Lonhro not liking the Valley are well off the mark - nothing at all to do with the Valley, the fact was Lonhro moved up to challenge at the turn yesterday and once again could not sustain his run in a pressure race - it has happened twice now, yesterday and in the Doncaster Handicap when Grand Armee clearly outsprinted him in the run home.
If Lonhro did not handle the Valley then he simply wouldn't have been where he was at the turn, one length off the lead, but he was and while excuses can be made the facts are that in probablity he will retire to stud next year without ever winning one of the major races in Austrlia and therefore will not go down as a memorable champion. Good he may well be, but champions are made of sterner stuff.
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Interesting take you have there.
How can my comments be way off the mark when clearly he didn't stretch out as normal after rounding the home turn.
It is the only (to my knowledge) banked track in Australia and some horses just do not perform well on certain tracks.
The fact that Lonhro is a superior horse, is indicated by he was where he was rounding the home turn IN SPITE of not being able to run at his best on the track.
We seem to be concentrating on the pace of the race etc etc
2003 Cox Plate Time:2:07.61 last 600 38.48
2002 Cox Plate Time:1:26.30
2001 Cox Plate Time:1:25.80
So it was one of the slowest Cox Plates and had Lonhro been able to handle the track, it would have been a different outcome.
Each to their own.
Are we all forgetting Northerly's defeats to lesser horses:
Freemason
Grand City
Republic Lass
Mr Trickster (a provincial specialist)
Yell
He failed to ever win a race in Sydney, and yet he is branded a champion???