You'd cringe to here this Imagele but a good mate of mine only bets on distance maidens. He studies hard and shows very healthy profits. He believes the distance aspect sorts out most of the first starters who you have no idea about. And he likes maidens because of the set weights and similar form lines they produce. Just funny how two serious punters have such differing views. I lived in Darwin for three years through 1999 - 2002, great place to punt but you are dead right BJ you find many short priced commoditities for these very reasons. Would love to be able to just do Darwin, Alice form but the pools are just to insignificant to profit from, And no betting agency will bet fixed odds.