Rules.
Target races with 9-13 runners only.

Target the first 5 names in Pre post market.

.Must be in top 5 in Win percentage rankings.

.Must also be in top 5 in Place percentage rankings.

If left 3 or less selections bet them all.

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Hey Bhagwan,

Sounds interesting, have you any stats on this..?

Paul

It seems to work best on any Handicap race where longer priced horses tend to get up.

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Hi Bhagwan, I did a brief test on this (on paper) on Tuesday Races.
I left out Maiden races and only went on the others that had 9-13 starters.
The result i got wasn't brilliant Out $24 for Return of only $4.90 (2 winners from 9 races) BUT I did a comparison on the same races using top 5 API (suggested by LuckyBoy in another post), which gave a return of $22 from an outlay of $31. Not remarkable, people may say but if we had dutched them on an outlay of $10 per race the result was out $100 return $107. Still not a big deal but this was 4 winners paying $11.10/$2.10/$5.90/2.80 and there were quite a few bets on horses showing over $13.00 at the time.
(After looking back at the races 4 of them had 4 qualifiers so under the top 3 rule they would not have been eligible. Of those 4 races there was only the $2.10 winner therefore the real picture is much better.
i.e using the API for the TOP 3 the outlay would've been $19 and return $19.90 and dutching woul have been outlay $60 return $94.40).
Sorry about that confusion

I was "Dutching" probably a couple of hours before the jump, so a potential max price limit would help.
Certainly needs a bit more attention.

Too much on this weekend to have much of a go myself, but when I can I'll try out on slightly adjusted rules :

Handicap Races but not maidens.
9-13 starters after scratchings.
First 5 in the prepost market taken from R & S.
First 5 in API (Ave Prizemoney Index).
If 3 or less qualifiers in a race, back them for a win or Dutch them.

Thanks again Bhagwan for pointing us in the right direction

Regards......Mancunian

Thanks M for your valuable input & kind words.

Those figures look impressive.

Dutching does improve the figures where the winners are shorter priced which makes up the majority of winners , but if its a day where the odd $15.00 & $20 winners decide to get up, betting the same amount will obviously produce a greater return.

I guess its a question of wheather its a day for the 2 favs getting up or a day for the longer priced horses that get up.

I have always been amazed at some of the excellent prices that get up in Hcp events, therefore well worth targeting.

I use Betfair where the prices are often double to that show on the TAB once they get over $10 as shown on the TAB.
For instance Townsville R4/6 Thur 25th Simones Got Class paid $16.70 UniTAB
it was 3rd Fav in R & S pre post, but it was up to 10 pts better on Betfair.

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Selections for todays Races :
Randwick
Race 4 - 2/6/9
Race 5 - 3/5/10
Race 7 - 1/5/10
Kyneton
Race 6 - 1/2/3
Race 8 - 1/2/3

May revisit Kyneton Races 7 and 9 to get prices closer to jump time as they both have 4 qualifiers but 1 in each race may get eliminated if outside the price range.

Cheers.....Mancunian

No good today
on win bets it would've been out $15 return $2.40.
dutching outlay (at $10 per race) $50 for a return of ($12.40).

Will check a bit further for a while

cheers...Mancunian

A few selections for today:

Ipsw
R7 - 2/5
R9 - 1/3/10
Geel
R5 - 2/4/6
R7 - 1/9
Wyong
R7 - 1/2/4
R8 - 1/3/5
Belm
R4 - 6/8

May check Belm Races 5, 7, 8 later to look for possible eliminations - too many qualifiers at this stage.

Cheers.....Mancunian

Results
7 Races 4 winners
For Win Bet - Outlay $18 return $22.10 Vic TAB.
Dutching @ $10 per race - Outlay $70 return $56.50.

Note : one left out because div showing $19.10 when I checked some 2 hours before the race was Ipsw Race 7 #1 which won and paid $13.00 !

Anyway aside from that there are some promising signs and I feel worth pursuing a bit further.

Cheers.....Mancunian.

Top 3 sels Fri 03 Oct

MRY R5 - 2/3/5
MRY R7 - 2/8
ROK R6 - 1/6/8
ROK R7 - 2/3/5
TAM R8 - 4/5/8
WMB R8 - 1/3

cheers.....Manc