After these words from the good Lord on Dale's 'Rock Hard' thread, I decided to open some debate on Win v Place systems.

My opinion is that it is all relative. You get a higher POT with quality win selections, however you stake less due to the higher runs of outs.

The issue I have is getting value for the place and I find the really solid chances are often overbet for the place.

Any comments/feedback would be much appreciated as always. I know partypooper's an unabashed fan of the place bet. There are also a few 1 x 3 or 4 betters out there, Iomaca if I recall correctly? Your input would be well received!

The Schmile

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The Schmile

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